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Liverpool signings will get wide berth in summer

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Kenny Dalglish has ­decided Liverpool need to sign quality wide boys to bring out the best in £35million striker Andy Carroll.

That’s why the Liverpool boss is making the recruitment of Ashley Young from Aston Villa a top priority for the summer.

Young has declined the chance to extend his Villa contract and with just a year left on his current deal will be a prime transfer target this summer.

It may make commercial sense for Villa to sell their England star rather than lose him as a free agent next year.

If he does go, then Villa will look to Wolves’ Matt Jarvis as his replacement.

Manchester United are also trailing Young, but ­Dalglish is ­determined to seal the deal and pair him with a new full-back on the left flank.

Newcastle left-back Jose Enrique appears to be on course for a move to ­Anfield this summer.

The Spaniard has also turned down the chance to open talks over a new ­contract and his deal ­expires next year as well.

Enrique possesses the kind of pace and quality passing that Dalglish ­believes will help Carroll fulfil his potential.
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We're also linked with Matt Jarvis today, and I'm really starting to like that kid.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44625.msg1302270#msg1302270 date=1300616028]
We're also linked with Matt Jarvis today, and I'm really starting to like that kid.
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We're being linked with everyone. Same old...
 
I pray we signe Juan Vargas from Fiorentina.

An absolute best of a player, and would have no problems at all with the physicality of the EPL.

Ashley Young would be a decent option if he's available on the cheap but I'm not convinced about him.
 
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=44625.msg1302993#msg1302993 date=1300685283]
I pray we signe Juan Vargas from Fiorentina.
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That's who we should've signed instead of Dossena.
 
There seems to be a wealth of good wingers emerging at the moment so I'm sure we'll get one or two good ones in. I'm really looking forward to the next transfer window.

I have a gut feeling we'll get one top class foreign winger(sanchez, hazard etc.) and one good british one(Young, Jarvis).
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=44625.msg1303008#msg1303008 date=1300695735]
There seems to be a wealth of good wingers emerging at the moment so I'm sure we'll get one or two good ones in. I'm really looking forward to the next transfer window.

I have a gut feeling we'll get one top class foreign winger(sanchez, hazard etc.) and one good british one(Young, Jarvis).
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So Adam & marveux it is then...
 
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=44625.msg1303017#msg1303017 date=1300698150]

So Adam & marveux it is then...
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Heh, Adam isn't a winger though and I expect us to sign a couple of more wingers/forwards even if we sign Marveaux.
 
I'm pretty certain that Young will be our primary target as a winger. Especially since mark mc's revelation that he nearly signed for us in January. I guess with his contract running out, there's a possibility that we can get him for about £12-14m. At that price, he'd be an excellent piece of business.

Hazard and Sanchez would cost £20m plus and I doubt we have that kind of money to spend given that we need to address several other positions as well.

So, I guess it'll be Young and someone else.

That someone else will probably be a Comolli find. While signs are that this someone will be Marveaux, I really hope Comolli can unearth some unknown exciting kid from Ligue 1.
 
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[quote author=StevieM link=topic=44625.msg1303017#msg1303017 date=1300698150]

So Adam & marveux it is then...
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Heh, Adam isn't a winger though and I expect us to sign a couple of more wingers/forwards even if we sign Marveaux.
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Heh! None of our wide players are wingers... It's not the Liverpool way ... Heh!
 
Mark Mc also said we'd be shopping in Harrods from now on, don't forget, so i'm not giving up on us getting hazard just yet. i do agree that young will be right up there on our list of targets, though, but for his own merit rather than financial considerations.
 
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=44625.msg1303021#msg1303021 date=1300699363]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=44625.msg1303018#msg1303018 date=1300698305]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=44625.msg1303017#msg1303017 date=1300698150]

So Adam & marveux it is then...
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Heh, Adam isn't a winger though and I expect us to sign a couple of more wingers/forwards even if we sign Marveaux.
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Heh! None of our wide players are wingers... It's not the Liverpool way ... Heh!
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Err, ok. I thought you were kidding at first but it seems that wasn't the case.
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=44625.msg1303022#msg1303022 date=1300699480]
Mark Mc also said we'd be shopping in Harrods from now on, don't forget, so i'm not giving up on us getting hazard just yet. i do agree that young will be right up there on our list of targets, though, but for his own merit rather than financial considerations.
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Yep. Also there is an apparently reliable poster on RAWK who says our top targets next summer are Hazard and Sanchez.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44625.msg1303025#msg1303025 date=1300699832]
I think Young is absolutely on our list of targets
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Me too Sunny, too much smoke and all that, he's been getting mentioned for ages now.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=44625.msg1303023#msg1303023 date=1300699556]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=44625.msg1303021#msg1303021 date=1300699363]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=44625.msg1303018#msg1303018 date=1300698305]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=44625.msg1303017#msg1303017 date=1300698150]

So Adam & marveux it is then...
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Heh, Adam isn't a winger though and I expect us to sign a couple of more wingers/forwards even if we sign Marveaux.
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Heh! None of our wide players are wingers... It's not the Liverpool way ... Heh!
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Err, ok. I thought you were kidding at first but it seems that wasn't the case.
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I'm kidding..... But then again it wouldn't suprise me...
 
Good read on Matt Jarvis:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1368615/Matt-Jarvis-earns-wings-hard-working-Wolves-flyer-earns-deserved-nod-England.html

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"Matt Jarvis is in Fabio Capello’s squad because he has two great feet, loads of enthusiasm and works really hard for the team. He chips in with a few goals too and doesn’t panic in front of goal. He’s a talented, skilful player.

He can benefit Andy Carroll as well because the Liverpool man needs regular quality deliveries into the box and Matt can provide them. It says a lot for Mick McCarthy and Wolves too that he is in there when they have had such a tough season and are in the bottom three."
 
young is exactly what we need. someone to get down the wing and cross who has the pace to hurt teams on the counter attack. put the likes of hazard out of your minds, it isn't going to happen.
 
i don't want ashley young. too temperamental and lazy when not in the mood
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44625.msg1303834#msg1303834 date=1300814819]
i don't want ashley young. too temperamental and lazy when not in the mood
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Stereotypical bollocks. He's lightening quick, can beat a man, take a free quick and just the kind of player we lack.
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44625.msg1303834#msg1303834 date=1300814819]
i don't want ashley young. too temperamental and lazy when not in the mood
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Stereotypical bollocks. He's lightening quick, can beat a man, take a free quick and just the kind of player we lack.
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Stereotypical?

His best position seems to be behind a striker or playing just off one. He's fast, yes, but he is lazy and seems to think he's too good for Villa ... I don't think he's what we need - but he's far better than what we have currently, so if it's him or maxi/joe cole, well -
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=44625.msg1303841#msg1303841 date=1300815847]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44625.msg1303834#msg1303834 date=1300814819]
i don't want ashley young. too temperamental and lazy when not in the mood
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Stereotypical bollocks. He's lightening quick, can beat a man, take a free quick and just the kind of player we lack.
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i'm confused by the stereotypical part...

he can be a great player but he goes missing in more games than maxi. Just because he can be quick doesnt' mean he'll use it. and so what if he can take a free kick? so can suarez. plus he's piss weak.
Pretty sure most of the people we're linked to are better. Hazard, Sanchez, both better. Marveaux, probably not but at least hes cheap
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44625.msg1303852#msg1303852 date=1300816633]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=44625.msg1303841#msg1303841 date=1300815847]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44625.msg1303834#msg1303834 date=1300814819]
i don't want ashley young. too temperamental and lazy when not in the mood
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Stereotypical bollocks. He's lightening quick, can beat a man, take a free quick and just the kind of player we lack.
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i'm confused by the stereotypical part...

he can be a great player but he goes missing in more games than maxi. Just because he can be quick doesnt' mean he'll use it. and so what if he can take a free kick? so can suarez. plus he's piss weak.
Pretty sure most of the people we're linked to are better. Hazard, Sanchez, both better. Marveaux, probably not but at least hes cheap
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Hazard and Sanchez are both unproven in the Premier League and extremely costly.
Ashley Young is quick, direct and knows where the goal is. He has a lot of the attributes that we are sorely lacking in the team and he will give us options. There is also value in his signing given that two years ago £40m was being quoted.
 
I don't know much about Young's perceived attitude problems but what he does lack is an ability to go past players. He's extremely quick and fairly comfortable on the ball, but he's not going to give you the dimension that a Robben or a Ronaldo give with their ability to scare the shit out of the defenders they run at. Which is obviously why the likes of Hazard and Sanchez are so sought after as they're probably the best bets to be the next Robben/Ronaldo.

Having said that, what Young does offer is pace, width and a consistent supply of crosses from the wing. He is quite easily one of the best crossers of the ball in the PL and I can see Carroll benefiting tremendously from that. As for the concerns about his lazy work ethic, I can't profess to know much but his stats over the last 5 years have him averaging 10 goals and 10 assists a season. If he can be as consistently productive for us, he'd be excellent value at about £12m.

There's a lot of speculation about the owners spending really big in summer, and although I think we'll see a net outlay of about £30-40m in the summer, it'll probably be distributed amongst 3-4 signings. It's too much to expect them to splash £25m on a player like Hazard/Sanchez when we so badly need enforcements in areas like CM, CB and LB. Signing someone like Young for around £12m might represent the adquate compromise in addressing the need for a winger with a well established and quality PL performer rather than a potentially world class winger.

If we are to get that potentially world class winger, it'll have to be through Comolli spotting a cheaper and more unestablished talent. The likes of Wijnaldum or Boudebouz perhaps.
 
just not overly convinced with ashley young. He can do a man for pace but not trickery. i don't think he's particularly clever either. I'd want a bit more intelligence in a winger
 
is valencia a clever player? before he got injuried he was devastating for manu while being most average at his previous club. I would expect a similar jump in performances from young especially when someone as good as carroll is going to be on the end of his crosses.
 
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