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Liverpool 4-3 DOrtmund and Andy 2 (AET)

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I don't know whether that was a planned move it not but it was perfect.
Sturridge and Milner played it excellently.

It wasn't planned. Sturridge spotted the channel was free and pointed to where he wanted the ball. Milner obliged with the pass. Milner, like the work horse he is, continued his run and the hold up play from Sturridge allowed Milner to arrive in the box to get the return. It just worked out perfectly. Milner did excellently to dig out the cross to the back post then.
 
I think the first bit - Milner to Sturridge was planned; well, at least Sturridge clearly signaled to Milner to put it where he wanted it. And it was great too, because once you put the ball to feet in the box like that, you create an additional advantage of maybe earning a penalty. What happened after that though, I think was pretty much freelance work.

I've just watched it again - and got goosebumps again - but what was Dortmund doing there? Aubameyang totally forgot about Milner once the kick was taken, and then if you look at the far post, we had 3 guys lining up - Lovren, Origi and Moreno - with only Adrian Ramos there. That was just totally awful defending.
 
I think the first bit - Milner to Sturridge was planned; well, at least Sturridge clearly signaled to Milner to put it where he wanted it. And it was great too, because once you put the ball to feet in the box like that, you create an additional advantage of maybe earning a penalty. What happened after that though, I think was pretty much freelance work.

Oh sorry, I think I read too much into Ross' post about it being planned.

It was obviously intentional. Sturridge points to where he wants the ball. I just meant it wasn't planned on the training ground or anything. It was done instinctively.
 
Oh sorry, I think I read too much into Ross' post about it being planned.

It was obviously intentional. Sturridge points to where he wants the ball. I just meant it wasn't planned on the training ground or anything. It was done instinctively.

Who knows though. Maybe the bad touches were part of the reus.
 
Can got injured innocuously during a corner wasn't it? You could see him trip over trailing leg as he made his run in the box. Very unlucky if the injury is long term.
 
It's always hard to do any ratings after such a wonderful night and attempt to be fair and objective, but as that is my trademark I will do my best.

Not much to add that the match threads haven't illustrated already, but that was a performance that bordered on the supernatural at times. The best team on the pitch was Dortmund. The best players on the pitch were Dortmund's; Hummels, Reus, Miktharyan, Abaumeyang. The team who created the best chances were Dortmund.

Dortmund still lost, because Liverpool - players, manager and fans - simply refused to accept any of those facts. And as Dortmund kept seeing us come back from punishing blow after punishing blow, refusing to stay down, their belief, their own conviction that they were superior, they should win, evaporated in the face of a relentless will.

Mignolet (7) He seems to be on a very good run of form. The mistakes are fewer, and the confidence higher. He made several good saves and while his kicking is still fucking horrible. he can't be blamed for any of the goals.

Sakho (5) Oh, Sakho. Let's start with the positives; he scored a goal (my customary extra point for that). He made several good tackles and interceptions. He was positive in possession. But.......but. He's not very good. His positioning is hopeless and he was all over the place for the goals, playing the Dortmund strikers onside almost every time. I despair that he is such a crowd favourite, but I do understand it. The Kop often adopts a hopeless case because he tries hard. And he does try hard. That effort is laudable, and means that for every fucking clumsy numbskull fuckwitted mistake he makes, there is likely to be a goal-saving superhero tackle right behind it.

Lovren (6) That goal. It will linger in the memory. Wonderful. Extra point. But while he was better than Sakho, he was still pulled all over the place by Dortmund's clever, pacey attackers. He often went looking for them, wandering up and across the pitch, only to find out they'd gone past him already. The defending for large parts of the game was horrifically ragged, and while he never let his head drop, we need Lovren to start playing with a bit more composure and brains; a big heart and determination isn't enough.

Moreno (6) He never stopped running full pelt up and down the left. But that frenetic style doesn't leave much room for tight defending, as he left gaps all night, which he had to make amends for by flying into all sorts of tackles. I love that pace and attacking mindset,a nd it is an important asset, but more defending would be nice Alberto. Especially when Sakho's next to you.

Clyne (7) The pick of the defence from a defensive POV - which is the most important one, obviously - and also wasn't hard to achieve. He was left very exposed for the Reus goal, but it was a great pass and Hummels shouldn't have been allowed to wander forwards and then pick out the pass.

Can (7) He looked - as he often does - very ponderous at times, especially in the first half, but he was bypassed so often because he didn't really have much support; Milner was often wide, or fuurther up front, and Lallana and Firmino didn't give him much help either. Played some lovely passes though, and actually started to dominate midfield as the game wore on. Injury forced him off, and that's not good when you consider the options left. Fucking Lucas.

Milner (7) He seemed to be playing in several positions at once, and his non-stop industry was most impressive, although he was another that seemed perplexed by Dortmund's quicksilver passing and movement, especially the wonderfully gifted Reus. His passing and set-pieces were again erratic (and often plain terrible), but he made two goals and put another couple of crosses in great areas. Has scored/ assisted 19 goals this season.

Lallana (5) I'm never convinced by Lallana, and even less so when Klopp tries to shoe-horn him, Firmino and Coutinho into the same side, because none of those three are really suited to playing wide, and that's what happened last night. He simply couldn't contribute enough from wide, and he has no pace, so can't escape defenders. One dismal airshot summed up his evening and he was rightly hooked.

Firmino (5) Followed up his mediocre display against Stoke with another average game. Gave the ball away carelessly, and never looked really dangerous. Linked up well with Coutinho a couple of times, and had one header, but that's about it. Rightly subbed.

Coutinho (7) Another who was guilty of some over-playing and sloppy passing but, unlike Firmino, move forward with real menace and peppered the Dortmund goal. Most of his peppering went wide, admittedly, but the one that counted was a genuinely superlative finish after a cute one-two with Milner. He is now scoring the amount of goals that is required for a player in his position, and is approaching a new level.

Origi (8) Dortmund won't want to play against him again soon. He was everywhere; holding the ball up, running into whatever space he found, linking up with Coutinho and Milner, attacking crosses, and scoring again. Very good indeed.

Subs:

Allen (7) Brought more control and support for Can in midfield, and was more attacking than he is usually. Another valuable contribution

Sturridge (6) Should have been on earlier, as his brains and trickery, and that lovely close control, caused immediate problems. Very cute pass into Milner for the Lovren goal.

Lucas (3) Seems harsh to score him, but even in the few minutes he was on, he was doing his usual ridiculous fouls because he literally CANNOT run. Needs to be fucked off pronto, but as usual, the Lucas curse has struck and every midfielder we have is now injured, so he'll play.
 
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Can got injured innocuously during a corner wasn't it? You could see him trip over trailing leg as he made his run in the box. Very unlucky if the injury is long term.

Will have a scan today. They fear his gotten some ankle ligament damage after he twisted it.
 
Sakho (5) Oh, Sakho. Let's start with the positives; he scored a goal (my customary extra point for that). He made several good tackles and interceptions. He was positive in possession. But.......but. He's not very good. His positioning is hopeless and he was all over the place for the goals, playing the Dortmund strikers onside almost every time. I despair that he is such a crowd favourite, but I do understand it. The Kop often adopts a hopeless case because he tries hard. And he does try hard. That effort is laudable, and means that for every fucking clumsy numbskull fuckwitted mistake he makes, there is likely to be a goal-saving superhero tackle right behind it.

Summed him up perfectly there. He does make some great last ditch tackles, but people were putting a case forward for him in the match thread, that it was an agenda against him, etc. Have a look at the goals again. Great passion etc but he's a poor defender, and he was pretty fucking graceless the way he goaded the Dortmund fans at the end. Stuff like that usually comes back to bite you on the arse, one way or another.
 
I do, and have always thought that Liverpool look better when they try to outscore the opposition simply because we can't defend reliably. It happened during BR's wonder season and last night was reminiscent of those high scoring fixtures. We aren't a cagey side like Atletico and some others.

Blood and thunder and a fierce will to win is a hallmark of some of our greatest victories. The remaining teams in the draw won't fancy playing us, not because we're technically good but because they know we are going to be relentless.
 
Have England in some way finally turned the screw a bit on Germany? First the International the other week, and now this?
 
Summed him up perfectly there. He does make some great last ditch tackles, but people were putting a case forward for him in the match thread, that it was an agenda against him, etc. Have a look at the goals again. Great passion etc but he's a poor defender, and he was pretty fucking graceless the way he goaded the Dortmund fans at the end. Stuff like that usually comes back to bite you on the arse, one way or another.

Did he do that? That shows no class. You shouldn't do that to any opposition fans, but especially fans as good as Dortmunds.
 
Have England in some way finally turned the screw a bit on Germany? First the International the other week, and now this?

There was a Jonathan Wilson article the other week about how English football is starting to embrace pressing again. The jist of the article was that we were always really good at it, was a key component to how we played, but when the ban following Heysel was lifted there was this feeling that in order to compete in Europe again we had to start playing the way they did. And now we've started to realise (in the international team as well) that it's something we're quite good at.

I've probably massively oversimplified the article. Here it is:

http://www.theguardian.com/football...lopp-liverpool-english-football-gegenpressing
 
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