Liverpool enter race for Cliftonville's Rory Donnelly
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Kenny confirmed he's spoken to Cliftonville about Rory Donnelly: "I spoke to the chairman, it was nice of him to tell everybody!"
Kenny confirmed he's spoken to Cliftonville about Rory Donnelly: "I spoke to the chairman, it was nice of him to tell everybody!"
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Hope this comes off for the lad, but you'll never see him. He'll be playing league one or Scottish football within a year or two.
No he didnt.
He was an unused sub tonight with 7 clubs there watching him ;D
Just as a by the way, Cliftonville had a similar situation to this last season with Liam Boyce. Lots of big clubs interested in him before he finally went to Werder Bremen. Didn't make the cut and has just signed for Brentford. Players from over here are at a massive disadvantage going abroad/over the water because of the massive gap in quality between our league and the rest.
Just as a by the way, Cliftonville had a similar situation to this last season with Liam Boyce. Lots of big clubs interested in him before he finally went to Werder Bremen. Didn't make the cut and has just signed for Brentford. Players from over here are at a massive disadvantage going abroad/over the water because of the massive gap in quality between our league and the rest.
[quote author=nornirongooner link=topic=47983.msg1450239#msg1450239 date=1324513372]
He was an unused sub tonight with 7 clubs there watching him ;D
Just as a by the way, Cliftonville had a similar situation to this last season with Liam Boyce. Lots of big clubs interested in him before he finally went to Werder Bremen. Didn't make the cut and has just signed for Brentford. Players from over here are at a massive disadvantage going abroad/over the water because of the massive gap in quality between our league and the rest.
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This.
Probably the best team in Ireland at the moment, north or south, is Shamrock Rovers. They caused a sensation this season by qualifying for the group stages of the Europa League. Unfortunately they finished pointless at the bottom of their group. It takes an exceptional talent to make the progression from here to the premiership.
But maybe Rory is an exceptional talent. I dont know.
He was an unused sub tonight with 7 clubs there watching him ;D
Just as a by the way, Cliftonville had a similar situation to this last season with Liam Boyce. Lots of big clubs interested in him before he finally went to Werder Bremen. Didn't make the cut and has just signed for Brentford. Players from over here are at a massive disadvantage going abroad/over the water because of the massive gap in quality between our league and the rest.
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This.
Probably the best team in Ireland at the moment, north or south, is Shamrock Rovers. They caused a sensation this season by qualifying for the group stages of the Europa League. Unfortunately they finished pointless at the bottom of their group. It takes an exceptional talent to make the progression from here to the premiership.
But maybe Rory is an exceptional talent. I dont know.
Everton are the favourites now, apparently.
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Everton are the favourites now, apparently.
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He'll have the least competition for a role upfront at Everton. Perhaps the success of Seamus Coleman might sway his mind.
Everton are the favourites now, apparently.
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He'll have the least competition for a role upfront at Everton. Perhaps the success of Seamus Coleman might sway his mind.
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
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Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
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If he's good enough to play international I'd put my left bollock on the line to say he will go for Republic.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
If he's good enough to play international I'd put my left bollock on the line to say he will go for Republic.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450670#msg1450670 date=1324569367]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote]
I believe the South still accept anyone born in NI as 'Irish' and being Catholic isn't the critera required for playing for the South, just being born in the country.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote]
I believe the South still accept anyone born in NI as 'Irish' and being Catholic isn't the critera required for playing for the South, just being born in the country.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47983.msg1450678#msg1450678 date=1324569713]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450670#msg1450670 date=1324569367]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote]
I believe the South still accept anyone born in NI as 'Irish' and being Catholic isn't the critera required for playing for the South, just being born in the country.
[/quote]
Yeah of course! But Northern proddies want to play for Norn Iron!
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450670#msg1450670 date=1324569367]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote]
I believe the South still accept anyone born in NI as 'Irish' and being Catholic isn't the critera required for playing for the South, just being born in the country.
[/quote]
Yeah of course! But Northern proddies want to play for Norn Iron!
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450670#msg1450670 date=1324569367]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote] We have talked about this before Doc.
While it may be good for Rep of Ireland football it is more than likely being particularly damaging for the Northern Ireland team.
I am surprised that pressure isn't brought to bear at a political level to end the practice because it could have implications beyond football.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote] We have talked about this before Doc.
While it may be good for Rep of Ireland football it is more than likely being particularly damaging for the Northern Ireland team.
I am surprised that pressure isn't brought to bear at a political level to end the practice because it could have implications beyond football.
Yo, Doctor_mac, here's some academic jazz for you:
http://www.robinwilson.eu/attachments/Football%20For%20All%20doc.pdf
(I haven't read any of it so no idea what it's about, all I know is my wife works with this feller from time to time and mentioned the proactive work he has been doing the IFA. Feel free to read this and report back with your findings)
http://www.robinwilson.eu/attachments/Football%20For%20All%20doc.pdf
(I haven't read any of it so no idea what it's about, all I know is my wife works with this feller from time to time and mentioned the proactive work he has been doing the IFA. Feel free to read this and report back with your findings)
There's some great ideas in here Brad, and I think it is disappointing that some key changes suggested haven't yet been implemented (like finding an inclusive replacement for God Save the Queen as anthem. No doubt we've come a massive way thanks to bods like this guy.
[quote author=Bradley link=topic=47983.msg1450687#msg1450687 date=1324570580]
Yo, Doctor_mac, here's some academic jazz for you:
http://www.robinwilson.eu/attachments/Football%20For%20All%20doc.pdf
(I haven't read any of it so no idea what it's about, all I know is my wife works with this feller from time to time and mentioned the proactive work he has been doing the IFA. Feel free to read this and report back with your findings)
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[quote author=Bradley link=topic=47983.msg1450687#msg1450687 date=1324570580]
Yo, Doctor_mac, here's some academic jazz for you:
http://www.robinwilson.eu/attachments/Football%20For%20All%20doc.pdf
(I haven't read any of it so no idea what it's about, all I know is my wife works with this feller from time to time and mentioned the proactive work he has been doing the IFA. Feel free to read this and report back with your findings)
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[quote author=the count link=topic=47983.msg1450683#msg1450683 date=1324570276]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450670#msg1450670 date=1324569367]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote] We have talked about this before Doc.
While it may be good for Rep of Ireland football it is more than likely being particularly damaging for the Northern Ireland team.
I am surprised that pressure isn't brought to bear at a political level to end the practice because it could have implications beyond football.
[/quote]
Yeah mate, I agree. However there needs to be the political will to amend this, and given the fractious nature of politics north of the border I don't think they could agree to an amendment even if the govt. in the Republic were prepared to do so. I think the only thing the IFA can do is continue to work with catholic kids and their families, and hope that some will make the decision to play for the north when the time comes.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450670#msg1450670 date=1324569367]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450665#msg1450665 date=1324568981]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47983.msg1450662#msg1450662 date=1324568913]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47983.msg1450482#msg1450482 date=1324556693]
He can't be any good, he hasn't declared for the Republic yet.
[/quote]
Oh I'm sure he will, sadly.
[/quote]
I was only kidding. Will he actually?
[/quote]
Things have got to a sad state where the majority of Catholic players from Northern Ireland who reach that standard, or look like reaching it, are being persuaded to declare for the Republic, which, since the Good Friday Agreement, they have a right to do. The sad thing is that just as Northern Ireland has got a firm grip on the sectarian element in its international support, soon the Northern Ireland team will end up being 100% protestant.
[/quote] We have talked about this before Doc.
While it may be good for Rep of Ireland football it is more than likely being particularly damaging for the Northern Ireland team.
I am surprised that pressure isn't brought to bear at a political level to end the practice because it could have implications beyond football.
[/quote]
Yeah mate, I agree. However there needs to be the political will to amend this, and given the fractious nature of politics north of the border I don't think they could agree to an amendment even if the govt. in the Republic were prepared to do so. I think the only thing the IFA can do is continue to work with catholic kids and their families, and hope that some will make the decision to play for the north when the time comes.
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