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LFC SOLD to NESV.

Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41783.msg1197043#msg1197043 date=1287135416]
KellyCates Kelly Cates
by JimBoardman
Guardian saying tro might have been lifted to stop H&G going to jail!!! Says they were economical with facts in Texas court

[/quote]

That was an email sent in from some random, I doubt this is the case.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=41783.msg1197042#msg1197042 date=1287135409]
Here's a link to skysports news for anyone who needs one

http://www.vip---tv.com/
[/quote]

cheers
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

This thing has more twists and turns than a barrel full of intestines.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

I think we need to also realise that it snt just a matter of who banks in the money first.

A buyer needs to make an offer to purchase which also settles the debts with RBS.

I dont think such an offer could be made without referring the matter to the Board where the Chairman woud then need to seek consent from RBS.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41783.msg1197043#msg1197043 date=1287135416]
KellyCates Kelly Cates
by JimBoardman
Guardian saying tro might have been lifted to stop H&G going to jail!!! Says they were economical with facts in Texas court

[/quote]

The High court ruling yesterday instructed them to lift it today or face the consequences. Calm down Neil.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=ILD link=topic=41783.msg1197044#msg1197044 date=1287135467]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1197030#msg1197030 date=1287135062]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=41783.msg1197025#msg1197025 date=1287134984]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1197017#msg1197017 date=1287134866]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41783.msg1196983#msg1196983 date=1287134147]
is this now a case of who gets the money to RBS first?
[/quote]

Yes.

The ownership of the club will be decided by a race.
[/quote]

That's bullshit. Mill will have a head start with them being privy as to when the TRO was lifted.
[/quote]

Where is Mill Financial's head office ?

Is it closer to London than Boston ?
[/quote]

I think, there should be handicap of some sort implemented. Hicks must compete in a three legged race.
[/quote]

This is ace, it's like Brewster's Millions!
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

I'll believe the TRO has been lifted when I see it in writing.

"Hi Judge, Stoghill here, sorry I dragged you into a jurisdictional dispute with the High Court in London. Those Brits are crazy. By the way, we won't need the 7 am hearing. I'm lifting your TRO."
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

Stop fucking worrying! We've got Gandalf AND Magneto! Deal with it.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41783.msg1197052#msg1197052 date=1287135638]
Stop fucking worrying! We've got Gandalf AND Magneto! Deal with it.
[/quote]

Fuck off you, Spider Neil is being you today.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

Races are shit.

They should have arm wrestled for it
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1197054#msg1197054 date=1287135703]
Races are shit.

They should have arm wrestled for it
[/quote]

Nah, they should have made Hicks himself take part in the race and put Purslow or Ayre up against him.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41783.msg1197048#msg1197048 date=1287135603]
I think we need to also realise that it snt just a matter of who banks in the money first.

A buyer needs to make an offer to purchase which also settles the debts with RBS.

I dont think such an offer could be made without referring the matter to the Board where the Chairman woud then need to seek consent from RBS.
[/quote]

Does Hicks need anyone's permission to have his debts paid off? Can the board prevent him from clearing his fiscal obligations, thereby incurring penalties in the process? I'm not so sure.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

Haha.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-takeover-latest-Revealed-the-watertight-contract-of-sale-that-all-but-ensures-NESV-will-see-off-Tom-Hicks-Mill-Financial-and-Kenny-Huang-to-become-new-owners-article601061.html

Makes sense:

"John W Henry has a binding contract of sale with Liverpool.

And that is the crucial detail which should thwart late attempts by Tom Hicks to contrive a deal to sell to another buyer.

Yesterday, another day of drama and intrigue left the main shareholder of New England Sports Ventures proclaiming in the High Court in London that he was the “new owner†of the club.

And the Mirror understands NESV signed that contract of sale more than a week ago, with the completed deal merely subject to ratification by the High Court, which was given this week.


It seems the whole future of Liverpool Football Club has been decided by that piece of legalese. This morning, Hicks has been involved in complicated negotiations over a deal with a US Hedge Fund, who in turn have been talking to Chinese businessman Kenny Huang.

Hicks has been in talks with Mill Financial, the hedge fund who are owed £74million by George Gillett when the co-owner of Liverpool defaulted on loans to them.

Mill are understood to be prepared to put up the £240million required to pay off the debt owed by Hicks and Gillett to RBS, which would free them of obligations to the bank.

That, potentially, could clear the way for Mill to take controversial control of the club and pave the way for a sale to Huang, who has been lurking in the background trying to put together a deal to buy the Premier League club for some time now.

But NESV have made clear they have a watertight contract of sale already in place, and that ultimately should thwart Huang’s ambitious plans.

Henry, in a message on his twitter account offered a very pointed assessment of the situation. We have a binding contract. Will fight Mill Hicks Gillett attempt to keep club today. Their last desperate attempt to entrench their regime,†he tweeted.

What that means in layman’s terms is he believes he is already the owner of the club, and has been for more than a week now, after Liverpool’s board voted last week to accept his offer.

If he merely had an agreement in place to buy the club, and Hicks contrives to eventually sell to Huang, then he could sue for costs incurred in his failed bid.

But with a contract signed to owned the club it means he can sue any new owner for DAMAGES if that contract is broken – and those could potentially run into hundreds of millions of pounds.

That would be too big a risk for Mill Financial to take, and certainly for Huang to take.

The way Hicks is now trying to structure his counter deal this morning, would mean that Huang would effectively be left paying between £450-£500million for Liverpool, which is already above his valuation.

But potential damages could double or even treble that figure. And with Huang apparently backed by Chinese government money, he simply couldn’t take such a massive risk with sovereign funds.

Mill too, have an obligation to their investors to get the best possible deal, and knowingly entering into a deal with exposure to potential damages would simply not be tolerated under their articles.

There is one more significant factor that should prevent Hicks’ one final desperate roll of the dice this morning, as he scrambles around like a pantomime villain, intent on wringing more money out of his Liverpool investment.

Hicks himself must repay the loans to the RBS under his contract with them, and must therefore borrow the money from Mill Financial to do that.

But he must also get approval from his club’s board of directors to make the repayment, and the board are legally obliged to consider the impact of such an action on the club.

What they will have to take into account is that such a move would expose Liverpool Football Club to potentially hundreds of millions of pounds of damages, which could ruin the business.

And legally then, their fiduciary duty as directors of the club would seem to be to prevent the repayment of the loans to RBS by Hicks, and instead insist the deal with NESV goes ahead.

That should happen this afternoon, when a judge in Dallas is expected to lift a temporary restraining order placed on the directors by a Texas court, preventing NESV from assuming their duties as the new owners.

Judge Jim Jordan will rule at 1pm English time, and is expected to take an hour to consider lifting the order. Legal experts say he has not other option but to do so, and Henry will assume control at Anfield the moment after."
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

Ro Sham Bo for it

Home team first
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1197054#msg1197054 date=1287135703]
Races are shit.

They should have arm wrestled for it
[/quote]

gosh no! hicks is a pretty big guy and broughton is kind of a wimp
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=41783.msg1197050#msg1197050 date=1287135616]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=41783.msg1197044#msg1197044 date=1287135467]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1197030#msg1197030 date=1287135062]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=41783.msg1197025#msg1197025 date=1287134984]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1197017#msg1197017 date=1287134866]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41783.msg1196983#msg1196983 date=1287134147]
is this now a case of who gets the money to RBS first?
[/quote]

Yes.

The ownership of the club will be decided by a race.
[/quote]

That's bullshit. Mill will have a head start with them being privy as to when the TRO was lifted.
[/quote]

Where is Mill Financial's head office ?

Is it closer to London than Boston ?
[/quote]

I think, there should be handicap of some sort implemented. Hicks must compete in a three legged race.
[/quote]

This is ace, it's like Brewster's Millions!
[/quote]

Nah fuck that Ian. I want to go the whole hog. I want it to be takeshi castle style. Hicks running through doors, swamps and avoiding various obstacles whilst holding onto the 237million odd cheque made payable to Mr RBS.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41783.msg1197043#msg1197043 date=1287135416]
KellyCates Kelly Cates
by JimBoardman
Guardian saying tro might have been lifted to stop H&G going to jail!!! Says they were economical with facts in Texas court

[/quote]

Is that Kenny's daughter?
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=41783.msg1197057#msg1197057 date=1287135797]
Haha.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-takeover-latest-Revealed-the-watertight-contract-of-sale-that-all-but-ensures-NESV-will-see-off-Tom-Hicks-Mill-Financial-and-Kenny-Huang-to-become-new-owners-article601061.html

Makes sense:

"John W Henry has a binding contract of sale with Liverpool.

And that is the crucial detail which should thwart late attempts by Tom Hicks to contrive a deal to sell to another buyer.

Yesterday, another day of drama and intrigue left the main shareholder of New England Sports Ventures proclaiming in the High Court in London that he was the “new owner†of the club.

And the Mirror understands NESV signed that contract of sale more than a week ago, with the completed deal merely subject to ratification by the High Court, which was given this week.


It seems the whole future of Liverpool Football Club has been decided by that piece of legalese. This morning, Hicks has been involved in complicated negotiations over a deal with a US Hedge Fund, who in turn have been talking to Chinese businessman Kenny Huang.

Hicks has been in talks with Mill Financial, the hedge fund who are owed £74million by George Gillett when the co-owner of Liverpool defaulted on loans to them.

Mill are understood to be prepared to put up the £240million required to pay off the debt owed by Hicks and Gillett to RBS, which would free them of obligations to the bank.

That, potentially, could clear the way for Mill to take controversial control of the club and pave the way for a sale to Huang, who has been lurking in the background trying to put together a deal to buy the Premier League club for some time now.

But NESV have made clear they have a watertight contract of sale already in place, and that ultimately should thwart Huang’s ambitious plans.

Henry, in a message on his twitter account offered a very pointed assessment of the situation. We have a binding contract. Will fight Mill Hicks Gillett attempt to keep club today. Their last desperate attempt to entrench their regime,†he tweeted.

What that means in layman’s terms is he believes he is already the owner of the club, and has been for more than a week now, after Liverpool’s board voted last week to accept his offer.

If he merely had an agreement in place to buy the club, and Hicks contrives to eventually sell to Huang, then he could sue for costs incurred in his failed bid.

But with a contract signed to owned the club it means he can sue any new owner for DAMAGES if that contract is broken – and those could potentially run into hundreds of millions of pounds.

That would be too big a risk for Mill Financial to take, and certainly for Huang to take.

The way Hicks is now trying to structure his counter deal this morning, would mean that Huang would effectively be left paying between £450-£500million for Liverpool, which is already above his valuation.

But potential damages could double or even treble that figure. And with Huang apparently backed by Chinese government money, he simply couldn’t take such a massive risk with sovereign funds.

Mill too, have an obligation to their investors to get the best possible deal, and knowingly entering into a deal with exposure to potential damages would simply not be tolerated under their articles.

There is one more significant factor that should prevent Hicks’ one final desperate roll of the dice this morning, as he scrambles around like a pantomime villain, intent on wringing more money out of his Liverpool investment.

Hicks himself must repay the loans to the RBS under his contract with them, and must therefore borrow the money from Mill Financial to do that.

But he must also get approval from his club’s board of directors to make the repayment, and the board are legally obliged to consider the impact of such an action on the club.

What they will have to take into account is that such a move would expose Liverpool Football Club to potentially hundreds of millions of pounds of damages, which could ruin the business.

And legally then, their fiduciary duty as directors of the club would seem to be to prevent the repayment of the loans to RBS by Hicks, and instead insist the deal with NESV goes ahead.

That should happen this afternoon, when a judge in Dallas is expected to lift a temporary restraining order placed on the directors by a Texas court, preventing NESV from assuming their duties as the new owners.

Judge Jim Jordan will rule at 1pm English time, and is expected to take an hour to consider lifting the order. Legal experts say he has not other option but to do so, and Henry will assume control at Anfield the moment after."
[/quote]

Please, oh please let this be true.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

Hey lads who is rumored to have gotten Ronnie Whelan's daughter up the dove? Someone in work just asked me! Is this old news?
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

If we actually knew for a fact that Huang had billions of Chinese state funds to throw at us I wouldn't mind him getting involved. But why didn't he proceed with the offer earlier when he was the front runner? Twat.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1197064#msg1197064 date=1287136051]
If we actually knew for a fact that Huang had billions of Chinese state funds to throw at us I wouldn't mind him getting involved. But why didn't he proceed with the offer earlier when he was the front runner? Twat.
[/quote]

Nah Haung and Lim are chancers Doc. PR whores. That's my story and i'm sticking to it.

KEEP THE FAITH.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=ILD link=topic=41783.msg1197063#msg1197063 date=1287135994]
Hey lads who is rumored to have gotten Ronnie Whelan's daughter up the dove? Someone in work just asked me! Is this old news?
[/quote]

Ray Clemence?
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1197064#msg1197064 date=1287136051]
If we actually knew for a fact that Huang had billions of Chinese state funds to throw at us I wouldn't mind him getting involved. But why didn't he proceed with the offer earlier when he was the front runner? Twat.
[/quote]

There were conflicting reports at the time about whether or not Chinese state funds really were involved. Either way, I suspect the price Hicks was demanding had a lot to do with Huang pulling out.

When this is all done, I reckon Hicks' sheer greed may well come to be seen as having cost him a fortune.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

This forum is running faster than I can read... *I am off* and that will be 50 pages later in 5 hours time!!!!
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1197056#msg1197056 date=1287135783]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41783.msg1197048#msg1197048 date=1287135603]
I think we need to also realise that it snt just a matter of who banks in the money first.

A buyer needs to make an offer to purchase which also settles the debts with RBS.

I dont think such an offer could be made without referring the matter to the Board where the Chairman woud then need to seek consent from RBS.
[/quote]

Does Hicks need anyone's permission to have his debts paid off? Can the board prevent him from clearing his fiscal obligations, thereby incurring penalties in the process? I'm not so sure.
[/quote]


This might become a legal point at the declaratory suit.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1197066#msg1197066 date=1287136145]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=41783.msg1197063#msg1197063 date=1287135994]
Hey lads who is rumored to have gotten Ronnie Whelan's daughter up the dove? Someone in work just asked me! Is this old news?
[/quote]

Ray Clemence?
[/quote]

Seems bizarre but that's also the rumour I heard.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41783.msg1197070#msg1197070 date=1287136247]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1197064#msg1197064 date=1287136051]
If we actually knew for a fact that Huang had billions of Chinese state funds to throw at us I wouldn't mind him getting involved. But why didn't he proceed with the offer earlier when he was the front runner? Twat.
[/quote]

There were conflicting reports at the time about whether or not Chinese state funds really were involved. Either way, I suspect the price Hicks was demanding had a lot to do with Huang pulling out.

When this is all done, I reckon Hicks' sheer greed may well come to be seen as having cost him a fortune.
[/quote]

He was offered 500 mill a couple of years ago wasn't he? Silly man.
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

Taking the Hicks twat factor out of this, i'm not sure who i want to win out of Huang v's NESV
 
Re: LFC not yet sold to NESV (but we're getting there, maybe...)

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41783.msg1197062#msg1197062 date=1287135973]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=41783.msg1197057#msg1197057 date=1287135797]
Haha.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-takeover-latest-Revealed-the-watertight-contract-of-sale-that-all-but-ensures-NESV-will-see-off-Tom-Hicks-Mill-Financial-and-Kenny-Huang-to-become-new-owners-article601061.html

Makes sense:

"John W Henry has a binding contract of sale with Liverpool.

And that is the crucial detail which should thwart late attempts by Tom Hicks to contrive a deal to sell to another buyer.

Yesterday, another day of drama and intrigue left the main shareholder of New England Sports Ventures proclaiming in the High Court in London that he was the “new owner†of the club.

And the Mirror understands NESV signed that contract of sale more than a week ago, with the completed deal merely subject to ratification by the High Court, which was given this week.


It seems the whole future of Liverpool Football Club has been decided by that piece of legalese. This morning, Hicks has been involved in complicated negotiations over a deal with a US Hedge Fund, who in turn have been talking to Chinese businessman Kenny Huang.

Hicks has been in talks with Mill Financial, the hedge fund who are owed £74million by George Gillett when the co-owner of Liverpool defaulted on loans to them.

Mill are understood to be prepared to put up the £240million required to pay off the debt owed by Hicks and Gillett to RBS, which would free them of obligations to the bank.

That, potentially, could clear the way for Mill to take controversial control of the club and pave the way for a sale to Huang, who has been lurking in the background trying to put together a deal to buy the Premier League club for some time now.

But NESV have made clear they have a watertight contract of sale already in place, and that ultimately should thwart Huang’s ambitious plans.

Henry, in a message on his twitter account offered a very pointed assessment of the situation. We have a binding contract. Will fight Mill Hicks Gillett attempt to keep club today. Their last desperate attempt to entrench their regime,†he tweeted.

What that means in layman’s terms is he believes he is already the owner of the club, and has been for more than a week now, after Liverpool’s board voted last week to accept his offer.

If he merely had an agreement in place to buy the club, and Hicks contrives to eventually sell to Huang, then he could sue for costs incurred in his failed bid.

But with a contract signed to owned the club it means he can sue any new owner for DAMAGES if that contract is broken – and those could potentially run into hundreds of millions of pounds.

That would be too big a risk for Mill Financial to take, and certainly for Huang to take.

The way Hicks is now trying to structure his counter deal this morning, would mean that Huang would effectively be left paying between £450-£500million for Liverpool, which is already above his valuation.

But potential damages could double or even treble that figure. And with Huang apparently backed by Chinese government money, he simply couldn’t take such a massive risk with sovereign funds.

Mill too, have an obligation to their investors to get the best possible deal, and knowingly entering into a deal with exposure to potential damages would simply not be tolerated under their articles.

There is one more significant factor that should prevent Hicks’ one final desperate roll of the dice this morning, as he scrambles around like a pantomime villain, intent on wringing more money out of his Liverpool investment.

Hicks himself must repay the loans to the RBS under his contract with them, and must therefore borrow the money from Mill Financial to do that.

But he must also get approval from his club’s board of directors to make the repayment, and the board are legally obliged to consider the impact of such an action on the club.

What they will have to take into account is that such a move would expose Liverpool Football Club to potentially hundreds of millions of pounds of damages, which could ruin the business.

And legally then, their fiduciary duty as directors of the club would seem to be to prevent the repayment of the loans to RBS by Hicks, and instead insist the deal with NESV goes ahead.

That should happen this afternoon, when a judge in Dallas is expected to lift a temporary restraining order placed on the directors by a Texas court, preventing NESV from assuming their duties as the new owners.

Judge Jim Jordan will rule at 1pm English time, and is expected to take an hour to consider lifting the order. Legal experts say he has not other option but to do so, and Henry will assume control at Anfield the moment after."
[/quote]

Please, oh please let this be true.
[/quote]

The whole article sounds like unsubstantiated speculative BS. The part about Huang is probably completely made up.
 
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