It's a bit more complicated than that Stu, you need to actually find the picture you're thinking of and copy the url, then past it in with [img ] [/img ] on either side of it.
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[quote author=Niall K link=topic=46714.msg1393140#msg1393140 date=1314907322]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46714.msg1393086#msg1393086 date=1314896807]
Will people STFU about Carroll's fee? We didn't pay it, Chavski did, the deal was always £5M and buy us a striker.
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Fuckers could have bought us a good one at least
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keep telling yourself that.
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46714.msg1393086#msg1393086 date=1314896807]
Will people STFU about Carroll's fee? We didn't pay it, Chavski did, the deal was always £5M and buy us a striker.
[/quote]
Fuckers could have bought us a good one at least
[/quote]
keep telling yourself that.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46714.msg1393161#msg1393161 date=1314910101]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=46714.msg1393140#msg1393140 date=1314907322]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46714.msg1393086#msg1393086 date=1314896807]
Will people STFU about Carroll's fee? We didn't pay it, Chavski did, the deal was always £5M and buy us a striker.
[/quote]
Fuckers could have bought us a good one at least
[/quote]
keep telling yourself that.
[/quote]
Telling myself what ?
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=46714.msg1393140#msg1393140 date=1314907322]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46714.msg1393086#msg1393086 date=1314896807]
Will people STFU about Carroll's fee? We didn't pay it, Chavski did, the deal was always £5M and buy us a striker.
[/quote]
Fuckers could have bought us a good one at least
[/quote]
keep telling yourself that.
[/quote]
Telling myself what ?
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46714.msg1393160#msg1393160 date=1314909898]
It's a bit more complicated than that Stu, you need to actually find the picture you're thinking of and copy the url, then past it in with [img ] [/img ] on either side of it.
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haha
It's a bit more complicated than that Stu, you need to actually find the picture you're thinking of and copy the url, then past it in with [img ] [/img ] on either side of it.
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haha
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=46714.msg1393162#msg1393162 date=1314910317]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46714.msg1393161#msg1393161 date=1314910101]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=46714.msg1393140#msg1393140 date=1314907322]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46714.msg1393086#msg1393086 date=1314896807]
Will people STFU about Carroll's fee? We didn't pay it, Chavski did, the deal was always £5M and buy us a striker.
[/quote]
Fuckers could have bought us a good one at least
[/quote]
keep telling yourself that.
[/quote]
Telling myself what ?
[/quote]not you
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46714.msg1393161#msg1393161 date=1314910101]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=46714.msg1393140#msg1393140 date=1314907322]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=46714.msg1393086#msg1393086 date=1314896807]
Will people STFU about Carroll's fee? We didn't pay it, Chavski did, the deal was always £5M and buy us a striker.
[/quote]
Fuckers could have bought us a good one at least
[/quote]
keep telling yourself that.
[/quote]
Telling myself what ?
[/quote]not you
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46714.msg1393160#msg1393160 date=1314909898]
It's a bit more complicated than that Stu, you need to actually find the picture you're thinking of and copy the url, then past it in with [img ] [/img ] on either side of it.
[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's a bit more complicated than that Stu, you need to actually find the picture you're thinking of and copy the url, then past it in with [img ] [/img ] on either side of it.
[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good man Gene, made me laugh there.
As i just posted...
So we trimmed 30m from the wage bill and added 13 according to Telegraph. So we saved 17.
On transfers We spent 107 since fsg came in and recouped 78 ? So we spent 29 rebuilding the club minus 17 we saved in salaries = 12m cost to rebuild the club? Astonishing bit of business management if true..
So we trimmed 30m from the wage bill and added 13 according to Telegraph. So we saved 17.
On transfers We spent 107 since fsg came in and recouped 78 ? So we spent 29 rebuilding the club minus 17 we saved in salaries = 12m cost to rebuild the club? Astonishing bit of business management if true..
I don't think those figures include the pay off fees for the likes of jova, degan, el zhar poulsen etc
I don't believe the wage bills include the 60% we are giving towards cole wages n probably still paying aqua something.
That's at least 5 million there. If we make the champions league next season and have a similar spend to this summer and not needing to pay compensation etc or paying for wages of players on loan it should be a big spend on a few players.
I don't believe the wage bills include the 60% we are giving towards cole wages n probably still paying aqua something.
That's at least 5 million there. If we make the champions league next season and have a similar spend to this summer and not needing to pay compensation etc or paying for wages of players on loan it should be a big spend on a few players.
It would be interesting to see if we paid up Nova and Poulsens wages . I am not sure we did , I think we would have just let them go on a free. Regan I think we just paid him off and released him.
Regards
Regards
[quote author=Atlas link=topic=46714.msg1393226#msg1393226 date=1314943018]
I don't think those figures include the pay off fees for the likes of jova, degan, el zhar poulsen etc
I don't believe the wage bills include the 60% we are giving towards cole wages n probably still paying aqua something.
That's at least 5 million there. If we make the champions league next season and have a similar spend to this summer and not needing to pay compensation etc or paying for wages of players on loan it should be a big spend on a few players.
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Yes, I doubt it was cheap getting rid of the shit we had.
I don't think those figures include the pay off fees for the likes of jova, degan, el zhar poulsen etc
I don't believe the wage bills include the 60% we are giving towards cole wages n probably still paying aqua something.
That's at least 5 million there. If we make the champions league next season and have a similar spend to this summer and not needing to pay compensation etc or paying for wages of players on loan it should be a big spend on a few players.
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Yes, I doubt it was cheap getting rid of the shit we had.
[quote author=localny link=topic=46714.msg1393220#msg1393220 date=1314937196]
As i just posted...
So we trimmed 30m from the wage bill and added 13 according to Telegraph. So we saved 17.
On transfers We spent 107 since fsg came in and recouped 78 ? So we spent 29 rebuilding the club minus 17 we saved in salaries = 12m cost to rebuild the club? Astonishing bit of business management if true..
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13 seems a bit low.
Especially when Henderson's supposed to be on around 60k. Downing (from what I recall) was upwards of that amount.
Adams, Enrique and Bellamy can't be far off that.
Then still Doni and Coates.
Plus I'm sure we're still paying part of Cole's wages for the year.
As i just posted...
So we trimmed 30m from the wage bill and added 13 according to Telegraph. So we saved 17.
On transfers We spent 107 since fsg came in and recouped 78 ? So we spent 29 rebuilding the club minus 17 we saved in salaries = 12m cost to rebuild the club? Astonishing bit of business management if true..
[/quote]
13 seems a bit low.
Especially when Henderson's supposed to be on around 60k. Downing (from what I recall) was upwards of that amount.
Adams, Enrique and Bellamy can't be far off that.
Then still Doni and Coates.
Plus I'm sure we're still paying part of Cole's wages for the year.
[quote author=Atlas link=topic=46714.msg1393226#msg1393226 date=1314943018]
I don't think those figures include the pay off fees for the likes of jova, degan, el zhar poulsen etc
I don't believe the wage bills include the 60% we are giving towards cole wages n probably still paying aqua something.
That's at least 5 million there. If we make the champions league next season and have a similar spend to this summer and not needing to pay compensation etc or paying for wages of players on loan it should be a big spend on a few players.
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Still seems like a bargain whichever way you look at it
regards
I don't think those figures include the pay off fees for the likes of jova, degan, el zhar poulsen etc
I don't believe the wage bills include the 60% we are giving towards cole wages n probably still paying aqua something.
That's at least 5 million there. If we make the champions league next season and have a similar spend to this summer and not needing to pay compensation etc or paying for wages of players on loan it should be a big spend on a few players.
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Still seems like a bargain whichever way you look at it
regards
As asim noted, making it into the champions league proper will have a big impact on our spending.
Being in the champions league and benefitting from the ££ associated with it would most likely also see an influx in 'exciting' players joining us.
It's alright saying to a player that the club is going places but when you've finished 6th the season just gone, it's fair to say top players might have reservations.
Chelsea and Nailed on cl and possible silverware or Liverpool with possible silverware and possible cl?
Being in the champions league and benefitting from the ££ associated with it would most likely also see an influx in 'exciting' players joining us.
It's alright saying to a player that the club is going places but when you've finished 6th the season just gone, it's fair to say top players might have reservations.
Chelsea and Nailed on cl and possible silverware or Liverpool with possible silverware and possible cl?
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=46714.msg1393268#msg1393268 date=1314953746]
As asim noted, making it into the champions league proper will have a big impact on our spending.
Being in the champions league and benefitting from the ££ associated with it would most likely also see an influx in 'exciting' players joining us.
It's alright saying to a player that the club is going places but when you've finished 6th the season just gone, it's fair to say top players might have reservations.
Chelsea and Nailed on cl and possible silverware or Liverpool with possible silverware and possible cl?
[/quote]
Indeed and then Ming won't seem quite so
regards
As asim noted, making it into the champions league proper will have a big impact on our spending.
Being in the champions league and benefitting from the ££ associated with it would most likely also see an influx in 'exciting' players joining us.
It's alright saying to a player that the club is going places but when you've finished 6th the season just gone, it's fair to say top players might have reservations.
Chelsea and Nailed on cl and possible silverware or Liverpool with possible silverware and possible cl?
[/quote]
Indeed and then Ming won't seem quite so
regards
By Rory Smith10:00PM BST 01 Sep 201114 Comments
Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli, at the behest of the club's owners, have ushered 19 players out of Liverpool's doors. The final two, Raul Meireles and Philipp Degen, departed with just minutes of the transfer window to spare. The past is finished. Let the future begin.
Fourteen players have been sold or released, and a further five dismissed temporarily, on loan, most notably Joe Cole and Alberto Aquilani.
An astounding £30 million has been wiped from the wage chitty, and a little over £20 million raised in funds.
The phrase "trimming of the squad" does not quite fit; this has been all-out attack on the errors of the past. Only Brad Jones and Danny Wilson remain of Roy Hodgson's signings, and only three of the 14 signed by Rafael Benítez in his final two years at the club. Less than a year after the putsch which brought Fenway Sports Group to Anfield, Liverpool have undergone a second Night of the Long Knives. This one, though, has lasted all summer.
Some were rather more willing than others to stand aside. Paul Konchesky accepted a wage cut to join Leicester. Nabil El Zhar, Emiliano Insua, Milan Jovanovic and, eventually, Degen agreed to cancel their contracts, albeit for lucrative settlements.
Liverpool will continue to pay for the mistakes that have gone before. Lille insist Liverpool will continue to supply 60 per cent of Cole's £80,000-a-week wages, meaning Anfield's finances will be drained to the tune of £2.5 million for a season in which the 29 year-old plays in France.
Christian Poulsen’s move to Evian has been subsidised, too, but that is rather the point: FSG see their glass as half-full, not half-empty. At least the £2.5 million paid to Cole while he is in France is a saving of £1.65 million. That is the ruthlessness that has pervaded Liverpool’s summer.
FSG were determined to build a more cost-effective squad, and were prepared to withstand the short-term financial cost to do so. Hence their decision to spend big and spend early, regardless of the knock-on effects later in the summer.
"The owners were happy to take risks and happy for us to spend money," reflected Comolli. "A lot of owners would have said the squad is too big, so you need to reduce, and then when you have done that, bring some players in, but that was never the approach. I told them we would need to buy first and they were very, very brave to accept that."
Nowhere was that cut-throat approach better witnessed than with Meireles. The Portuguese was not desperate to leave Anfield, but was left with no choice after seeing Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam recruited in midfield and a promise to augment his £35,000-a-week wage, should his first season be a success, broken.
Discussions over a pay rise never started. In the end, he had to hand in a transfer request and forego a loyalty payment to smooth his escape to Chelsea.
Few Liverpool fans would have sold Meireles, particularly not to a bitter foe and especially not for £12 million, roughly what Hodgson paid for the Portugal international last summer. That is the measure of the new Liverpool, though. Those who are not required will be cast aside. Dalglish wants only those soldiers he deems necessary; a bloated squadron is a cumbersome one.
"For me, the players they have signed have largely been British, which takes me back to when I started watching Liverpool," said Craig Bellamy, the final piece of incoming business carried out by Dalglish. "It looks so familiar to me, so to be part of it is such a huge honour."
Dalglish has built the squad he wanted: young, energetic, mostly home-grown, and with a passion for the club – but it fits FSG's vision, too. The squad is streamlined – 22 senior players, supported by youth – with this summer's six signings, Bellamy apart, earning a combined, and relatively modest, £13 million-a-season in wages.
That is a saving of £17 million-a-season. FSG are no asset-strippers, though. They have spent £114 million on players in eight months, plus wages, with £75 million regained in transfer fees. This is not a rerun of Liverpool's recent past. This is the start of the future.
Key Anfield departures: Raul Meireles (Chelsea) £12m, David Ngog (Bolton Wanderers) £4m, Paul Konchesky (Leicester City) £1.5m, Daniel Ayala (Norwich City) £800,000, Gerardo Bruna (Blackpool) £750,000,Joe Cole (Lille) loan, Emiliano Insua (Sporting Lisbon) undisclosed, Chris Mavinga (Rennes) undisclosed, Sotirios Kyrgiakos (Wolfsburg) undisclosed, Christian Poulsen (Evian) undisclosed, Alberto Aquilani (AC Milan) undisclosed, Milan Jovanovic (Anderlecht) undisclosed, Tom Ince (Blackpool) undisclosed, Nabil El Zhar (Levante) undisclosed.
Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli, at the behest of the club's owners, have ushered 19 players out of Liverpool's doors. The final two, Raul Meireles and Philipp Degen, departed with just minutes of the transfer window to spare. The past is finished. Let the future begin.
Fourteen players have been sold or released, and a further five dismissed temporarily, on loan, most notably Joe Cole and Alberto Aquilani.
An astounding £30 million has been wiped from the wage chitty, and a little over £20 million raised in funds.
The phrase "trimming of the squad" does not quite fit; this has been all-out attack on the errors of the past. Only Brad Jones and Danny Wilson remain of Roy Hodgson's signings, and only three of the 14 signed by Rafael Benítez in his final two years at the club. Less than a year after the putsch which brought Fenway Sports Group to Anfield, Liverpool have undergone a second Night of the Long Knives. This one, though, has lasted all summer.
Some were rather more willing than others to stand aside. Paul Konchesky accepted a wage cut to join Leicester. Nabil El Zhar, Emiliano Insua, Milan Jovanovic and, eventually, Degen agreed to cancel their contracts, albeit for lucrative settlements.
Liverpool will continue to pay for the mistakes that have gone before. Lille insist Liverpool will continue to supply 60 per cent of Cole's £80,000-a-week wages, meaning Anfield's finances will be drained to the tune of £2.5 million for a season in which the 29 year-old plays in France.
Christian Poulsen’s move to Evian has been subsidised, too, but that is rather the point: FSG see their glass as half-full, not half-empty. At least the £2.5 million paid to Cole while he is in France is a saving of £1.65 million. That is the ruthlessness that has pervaded Liverpool’s summer.
FSG were determined to build a more cost-effective squad, and were prepared to withstand the short-term financial cost to do so. Hence their decision to spend big and spend early, regardless of the knock-on effects later in the summer.
"The owners were happy to take risks and happy for us to spend money," reflected Comolli. "A lot of owners would have said the squad is too big, so you need to reduce, and then when you have done that, bring some players in, but that was never the approach. I told them we would need to buy first and they were very, very brave to accept that."
Nowhere was that cut-throat approach better witnessed than with Meireles. The Portuguese was not desperate to leave Anfield, but was left with no choice after seeing Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam recruited in midfield and a promise to augment his £35,000-a-week wage, should his first season be a success, broken.
Discussions over a pay rise never started. In the end, he had to hand in a transfer request and forego a loyalty payment to smooth his escape to Chelsea.
Few Liverpool fans would have sold Meireles, particularly not to a bitter foe and especially not for £12 million, roughly what Hodgson paid for the Portugal international last summer. That is the measure of the new Liverpool, though. Those who are not required will be cast aside. Dalglish wants only those soldiers he deems necessary; a bloated squadron is a cumbersome one.
"For me, the players they have signed have largely been British, which takes me back to when I started watching Liverpool," said Craig Bellamy, the final piece of incoming business carried out by Dalglish. "It looks so familiar to me, so to be part of it is such a huge honour."
Dalglish has built the squad he wanted: young, energetic, mostly home-grown, and with a passion for the club – but it fits FSG's vision, too. The squad is streamlined – 22 senior players, supported by youth – with this summer's six signings, Bellamy apart, earning a combined, and relatively modest, £13 million-a-season in wages.
That is a saving of £17 million-a-season. FSG are no asset-strippers, though. They have spent £114 million on players in eight months, plus wages, with £75 million regained in transfer fees. This is not a rerun of Liverpool's recent past. This is the start of the future.
Key Anfield departures: Raul Meireles (Chelsea) £12m, David Ngog (Bolton Wanderers) £4m, Paul Konchesky (Leicester City) £1.5m, Daniel Ayala (Norwich City) £800,000, Gerardo Bruna (Blackpool) £750,000,Joe Cole (Lille) loan, Emiliano Insua (Sporting Lisbon) undisclosed, Chris Mavinga (Rennes) undisclosed, Sotirios Kyrgiakos (Wolfsburg) undisclosed, Christian Poulsen (Evian) undisclosed, Alberto Aquilani (AC Milan) undisclosed, Milan Jovanovic (Anderlecht) undisclosed, Tom Ince (Blackpool) undisclosed, Nabil El Zhar (Levante) undisclosed.
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=46714.msg1392923#msg1392923 date=1314885258]
I know I'm meandering, but can any other team put out a better British XI than us? I think this team could beat most (although it is about the 5th choice keeper) and doesn't even include Wilson or Robinson:
-----------------------Belford----------------------
Flanaghan-----Kelly---Carragher---Johnson
Henderson----Gerrard--Adam-------Downing
-----------------Bellamy----Carroll---------------
...Editted coz I forgot about Glenjo!
[/quote]
Debatable
--------------------Amos--------------------
Smalling---Ferdinand---Evans---Jones
Fletcher---Cleverly---Carrick----Young
-----------Welbeck--- Rooney-----------
sub - Cunt Owen
I know I'm meandering, but can any other team put out a better British XI than us? I think this team could beat most (although it is about the 5th choice keeper) and doesn't even include Wilson or Robinson:
-----------------------Belford----------------------
Flanaghan-----Kelly---Carragher---Johnson
Henderson----Gerrard--Adam-------Downing
-----------------Bellamy----Carroll---------------
...Editted coz I forgot about Glenjo!
[/quote]
Debatable
--------------------Amos--------------------
Smalling---Ferdinand---Evans---Jones
Fletcher---Cleverly---Carrick----Young
-----------Welbeck--- Rooney-----------
sub - Cunt Owen
[quote author=localny link=topic=46714.msg1393220#msg1393220 date=1314937196]
As i just posted...
So we trimmed 30m from the wage bill and added 13 according to Telegraph. So we saved 17.
On transfers We spent 107 since fsg came in and recouped 78 ? So we spent 29 rebuilding the club minus 17 we saved in salaries = 12m cost to rebuild the club? Astonishing bit of business management if true..
[/quote]
Beat me to it this is the full article.... delighted we´ve done so well, although still pissed off we sold Ming.
Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli, at the behest of the club's owners, have ushered 19 players out of Liverpool's doors. The final two, Raul Meireles and Philipp Degen, departed with just minutes of the transfer window to spare. The past is finished. Let the future begin.
Fourteen players have been sold or released, and a further five dismissed temporarily, on loan, most notably Joe Cole and Alberto Aquilani.
An astounding £30 million has been wiped from the wage chitty, and a little over £20 million raised in funds.
The phrase "trimming of the squad" does not quite fit; this has been all-out attack on the errors of the past. Only Brad Jones and Danny Wilson remain of Roy Hodgson's signings, and only three of the 14 signed by Rafael Benítez in his final two years at the club. Less than a year after the putsch which brought Fenway Sports Group to Anfield, Liverpool have undergone a second Night of the Long Knives. This one, though, has lasted all summer.
Some were rather more willing than others to stand aside. Paul Konchesky accepted a wage cut to join Leicester. Nabil El Zhar, Emiliano Insua, Milan Jovanovic and, eventually, Degen agreed to cancel their contracts, albeit for lucrative settlements.
Related Articles
Liverpool will continue to pay for the mistakes that have gone before. Lille insist Liverpool will continue to supply 60 per cent of Cole's £80,000-a-week wages, meaning Anfield's finances will be drained to the tune of £2.5 million for a season in which the 29 year-old plays in France.
Christian Poulsen’s move to Evian has been subsidised, too, but that is rather the point: FSG see their glass as half-full, not half-empty. At least the £2.5 million paid to Cole while he is in France is a saving of £1.65 million. That is the ruthlessness that has pervaded Liverpool’s summer.
FSG were determined to build a more cost-effective squad, and were prepared to withstand the short-term financial cost to do so. Hence their decision to spend big and spend early, regardless of the knock-on effects later in the summer.
"The owners were happy to take risks and happy for us to spend money," reflected Comolli. "A lot of owners would have said the squad is too big, so you need to reduce, and then when you have done that, bring some players in, but that was never the approach. I told them we would need to buy first and they were very, very brave to accept that."
Nowhere was that cut-throat approach better witnessed than with Meireles. The Portuguese was not desperate to leave Anfield, but was left with no choice after seeing Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam recruited in midfield and a promise to augment his £35,000-a-week wage, should his first season be a success, broken.
Discussions over a pay rise never started. In the end, he had to hand in a transfer request and forego a loyalty payment to smooth his escape to Chelsea.
Few Liverpool fans would have sold Meireles, particularly not to a bitter foe and especially not for £12 million, roughly what Hodgson paid for the Portugal international last summer. That is the measure of the new Liverpool, though. Those who are not required will be cast aside. Dalglish wants only those soldiers he deems necessary; a bloated squadron is a cumbersome one.
"For me, the players they have signed have largely been British, which takes me back to when I started watching Liverpool," said Craig Bellamy, the final piece of incoming business carried out by Dalglish. "It looks so familiar to me, so to be part of it is such a huge honour."
Dalglish has built the squad he wanted: young, energetic, mostly home-grown, and with a passion for the club – but it fits FSG's vision, too. The squad is streamlined – 22 senior players, supported by youth – with this summer's six signings, Bellamy apart, earning a combined, and relatively modest, £13 million-a-season in wages.
That is a saving of £17 million-a-season. FSG are no asset-strippers, though. They have spent £114 million on players in eight months, plus wages, with £75 million regained in transfer fees. This is not a rerun of Liverpool's recent past. This is the start of the future.
Key Anfield departures: Raul Meireles (Chelsea) £12m, David Ngog (Bolton Wanderers) £4m, Paul Konchesky (Leicester City) £1.5m, Daniel Ayala (Norwich City) £800,000, Gerardo Bruna (Blackpool) £750,000,Joe Cole (Lille) loan, Emiliano Insua (Sporting Lisbon) undisclosed, Chris Mavinga (Rennes) undisclosed, Sotirios Kyrgiakos (Wolfsburg) undisclosed, Christian Poulsen (Evian) undisclosed, Alberto Aquilani (AC Milan) undisclosed, Milan Jovanovic (Anderlecht) undisclosed, Tom Ince (Blackpool) undisclosed, Nabil El Zhar (Levante) undisclosed
As i just posted...
So we trimmed 30m from the wage bill and added 13 according to Telegraph. So we saved 17.
On transfers We spent 107 since fsg came in and recouped 78 ? So we spent 29 rebuilding the club minus 17 we saved in salaries = 12m cost to rebuild the club? Astonishing bit of business management if true..
[/quote]
Beat me to it this is the full article.... delighted we´ve done so well, although still pissed off we sold Ming.
Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli, at the behest of the club's owners, have ushered 19 players out of Liverpool's doors. The final two, Raul Meireles and Philipp Degen, departed with just minutes of the transfer window to spare. The past is finished. Let the future begin.
Fourteen players have been sold or released, and a further five dismissed temporarily, on loan, most notably Joe Cole and Alberto Aquilani.
An astounding £30 million has been wiped from the wage chitty, and a little over £20 million raised in funds.
The phrase "trimming of the squad" does not quite fit; this has been all-out attack on the errors of the past. Only Brad Jones and Danny Wilson remain of Roy Hodgson's signings, and only three of the 14 signed by Rafael Benítez in his final two years at the club. Less than a year after the putsch which brought Fenway Sports Group to Anfield, Liverpool have undergone a second Night of the Long Knives. This one, though, has lasted all summer.
Some were rather more willing than others to stand aside. Paul Konchesky accepted a wage cut to join Leicester. Nabil El Zhar, Emiliano Insua, Milan Jovanovic and, eventually, Degen agreed to cancel their contracts, albeit for lucrative settlements.
Related Articles
Liverpool will continue to pay for the mistakes that have gone before. Lille insist Liverpool will continue to supply 60 per cent of Cole's £80,000-a-week wages, meaning Anfield's finances will be drained to the tune of £2.5 million for a season in which the 29 year-old plays in France.
Christian Poulsen’s move to Evian has been subsidised, too, but that is rather the point: FSG see their glass as half-full, not half-empty. At least the £2.5 million paid to Cole while he is in France is a saving of £1.65 million. That is the ruthlessness that has pervaded Liverpool’s summer.
FSG were determined to build a more cost-effective squad, and were prepared to withstand the short-term financial cost to do so. Hence their decision to spend big and spend early, regardless of the knock-on effects later in the summer.
"The owners were happy to take risks and happy for us to spend money," reflected Comolli. "A lot of owners would have said the squad is too big, so you need to reduce, and then when you have done that, bring some players in, but that was never the approach. I told them we would need to buy first and they were very, very brave to accept that."
Nowhere was that cut-throat approach better witnessed than with Meireles. The Portuguese was not desperate to leave Anfield, but was left with no choice after seeing Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam recruited in midfield and a promise to augment his £35,000-a-week wage, should his first season be a success, broken.
Discussions over a pay rise never started. In the end, he had to hand in a transfer request and forego a loyalty payment to smooth his escape to Chelsea.
Few Liverpool fans would have sold Meireles, particularly not to a bitter foe and especially not for £12 million, roughly what Hodgson paid for the Portugal international last summer. That is the measure of the new Liverpool, though. Those who are not required will be cast aside. Dalglish wants only those soldiers he deems necessary; a bloated squadron is a cumbersome one.
"For me, the players they have signed have largely been British, which takes me back to when I started watching Liverpool," said Craig Bellamy, the final piece of incoming business carried out by Dalglish. "It looks so familiar to me, so to be part of it is such a huge honour."
Dalglish has built the squad he wanted: young, energetic, mostly home-grown, and with a passion for the club – but it fits FSG's vision, too. The squad is streamlined – 22 senior players, supported by youth – with this summer's six signings, Bellamy apart, earning a combined, and relatively modest, £13 million-a-season in wages.
That is a saving of £17 million-a-season. FSG are no asset-strippers, though. They have spent £114 million on players in eight months, plus wages, with £75 million regained in transfer fees. This is not a rerun of Liverpool's recent past. This is the start of the future.
Key Anfield departures: Raul Meireles (Chelsea) £12m, David Ngog (Bolton Wanderers) £4m, Paul Konchesky (Leicester City) £1.5m, Daniel Ayala (Norwich City) £800,000, Gerardo Bruna (Blackpool) £750,000,Joe Cole (Lille) loan, Emiliano Insua (Sporting Lisbon) undisclosed, Chris Mavinga (Rennes) undisclosed, Sotirios Kyrgiakos (Wolfsburg) undisclosed, Christian Poulsen (Evian) undisclosed, Alberto Aquilani (AC Milan) undisclosed, Milan Jovanovic (Anderlecht) undisclosed, Tom Ince (Blackpool) undisclosed, Nabil El Zhar (Levante) undisclosed
To whom it may concern as I am entirely too lazy to look up your name and quote:
Carroll wasn't a £35 million panic buy. He was a £35 million statement of intent. And in that respect, he was worth every cent.
Carroll wasn't a £35 million panic buy. He was a £35 million statement of intent. And in that respect, he was worth every cent.
[quote author=narwhal, ahoy! link=topic=46714.msg1393312#msg1393312 date=1314958349]
To whom it may concern as I am entirely too lazy to look up your name and quote:
Carroll wasn't a £35 million panic buy. He was a £35 million statement of intent. And in that respect, he was worth every cent.
[/quote]
Point taken... sadly we could possibly have taken more actual points if we had spent the money more wisely. So was selling meireles a statement also?
moot.
It has been a very very good year for the club on all levels, financially ( FSG), spiritually (Kenny and Clarke), and player wise ( too many to list).
I could gripe about some amounts paid, I am expert at griping, but i'd suggest all of us are a lot lot happier and optimistic than we were at this time last year and the turnaround really has been wonderful. I hope Carroll and the others do the business on the pitch and we all enjoy watching it.
I'm enjoying feeling good about the club for the first time since GnH started going pear shaped.
To whom it may concern as I am entirely too lazy to look up your name and quote:
Carroll wasn't a £35 million panic buy. He was a £35 million statement of intent. And in that respect, he was worth every cent.
[/quote]
Point taken... sadly we could possibly have taken more actual points if we had spent the money more wisely. So was selling meireles a statement also?
moot.
It has been a very very good year for the club on all levels, financially ( FSG), spiritually (Kenny and Clarke), and player wise ( too many to list).
I could gripe about some amounts paid, I am expert at griping, but i'd suggest all of us are a lot lot happier and optimistic than we were at this time last year and the turnaround really has been wonderful. I hope Carroll and the others do the business on the pitch and we all enjoy watching it.
I'm enjoying feeling good about the club for the first time since GnH started going pear shaped.
[quote author=narwhal, ahoy! link=topic=46714.msg1393312#msg1393312 date=1314958349]
Carroll wasn't a £35 million panic buy. He was a £35 million statement of intent.
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totally agree with this.
Carroll wasn't a £35 million panic buy. He was a £35 million statement of intent.
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totally agree with this.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46714.msg1393365#msg1393365 date=1314964692]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
People are too quick to write Carroll off, in time, he will prove his price tag, and he'll be a good asset this season, scoring 14+ goals.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
People are too quick to write Carroll off, in time, he will prove his price tag, and he'll be a good asset this season, scoring 14+ goals.
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=46714.msg1393371#msg1393371 date=1314964858]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46714.msg1393365#msg1393365 date=1314964692]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
People are too quick to write Carroll off, in time, he will prove his price tag, and he'll be a good asset this season, scoring 14+ goals.
[/quote]
14+ prem goals and a bunch in the cups I'll go for
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46714.msg1393365#msg1393365 date=1314964692]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
People are too quick to write Carroll off, in time, he will prove his price tag, and he'll be a good asset this season, scoring 14+ goals.
[/quote]
14+ prem goals and a bunch in the cups I'll go for
He'll never prove his price tag, but he will prove to be a good player for us. And that's all you can really expect of him, shouldn't be a mill stone.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46714.msg1393365#msg1393365 date=1314964692]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
I suspect it was simpler than that. Torres had asked to leave with not much of the window remaining so we needed a no.9, and a good one at that, pronto. Kenny wanted Carroll, Newcastle (understandably) took advantage of the situation and we decided that refusing the deal, leaving us without the striker we wanted (and needed), would do us more damage than paying their price. Time will tell if that was the right decision but, like you, I anticipate Carroll will be an important string to our bow as time goes on.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
I suspect it was simpler than that. Torres had asked to leave with not much of the window remaining so we needed a no.9, and a good one at that, pronto. Kenny wanted Carroll, Newcastle (understandably) took advantage of the situation and we decided that refusing the deal, leaving us without the striker we wanted (and needed), would do us more damage than paying their price. Time will tell if that was the right decision but, like you, I anticipate Carroll will be an important string to our bow as time goes on.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=46714.msg1393399#msg1393399 date=1314967377]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46714.msg1393365#msg1393365 date=1314964692]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
I suspect it was simpler than that. Torres had asked to leave with not much of the window remaining so we needed a no.9, and a good one at that, pronto. Kenny wanted Carroll, Newcastle (understandably) took advantage of the situation and we decided that refusing the deal, leaving us without the striker we wanted (and needed), would do us more damage than paying their price. Time will tell if that was the right decision but, like you, I anticipate Carroll will be an important string to our bow as time goes on.
[/quote]
JJ
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46714.msg1393365#msg1393365 date=1314964692]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46714.msg1393360#msg1393360 date=1314964367]
What was the intent?
To have everyone questioning our sanity?
[/quote]
we'd just been taken over and our previous owners had syphoned off transfer funds, we then sold our best player I think the intent was to show we weren't has been club and the new owners are willing to reinvest funds. that's what I took from the signing anyway.
that said, I still think carroll will be a vital asset away from home.
[/quote]
I suspect it was simpler than that. Torres had asked to leave with not much of the window remaining so we needed a no.9, and a good one at that, pronto. Kenny wanted Carroll, Newcastle (understandably) took advantage of the situation and we decided that refusing the deal, leaving us without the striker we wanted (and needed), would do us more damage than paying their price. Time will tell if that was the right decision but, like you, I anticipate Carroll will be an important string to our bow as time goes on.
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JJ
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