He's playing an unobtrusive role in between the attacking Gerrard and the defensive Masher. He did a decent job of joining the attack and defence together and keeping the tempo up. As for being too lightweight, look at the difference between Ronaldo now and when he first joined the Scum.
Lucas Leiva
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I much prefer it when you see a young player with lots of obvious physical attributes and "raw" skill (ie Babel), than one who is tidy, but ultimately looks to have very little truly special in his locker.
Leiva did nothing more than shuttle possession across the pitch against Inter. He is very uninspiring.
Leiva did nothing more than shuttle possession across the pitch against Inter. He is very uninspiring.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=20922.msg497434#msg497434 date=1203518706]
He's a dud.
Said it about:
- Voronin
- The Gems
- Nunez
- Gonzales .......not to mention a whole host of others.
Leiva wont make the cut.
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Won't make the cut ? This is what Inter supporters thought of him :
Seems like he's already made the cut.
He's a dud.
Said it about:
- Voronin
- The Gems
- Nunez
- Gonzales .......not to mention a whole host of others.
Leiva wont make the cut.
[/quote]
Won't make the cut ? This is what Inter supporters thought of him :
Seems like he's already made the cut.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=20922.msg498248#msg498248 date=1203605694]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=20922.msg497434#msg497434 date=1203518706]
He's a dud.
Said it about:
- Voronin
- The Gems
- Nunez
- Gonzales .......not to mention a whole host of others.
Leiva wont make the cut.
[/quote]
Won't make the cut ? This is what Inter supporters though of him :
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Not that I want to take away from Levias performance, I'm sure the Barcelona fans have said something similar about Sissoko in the past.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=20922.msg497434#msg497434 date=1203518706]
He's a dud.
Said it about:
- Voronin
- The Gems
- Nunez
- Gonzales .......not to mention a whole host of others.
Leiva wont make the cut.
[/quote]
Won't make the cut ? This is what Inter supporters though of him :
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Not that I want to take away from Levias performance, I'm sure the Barcelona fans have said something similar about Sissoko in the past.
unless a midfielder scores goals and has a immediate, massive impact on a game, Brendan will never appreciate them
Lucas will not be scoring goals or grabbing games by the scruff of the neck like Gerrard does, he's only 20 and is still learning, needs to acquire confidence etc. it took Fabregas 3 seasons to score regularly, I reckon Lucas will be fine in a few years and will develop confidence if we stick by him and play him
from what ive seen of Lucas and his games, he already makes forward runs, likes to have a shot (mostly on target and at the keeper), can play good one touch football, these are actually promising signs and sooner or later I believe he will blossom into an 'ace' player
Lucas will not be scoring goals or grabbing games by the scruff of the neck like Gerrard does, he's only 20 and is still learning, needs to acquire confidence etc. it took Fabregas 3 seasons to score regularly, I reckon Lucas will be fine in a few years and will develop confidence if we stick by him and play him
from what ive seen of Lucas and his games, he already makes forward runs, likes to have a shot (mostly on target and at the keeper), can play good one touch football, these are actually promising signs and sooner or later I believe he will blossom into an 'ace' player
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=20922.msg498256#msg498256 date=1203606191]
unless a midfielder scores goals and has a immediate, massive impact on a game, Brendan will never appreciate them
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Which all neatly explains my love of Didi Hamann.
unless a midfielder scores goals and has a immediate, massive impact on a game, Brendan will never appreciate them
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Which all neatly explains my love of Didi Hamann.
Lucas is doing fine as far as I am concerned.
It seems that unless a player looks like an instant world beater he is a 'dud', but it is worth remembering Lucas' age. He's just a fucking kid, and if it's universally held that the likes of Henry and Drogba et al take a season to 'adapt' to the premier league, why isn't a raw talent from a completely different culture afforded the same luxury?
Most have expressed surprise that an experienced talent like Torres adapted so quickly, yet Lucas is rubbish because of his failure to do so, despite minimal involvement? Utter bollocks, to say the least.
God knows, we've had our share of 'stars of the future' who've come in and shown no promise whatsoever, while Lucas at the very least looks like he isn't a calamity in waiting. Whether or not he develops into a world class, or even simply a very good midfielder only time will tell, but there's no shame in looking inferior to Gerrard and Mascherano.
Anything other than a wait-and-see approach is knee-jerking in the extreme.
It seems that unless a player looks like an instant world beater he is a 'dud', but it is worth remembering Lucas' age. He's just a fucking kid, and if it's universally held that the likes of Henry and Drogba et al take a season to 'adapt' to the premier league, why isn't a raw talent from a completely different culture afforded the same luxury?
Most have expressed surprise that an experienced talent like Torres adapted so quickly, yet Lucas is rubbish because of his failure to do so, despite minimal involvement? Utter bollocks, to say the least.
God knows, we've had our share of 'stars of the future' who've come in and shown no promise whatsoever, while Lucas at the very least looks like he isn't a calamity in waiting. Whether or not he develops into a world class, or even simply a very good midfielder only time will tell, but there's no shame in looking inferior to Gerrard and Mascherano.
Anything other than a wait-and-see approach is knee-jerking in the extreme.
[quote author=grumpymonkey link=topic=20922.msg498271#msg498271 date=1203607991]
Most have expressed surprise that an experienced talent like Torres adapted so quickly, yet Lucas is rubbish because of his failure to do so, despite minimal Lucas is doing fine as far as I am concerned.
It seems that unless a player looks like an instant world beater he is a 'dud', but it is worth remembering Lucas' age. He's just a fucking kid, and if it's universally held that the likes of Henry and Drogba et al take a season to 'adapt' to the premier league, why isn't a raw talent from a completely different culture afforded the same luxury?involvement? Utter bollocks, to say the least.
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Of course he is young, and in a new country/ team/ league. And of course he will improve.
But if you'd bothered to read some of the posts before leaping to his defence, you'd find that most people are unsure simply because unlike, say, Drogba (or Henry, or Pires, or Babel) there doesn't appear to be an awful lot of raw material to work with.
He's small, physically weak, slow, and doesn't possess quick feet, a great shot, a super engine, or a great range of passing.
What he is is a decent, somewhat one-paced, sideways passing midfielder.
He may well improve., But he's never going to improve into anything fantastic, because his skills and talents are rather prosaic, and his frame and physique won't ever change that much.
Kidding ourselves that we have a fabulous young talent is wide of the mark. He's no Fabregas. And if Masher stays, what would be the point in Lucas? He can't play in a midfield with Masher, because as a partnership, there's fuck all attacking talent there, so we'd always have to play Gerrard with them for any real drive or goal threat to com efrom CM.
Most have expressed surprise that an experienced talent like Torres adapted so quickly, yet Lucas is rubbish because of his failure to do so, despite minimal Lucas is doing fine as far as I am concerned.
It seems that unless a player looks like an instant world beater he is a 'dud', but it is worth remembering Lucas' age. He's just a fucking kid, and if it's universally held that the likes of Henry and Drogba et al take a season to 'adapt' to the premier league, why isn't a raw talent from a completely different culture afforded the same luxury?involvement? Utter bollocks, to say the least.
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Of course he is young, and in a new country/ team/ league. And of course he will improve.
But if you'd bothered to read some of the posts before leaping to his defence, you'd find that most people are unsure simply because unlike, say, Drogba (or Henry, or Pires, or Babel) there doesn't appear to be an awful lot of raw material to work with.
He's small, physically weak, slow, and doesn't possess quick feet, a great shot, a super engine, or a great range of passing.
What he is is a decent, somewhat one-paced, sideways passing midfielder.
He may well improve., But he's never going to improve into anything fantastic, because his skills and talents are rather prosaic, and his frame and physique won't ever change that much.
Kidding ourselves that we have a fabulous young talent is wide of the mark. He's no Fabregas. And if Masher stays, what would be the point in Lucas? He can't play in a midfield with Masher, because as a partnership, there's fuck all attacking talent there, so we'd always have to play Gerrard with them for any real drive or goal threat to com efrom CM.
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
He started the season as a 20 year old new signing who was in the reserves and as 5th choice central midfielder in the first team. He's now 3rd choice central midfielder. I know im stating facts but surely its been more than any of us expected even if he was coming as Brazilian U-21 captain. Nuff said.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
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Not much of it, at least not when it comes down to Lucas' individual instructions.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
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Not much of it, at least not when it comes down to Lucas' individual instructions.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=20922.msg498301#msg498301 date=1203610446]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
[/quote]
I think that's rather harsh. He gets stuck in and is a good tackler, no fear there, and when he bulks up he won't be pushed off the ball at all. He also has very good technique, able to pull a ball down and keep possession. Maybe I have high hopes for him and watch him a little closer than you do but 90% sideways or backwards ? BS. Did I really imagine him pinging a 50 yarder into the corner and dinking little passes through to Babel ? I must have.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
[/quote]
I think that's rather harsh. He gets stuck in and is a good tackler, no fear there, and when he bulks up he won't be pushed off the ball at all. He also has very good technique, able to pull a ball down and keep possession. Maybe I have high hopes for him and watch him a little closer than you do but 90% sideways or backwards ? BS. Did I really imagine him pinging a 50 yarder into the corner and dinking little passes through to Babel ? I must have.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=20922.msg498282#msg498282 date=1203609583]
[quote author=grumpymonkey link=topic=20922.msg498271#msg498271 date=1203607991]
Most have expressed surprise that an experienced talent like Torres adapted so quickly, yet Lucas is rubbish because of his failure to do so, despite minimal Lucas is doing fine as far as I am concerned.
It seems that unless a player looks like an instant world beater he is a 'dud', but it is worth remembering Lucas' age. He's just a fucking kid, and if it's universally held that the likes of Henry and Drogba et al take a season to 'adapt' to the premier league, why isn't a raw talent from a completely different culture afforded the same luxury?involvement? Utter bollocks, to say the least.
[/quote]
Of course he is young, and in a new country/ team/ league. And of course he will improve.
But if you'd bothered to read some of the posts before leaping to his defence, you'd find that most people are unsure simply because unlike, say, Drogba (or Henry, or Pires, or Babel) there doesn't appear to be an awful lot of raw material to work with.
He's small, physically weak, slow, and doesn't possess quick feet, a great shot, a super engine, or a great range of passing.
What he is is a decent, somewhat one-paced, sideways passing midfielder.
He may well improve., But he's never going to improve into anything fantastic, because his skills and talents are rather prosaic, and his frame and physique won't ever change that much.
Kidding ourselves that we have a fabulous young talent is wide of the mark. He's no Fabregas. And if Masher stays, what would be the point in Lucas? He can't play in a midfield with Masher, because as a partnership, there's fuck all attacking talent there, so we'd always have to play Gerrard with them for any real drive or goal threat to com efrom CM.
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Kidding ourselves that we have a fabulous talent?
And claiming I haven't read the relevant posts?
That's some good selective quoting there Brendan.
[quote author=grumpymonkey link=topic=20922.msg498271#msg498271 date=1203607991]
Most have expressed surprise that an experienced talent like Torres adapted so quickly, yet Lucas is rubbish because of his failure to do so, despite minimal Lucas is doing fine as far as I am concerned.
It seems that unless a player looks like an instant world beater he is a 'dud', but it is worth remembering Lucas' age. He's just a fucking kid, and if it's universally held that the likes of Henry and Drogba et al take a season to 'adapt' to the premier league, why isn't a raw talent from a completely different culture afforded the same luxury?involvement? Utter bollocks, to say the least.
[/quote]
Of course he is young, and in a new country/ team/ league. And of course he will improve.
But if you'd bothered to read some of the posts before leaping to his defence, you'd find that most people are unsure simply because unlike, say, Drogba (or Henry, or Pires, or Babel) there doesn't appear to be an awful lot of raw material to work with.
He's small, physically weak, slow, and doesn't possess quick feet, a great shot, a super engine, or a great range of passing.
What he is is a decent, somewhat one-paced, sideways passing midfielder.
He may well improve., But he's never going to improve into anything fantastic, because his skills and talents are rather prosaic, and his frame and physique won't ever change that much.
Kidding ourselves that we have a fabulous young talent is wide of the mark. He's no Fabregas. And if Masher stays, what would be the point in Lucas? He can't play in a midfield with Masher, because as a partnership, there's fuck all attacking talent there, so we'd always have to play Gerrard with them for any real drive or goal threat to com efrom CM.
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Kidding ourselves that we have a fabulous talent?
And claiming I haven't read the relevant posts?
That's some good selective quoting there Brendan.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=20922.msg498301#msg498301 date=1203610446]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
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I've said before he should shield the ball better or go down like a cheap hoe, but at 20 their is plenty of time to fill out.
going back to lucas' ability to attack I read he was a very attacking player and I've seen little evidence of this so you have to ask yourself were all the people who said this talking out of their arse or is rafa point plank telling him to shield the defense and only break forwards if you are show you can cover if the opposition counter attack.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
[/quote]
I've said before he should shield the ball better or go down like a cheap hoe, but at 20 their is plenty of time to fill out.
going back to lucas' ability to attack I read he was a very attacking player and I've seen little evidence of this so you have to ask yourself were all the people who said this talking out of their arse or is rafa point plank telling him to shield the defense and only break forwards if you are show you can cover if the opposition counter attack.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498325#msg498325 date=1203612962]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=20922.msg498301#msg498301 date=1203610446]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
[/quote]
I've said before he should shield the ball better or go down like a cheap hoe, but at 20 their is plenty of time to fill out.
going back to lucas' ability to attack I read he was a very attacking player and I've seen little evidence of this so you have to ask yourself were all the people who said this talking out of their arse or is rafa point plank telling him to shield the defense and only break forwards if you are show you can cover if the opposition counter attack.
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apart from his shot in the derby which led to a peno, his shot at Chelsea, his goal against Havant, his forward runs against inter milan (if only they gave him the ball), his header against inter milan, hmm I think it's safe to say he's a bit more attacking than Sissoko
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=20922.msg498301#msg498301 date=1203610446]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498289#msg498289 date=1203610064]
I hate placing blame at the managers door but with the obvious exception of gerrard no central midfielder is given the freedown to express themselves, they are expected to do the 'bread and butter' in the middle of the park, I sometimes feel if rafa could curtail gerrard's attacking instincts a little he would.
too many of our team have the shackles on them. is lucas lighting up the prem? obviously not but how much of that is down to instructions, bogged down with defensive duties.
[/quote]
He's not instructed to get pushed off the ball easily and direct 90% of his passes sideways or backwards though, is he?
[/quote]
I've said before he should shield the ball better or go down like a cheap hoe, but at 20 their is plenty of time to fill out.
going back to lucas' ability to attack I read he was a very attacking player and I've seen little evidence of this so you have to ask yourself were all the people who said this talking out of their arse or is rafa point plank telling him to shield the defense and only break forwards if you are show you can cover if the opposition counter attack.
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apart from his shot in the derby which led to a peno, his shot at Chelsea, his goal against Havant, his forward runs against inter milan (if only they gave him the ball), his header against inter milan, hmm I think it's safe to say he's a bit more attacking than Sissoko
But Sissoko did attack... he just wasn't very good at it.
Do you have any fucking idea how desperate and unintentionally amusing that post is?
No, I doubt it. You never fucking do.
sometimes we as fans need to put ourselves in the manager's shoes and think about how we'd handle young talent, do send them out there and tell them to enjoy themselves go at the opposition with no fear, or do you instruct them on the basics of the game first.
is rafa's use of lucas for his benifit, teaching him the basics of the game, the defensive side before giving him the freedom to express himself in an attacking sense? I often wonder about this, suppose you send a young player out with instructions to go at the opposition from the off and that young player makes mispasses and hits shots into row z and the crowd get on his back, what will that do to his confidence long term?
is rafa's use of lucas for his benifit, teaching him the basics of the game, the defensive side before giving him the freedom to express himself in an attacking sense? I often wonder about this, suppose you send a young player out with instructions to go at the opposition from the off and that young player makes mispasses and hits shots into row z and the crowd get on his back, what will that do to his confidence long term?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=20922.msg498282#msg498282 date=1203609583]
He's small, physically weak, slow, and doesn't possess quick feet, a great shot, a super engine, or a great range of passing.
What he is is a decent, somewhat one-paced, sideways passing midfielder.
He may well improve., But he's never going to improve into anything fantastic, because his skills and talents are rather prosaic, and his frame and physique won't ever change that much.
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'kinell Bren, that is all rather harsh , even for you.
He is not exactly in the SWP league as far as physique goes. He must be over five foot ten, and is nowhere near as wimpy as you are painting him.
From what I have seen of the lad, he is actually quite good, not great at the moment, but quite good. Mobile, gets into good positions, has good feet, rarely gives the ball away cheaply and supports the rest of the team , the way he is clearly meant to.
He is head and shoulders above some of the young hopes I have seen vaunted from time to time.
It is very early days for the lad and far far to early to be making such sweeping comments about a young lad he is only just 20.
regards
regards
He's small, physically weak, slow, and doesn't possess quick feet, a great shot, a super engine, or a great range of passing.
What he is is a decent, somewhat one-paced, sideways passing midfielder.
He may well improve., But he's never going to improve into anything fantastic, because his skills and talents are rather prosaic, and his frame and physique won't ever change that much.
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'kinell Bren, that is all rather harsh , even for you.
He is not exactly in the SWP league as far as physique goes. He must be over five foot ten, and is nowhere near as wimpy as you are painting him.
From what I have seen of the lad, he is actually quite good, not great at the moment, but quite good. Mobile, gets into good positions, has good feet, rarely gives the ball away cheaply and supports the rest of the team , the way he is clearly meant to.
He is head and shoulders above some of the young hopes I have seen vaunted from time to time.
It is very early days for the lad and far far to early to be making such sweeping comments about a young lad he is only just 20.
regards
regards
Certainly doesn't look like a player that can only pass sideways or backwards to me.
He's just playing a very disciplined game right now. Like Gerrard does for England when he plays with Lampard.
Some lovely passes here:
From around 00:40.
[flash=425,355]http://www.youtube.com/v/ArqQo0EY77c&rel=1[/flash]
He's just playing a very disciplined game right now. Like Gerrard does for England when he plays with Lampard.
Some lovely passes here:
From around 00:40.
[flash=425,355]http://www.youtube.com/v/ArqQo0EY77c&rel=1[/flash]
Lets not forget he won us the Derby..
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=20922.msg497240#msg497240 date=1203505353]
Is anyone else worried that he's just looking distinctly average?
I thought last night would have suited him as he'd have more time on the ball, etc, but again he was largely anonymous.
I know it's his first season in a different continent, etc and many times they come on in their second season, but he doesn't seem to have enough in his locker to go on to that next level at the moment.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Key thing is that we DON'T need to rely on him at this point. We have Xabi, SG and El Jefecito ahead of him so we can use the next season or so to bed him in and get him up to the level he showed @ gremio.
Is anyone else worried that he's just looking distinctly average?
I thought last night would have suited him as he'd have more time on the ball, etc, but again he was largely anonymous.
I know it's his first season in a different continent, etc and many times they come on in their second season, but he doesn't seem to have enough in his locker to go on to that next level at the moment.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Key thing is that we DON'T need to rely on him at this point. We have Xabi, SG and El Jefecito ahead of him so we can use the next season or so to bed him in and get him up to the level he showed @ gremio.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=20922.msg498336#msg498336 date=1203614721]
sometimes we as fans need to put ourselves in the manager's shoes and think about how we'd handle young talent, do send them out there and tell them to enjoy themselves go at the opposition with no fear, or do you instruct them on the basics of the game first.
is rafa's use of lucas for his benifit, teaching him the basics of the game, the defensive side before giving him the freedom to express himself in an attacking sense? I often wonder about this, suppose you send a young player out with instructions to go at the opposition from the off and that young player makes mispasses and hits shots into row z and the crowd get on his back, what will that do to his confidence long term?
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If I was the manager handling a young talent in the Premiership, I'd play him out of position to really do his confidence a world of good. Stick him out wide left for a game against Sunderland or something.
sometimes we as fans need to put ourselves in the manager's shoes and think about how we'd handle young talent, do send them out there and tell them to enjoy themselves go at the opposition with no fear, or do you instruct them on the basics of the game first.
is rafa's use of lucas for his benifit, teaching him the basics of the game, the defensive side before giving him the freedom to express himself in an attacking sense? I often wonder about this, suppose you send a young player out with instructions to go at the opposition from the off and that young player makes mispasses and hits shots into row z and the crowd get on his back, what will that do to his confidence long term?
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If I was the manager handling a young talent in the Premiership, I'd play him out of position to really do his confidence a world of good. Stick him out wide left for a game against Sunderland or something.
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I thought he was piss poor today. His touch looked like a drunk Kuyt. Reminded me of Biscan.
I realise he's still young and learning, but Xabi - please don't go!
I realise he's still young and learning, but Xabi - please don't go!
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