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Liverpool financials FY 18-19

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They might though. I mean it's not like footy is getting any less popular. I'd imagine Liverpool has far more potential than Red Sox.

I just meant that the real reason we're so amazing now is Klopp, and to stay at this level without a miracle worker basically requires spending like City.

I can't really see that. But that's not to say they won't invest and we wouldn't still be really competitive.

They'll be hoping City and Chelsea have been subdued for good and that we can stay as successful as they need us to be more or less under our own steam.
 
Yeah, all the success so far has been down to great recruitment and not spending. If they fuck up the next recruitment the jury is out because we just don't know how they'll react. But they'll probs have sold us to Saudi by then anyway
 
I just meant that the real reason we're so amazing now is Klopp, and to stay at this level without a miracle worker basically requires spending like City.

I can't really see that. But that's not to say they won't invest and we wouldn't still be really competitive.

They'll be hoping City and Chelsea have been subdued for good and that we can stay as successful as they need us to be more or less under our own steam.

I don't think Klopp is the main reason.
 
They saved $12m in luxury tax by trading their best player since the legendary Ted Williams.

This is a team with more than half a billion in annual revenue. And made 80m in profits in 2018.

So a team that doesn't necessarily need to save money is still doing so, by getting rid of their best player.

See, people barely know half the story but it doesn't stop them from making assumptions.


Over the past 5 years, the Red Sox payroll has been top 3 in MLB and #1 in the last 2 years (18 and 19) so they are very well funded on the field.

Betts becomes a free agent after this coming 2020 season and has already rejected multiple offers from the Red Sox, the last one reported at 10yrs and 300 million (https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/re...s-red-sox-had-massive-gap-2019-contract-talks) which already would have made him one of the top paid players in all of baseball, and countered with 12yrs and 420 million.

For context, since you don't have any, 12yrs and 420 million would be the 2nd highest contract in the history of the sport, behind Mike Trout who signed 12/430. Except Mike Trout is a generational talent, who despite being only 1 year older than Betts, over his career has 2x as many HR's, 1.6x as many RBIs, higher OPS by 110 points and accumulated 71.6 WAR (wins above replacement, a stat MLB likes to use) to Betts' 41.8.

10/300 would put Betts on par with the contracts signed by Bryce Harper and Manny Machado (13/330 & 10/300 respectively) though they signed these contracts when they were FREE AGENTS, which Betts isn't. Those 2 contracts to Harper and Machado i believe are the largest ever contracts granted to free agents.

So no, the Red Sox aren't looking to save money but they had a player who didn't want to extend his contract with the team and wants to be a free agent to milk every penny he can get. Losing him as a free agent means the team gets a draft pick as compensation, which would not turn into anything valuable on the field for years, if ever. In this trade they got a good player in Verdugo and 2 other players who are more likely to be useful rather than a single draft pick, plus got rid of David Price (retaining half his contract) which was a contractual nightmare and allowed them to get under the tax threshold.

The problem with the Red Sox, and why it made sense to get under the tax threshold and reset the clock when it comes to penalties, is that the previous GM fucked them hard with a bunch of long, very expensive contracts on players who are not that good, so the team is not going to compete for a WS for a couple of years until the new GM gets out of that mess.

For more context, in 2020 the Red Sox will pay 90M to 5 players who are either damaged goods (Sale/Pedroia), not very good (Eovaldi) or no longer with the team (Castillo/Price).

So stop insinuating the Red Sox are being cheap and learn more about their situation instead of making ignorant assumptions.
 
Yeah and by the far the most important one, the one who if we changed would instantly fuck things, above all others by fucking miles, is Klopp
 
Liverpool 's wage bill rockets to £310m - the fifth-highest in the world - after shelling out on Champions League winners... but they still trail rivals Manchester United and City

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Liverpool now have the fifth highest wage bill in world football after their fees rose by 17.5% last season it has been revealed.

The Reds paid out a hefty £310million, just £2m shy of Spanish giants Real Madrid.


Above the La Liga side are Manchester City who spent £315m, Manchester United are in second place having paid out £332m and way out in front are Barcelona who spent an incredible £438m on wages last campaign.

The reason for the increase is likely due to the additions in the summer of 2018 which saw the Reds splash out £163million in transfer fees.

In came Alisson from Roma, Naby Keita from RB Leipzig, Fabinho from Monaco and Xherdan Shaqiri from Stoke, all of whom receive high wages.


Virgil van Dijk signed from Southampton for £75 million in January of 2018.

In the same year, Liverpool set about rewarding their prolific attacking trident of Mohamed Salah, Roberto Firmino and Sadio Mane with lucrative new deals.

Mane penned a contract worth in the region of £150,000 per week until 2023, while Firmino likewise sealed a deal which will bank him £9million annually. Salah, like Mane, committed until 2023 on a large pay increase.

As reported by Sportsmail, each of the Liverpool senior squad will share the rewards of a £4million pot should they go on to clinch the Premier League title this season.

All players who have played in the Premier League this season will be eligible for the bonus, which will be paid on a sliding scale determined by their number of appearances.

First-team regulars will bag approximately £150,000 on top of the standard win bonuses they get during the season.

Klopp is also in line for a significant bonus as the new four-and-a-half-year deal he signed in December included several performance incentives on top of his £15m salary.

Liverpool’s squad received £7m for winning the Champions League last season.


The Reds are above German champions Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Chelsea, Juventus and Arsenal.

That means five Premier League teams make the top 10 with Tottenham the only 'big six' side not included.


TOP 10 WAGE BILLS
1. Barcelona £438m

2. Manchester United £332m

3. Manchester City £315m

4. Real Madrid £312m

5. Liverpool £310m

6. Bayern Munich £292m

7. Paris Saint-Germain £290m

8. Chelsea £285m

9. Juventus £281m

10. Arsenal £230m
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