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I genuinely believe that when Sakho and Enrique are back, we will be extremely good. The difference those two being out makes is huge.


Toure and Skrtel are fine for now in my opinion, but yeah, it will be great to have Enrique back.
 
Definitely missing the balance he gives us, he's pretty steady and unflustered as a fullback. Ok, so he does have his deficiencies and in the longterm we'd probably be looking to do better, but as far as the standards of our fullbacks go, we'd look far more defensively sound with Flanno and Enrique.

Any coincidence that Skrtel looked better AND we kept a clean sheet without Johnson?
 
Definitely missing the balance he gives us, he's pretty steady and unflustered as a fullback. Ok, so he does have his deficiencies and in the longterm we'd probably be looking to do better, but as far as the standards of our fullbacks go, we'd look far more defensively sound with Flanno and Enrique.

Any coincidence that Skrtel looked better AND we kept a clean sheet without Johnson?


I'm not sure about Skrtel. Shirt pulling aside, I think he's been consistently excellent for a long time now regardless of who plays at RB.
 
If Enrique is out any longer he'll be the best left back in the world.

As for this deal, fuck the valuation. If we get beaten to a target by a rival again it sends out the message that were aren't serious.

Going all in for a player & getting him does the exact opposite.
 
I don't think anyone has intimated that at all. Fact is, he is miles better than what we have been putting out there lately.

Tongue was firmly in cheek my friend.

He's easily our best left back option (although Johnson when fit & on form is better on that side) It's just when he plays he still has a myriad of flaws, which when he doesn't play people overlook cos his replacements are simply so shit that anyone competent will do.

If we get Johnson back to fitness & Enrique playing with Sakho we may get some defensive solidity to go along with our goals.
 
I don't think anyone has intimated that at all. Fact is, he is miles better than what we have been putting out there lately.


My 13 year old son wouldn't be much worse than what we have been putting out there lately. (and my son is a CM...)
 
I've always said Enrique's amongst the top 5 left backs in the league and I still stand by that. Might be more telling of the quality of the league, but I really like him, as frustrating as he can be at times.
He also always looks to play in Suarez making those diagonal runs (and succeeds), something all the players that have stood in for him have been incapable of doing, to Suarez's obvious annoyance.
 
I've always said Enrique's amongst the top 5 left backs in the league and I still stand by that. Might be more telling of the quality of the league, but I really like him, as frustrating as he can be at times.
He also always looks to play in Suarez making those diagonal runs (and succeeds), something all the players that have stood in for him have been incapable of doing, to Suarez's obvious annoyance.

I could give you 5 better left backs in the PL than Enrique at the drop of a fucking hat.

This is revisionism at its best. Cissokho's absurd shortness has people thinking delusionally about Enrique. He was fucking bang average before he got injured, and he'll be that again when he's back. Being better than Cissokho is no feat.

We need better and I'll be staggered if we don't sign someone better by the summer.
 
I could give you 5 better left backs in the PL than Enrique at the drop of a fucking hat.

This is revisionism at its best. Cissokho's absurd shortness has people thinking delusionally about Enrique. He was fucking bang average before he got injured, and he'll be that again when he's back. Being better than Cissokho is no feat.

We need better and I'll be staggered if we don't sign someone better by the summer.

Enrique infuriates me at times too but I can't wait for him to come back. I can't handle Ally at left back anymore.

On a side note, who are the five better LB's off the top of your head? I'd go Baines, Evra, Verthongen, Cole, ???

Edit: Just saw Ross asking to stay on topic. Perhaps we can split this into a new thread?? I'll make it later.
 
Baines, Gibbs, Cole, Shaw, Santon. Enrique is probably the 6th best left back in the league, or at least on par with the players below those I've mentioned. We need better but it will be good to have him back for the rest of the season.
 
Enrique isn't a world beater, but he's a very solid and dependable left back, we really missed that right now.
 
He's been very good this season mate. Arsenal have the second best defensive record in the league aswell.
 
Definitely missing the balance he gives us, he's pretty steady and unflustered as a fullback. Ok, so he does have his deficiencies and in the longterm we'd probably be looking to do better, but as far as the standards of our fullbacks go, we'd look far more defensively sound with Flanno and Enrique.

Any coincidence that Skrtel looked better AND we kept a clean sheet without Johnson?
He was playing injured so that's hardly fair.
 
Enrique adds another dimension to our attack which is never a bad thing and he rarely gets beaten around the outside.

His insane upper body strength and ability to hold wingers off has been missed.

He's no world beater, but he's a player who will go straight into the first 11 every week until the end of the season and improve his position 10 fold.

Everyone even his biggest detractors (Carragher, Ryan) should be delighted he's almost back.
 
There's hardly a plethora of boss LBs in this league. Baines is good but not brilliant (at all, he's english and hyped), Evra and Cole were boss but are rapidly waning, Gibbs, Kolarov and Clichy are decent at attacking but not great defensively. Shaw looks great, Santon and Rose seems decent and then you have RBs playing LB (Azcuilipueta) and a load of lower league shite.

Enrique isn't boss but he's up there with the rest of them
 
If we get Johnson back to fitness & Enrique playing with Sakho we may get some defensive solidity to go along with our goals.

Regardless of Mark's Johnson agenda, fact is Rodgers said he's been playing injured since he came back, and he's not the only one (I guess our squad really has been pushed to the limits).

IMHO our best back 4 is :
Johnson .... Toure ...... Sakho ...... Enrique ...... and that will get us 3rd/4th if they stay fit. With Flanno / Skrtel to back up / rotate in, I think LB can wait until the Summer.
 
There's hardly a plethora of boss LBs in this league.

There's hardly a plethora of boss fullbacks in world football, to be honest, because the players haven't quite developed as the role has. Full backs are becoming pivotal in terms of stretching the play because wide attackers now are being prized on their ability to get in the box rather than get to the by-line. A 'modern' full back is required to be both boss defensively and great going forward; in fact there's probably much more emphasis on the latter than the former. They've got to be quick, skillful, good at crossing, athletic, good at tackling and pressing. It's difficult to find a full back who can do all that well; normally there is a deficiency in one of the areas.

As an aside, the term 'modern' full back irritates me, because there have obviously been full backs in the past who have been as important to the attack as they have to the defence - especially in Liverpool's past, with Steve Nicol, Phil Neal, Rob Jones and Marcus Babbel springing to mind. And Stig Inge Bjornbye.
 
so did we change the role of our fullbacks to be slightly more defensive after we started playing with sterling , coutinho , sturridge and suarez in the team ? With sterling ahead of him, johnson didn't seem to be pushing far forward before his injury . Or is it just that johnson was carrying that injury and cissokho is poor ?

I tend to think it was the former , with the current attacking personnel and formation we don't need the fullbacks to provide the width as often . You could then debate whether we'd be better off with fullbacks who are first and foremost about defending , especially with our shaky defence.

The left side at the moment could cause us trouble even when enrique is back . Sturridge and suarez are dropping into the attacking left position but neither has half the defensive instinct of sterling on the other side (credit to sterling , it's a side of his game he's greatly improved ). We've been leaving the fullback quite exposed at times. It's pretty risky and could cost us soon .
 
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