HT: Well, if you ignore the scoreline, I'd say that's probably our worst performance of the season so far. We're riding our luck, but if we keep giving Everton that much space and time and defending that deep, they will score eventually. Change something, Rafa!
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Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
Lucas is a fucking pitiful spaz, Trufax
[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=37511.msg1001375#msg1001375 date=1259504419]
Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
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Hopefully after 60 mins. Think we will see Riera and Yossi is a cert later on.
Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
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Hopefully after 60 mins. Think we will see Riera and Yossi is a cert later on.
Well, delighted with the scoreline under the circumstances but it's all very reminiscent of the 2nd half against City - we score and then see the midfield 30 yards from the defence for half an hour with N'Gog horribly isolated up front. And given the fact that we are losing almost everything in the air, that is a horrible way to be set up.... we'll end up conceding.
I know everyone has banged on about the defence, but this midfield is killing us. In all of Rafa's time here, I've never seen a midfield so incapable of 'controlling' a game. Yes, it's the derby but it's just something we see game after game.
I really hope we can pick things up in the next half and at the very least, get a few passing moves going. We'll need to score at least one more.
I know everyone has banged on about the defence, but this midfield is killing us. In all of Rafa's time here, I've never seen a midfield so incapable of 'controlling' a game. Yes, it's the derby but it's just something we see game after game.
I really hope we can pick things up in the next half and at the very least, get a few passing moves going. We'll need to score at least one more.
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37511.msg1001377#msg1001377 date=1259504458]
First half ratings:
Reina - 6
Carragher - 7
Agger - 6
Johnson - 6
Insua - 6
Mascherano - 7
Lucas - 6
Kuyt - 6
Aurelio - 6
Gerrard - 4
N'Gog - 6
A pretty average half so far to be honest.
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Average? We were fucking awful.
And if Gerrard isn't fit, and Aquilani is, why is Gerrard playing and Aquilani on the bench?
First half ratings:
Reina - 6
Carragher - 7
Agger - 6
Johnson - 6
Insua - 6
Mascherano - 7
Lucas - 6
Kuyt - 6
Aurelio - 6
Gerrard - 4
N'Gog - 6
A pretty average half so far to be honest.
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Average? We were fucking awful.
And if Gerrard isn't fit, and Aquilani is, why is Gerrard playing and Aquilani on the bench?
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=37511.msg1001379#msg1001379 date=1259504522]
[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=37511.msg1001375#msg1001375 date=1259504419]
Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
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Hopefully after 60 mins. Think we will see Riera and Yossi is a cert later on.
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Riera for Aurelio and Benayoun for Gerrard at half time pretty please.
[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=37511.msg1001375#msg1001375 date=1259504419]
Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
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Hopefully after 60 mins. Think we will see Riera and Yossi is a cert later on.
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Riera for Aurelio and Benayoun for Gerrard at half time pretty please.
[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=37511.msg1001375#msg1001375 date=1259504419]
Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
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if he'd played more games before now yes. i think he'll come on and be off the pace after sitting idle for a month. rafa will use that in his own mind to convince himself that lucas is a superior player. and we'll go on with him until that guy from raiders of the lost ark can take care of it
Fellaini is running roughshod over Lucas. Aquilani, injured or not, can surely put up a better fight than Lucas, right?
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if he'd played more games before now yes. i think he'll come on and be off the pace after sitting idle for a month. rafa will use that in his own mind to convince himself that lucas is a superior player. and we'll go on with him until that guy from raiders of the lost ark can take care of it
Please bring on Aqualani Rafa.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
Yeah for all Rafas love of controlling the game this side is not very good at it. There is a massive hole in midfield.
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=37511.msg1001382#msg1001382 date=1259504582]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37511.msg1001317#msg1001317 date=1259503295]
Gerrard has been disgraceful so far.
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you know gerrard is having an off day when lucas is mentioned more than him.this is the derby game wake up gerrard .
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I don't think it's a matter of getting into the game or "waking up", just look at him, he looks nowhere near fit. He's jogging around slowly and aimlessly and looks like he came off an injury last night. He shouldn't be playing.
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37511.msg1001317#msg1001317 date=1259503295]
Gerrard has been disgraceful so far.
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you know gerrard is having an off day when lucas is mentioned more than him.this is the derby game wake up gerrard .
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I don't think it's a matter of getting into the game or "waking up", just look at him, he looks nowhere near fit. He's jogging around slowly and aimlessly and looks like he came off an injury last night. He shouldn't be playing.
I'd take another shite half, a jammy deflection, and a 0-2 please.
Or, you know, demonstrate quality, I don't fucking care.
Or, you know, demonstrate quality, I don't fucking care.
I think Aquilani will be on after HT.
Not sure about The Alonso-shape, but it's a cunt-shape at the moment
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37511.msg1001389#msg1001389 date=1259504792]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37511.msg1001387#msg1001387 date=1259504735]
Yeah for all Rafas love of controlling the game this side is not very good at it. There is a massive hole in midfield.
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Alonso shaped?
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Who's he? No, it needs cooler heads and better decisions. Even Lucas can do that. They have to THINK.
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37511.msg1001387#msg1001387 date=1259504735]
Yeah for all Rafas love of controlling the game this side is not very good at it. There is a massive hole in midfield.
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Alonso shaped?
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Who's he? No, it needs cooler heads and better decisions. Even Lucas can do that. They have to THINK.
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=37511.msg1001388#msg1001388 date=1259504791]
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=37511.msg1001382#msg1001382 date=1259504582]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37511.msg1001317#msg1001317 date=1259503295]
Gerrard has been disgraceful so far.
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you know gerrard is having an off day when lucas is mentioned more than him.this is the derby game wake up gerrard .
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I don't think it's a matter of getting into the game or "waking up", just look at him, he looks nowhere near fit. He's jogging around slowly and aimlessly and looks like he came off an injury last night. He shouldn't be playing.
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This is what ? His 3rd game back ? He shoudl be showing a lot more than this.
[quote author=aquaman4 link=topic=37511.msg1001382#msg1001382 date=1259504582]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37511.msg1001317#msg1001317 date=1259503295]
Gerrard has been disgraceful so far.
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you know gerrard is having an off day when lucas is mentioned more than him.this is the derby game wake up gerrard .
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I don't think it's a matter of getting into the game or "waking up", just look at him, he looks nowhere near fit. He's jogging around slowly and aimlessly and looks like he came off an injury last night. He shouldn't be playing.
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This is what ? His 3rd game back ? He shoudl be showing a lot more than this.
Lucas is a massive hole.
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=37511.msg1001391#msg1001391 date=1259504959]
I think Aquilani will be on after HT.
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Never seen rafa make a sub at HT unless there's an injury.
I think Aquilani will be on after HT.
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Never seen rafa make a sub at HT unless there's an injury.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37511.msg1001396#msg1001396 date=1259505056]
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
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We ARE much smaller than probably any time in the last 10 years. Insua, Lucas, Masherano - not a lot of height to help out at the back.
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
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We ARE much smaller than probably any time in the last 10 years. Insua, Lucas, Masherano - not a lot of height to help out at the back.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37511.msg1001396#msg1001396 date=1259505056]
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
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I went to see Liverpool away to City, I think in 2005/6, and my mate couldn't believe the size of our team - we've towered over them. Now, yeah, we're pretty rubbish in the air... Masher and Lucas are incapble of winning aerial battles and there is no presence to back them up in defence either.
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
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I went to see Liverpool away to City, I think in 2005/6, and my mate couldn't believe the size of our team - we've towered over them. Now, yeah, we're pretty rubbish in the air... Masher and Lucas are incapble of winning aerial battles and there is no presence to back them up in defence either.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37511.msg1001396#msg1001396 date=1259505056]
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
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Haha yes i was thinking what I wouldnt give to have a 28 year old sami in the heart of defence he would brush Fellani and Jo off like children.
I dont think I've ever seen a team so dominated in the air. Are we a team of dwarves?
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Haha yes i was thinking what I wouldnt give to have a 28 year old sami in the heart of defence he would brush Fellani and Jo off like children.
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