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Kuyt, Carrol & Suarez in 1st team?

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Deadly is proving to be very hard to drop.

With the current system can Dirk survive, do we actually need a right winger if a quality lefty comes in?

His goals cover us nicely for if either striker has an off day.

I think he could stay in this team without becoming a squad player

It's Raul who is more likely to be spare if we get a left winger or is it a straight fight between Deadly and Ming?
 
Fuck knows, but irma a good position to be in if we do indeed strengthen in the summer
 
I'd prefer Dirk to be transformed back into a striker. Him and suarez work together brilliantly. Guess playing in the sdame league previously has given them something to work from. Kuyt just seemS to know what Luis is thinking an gets it right. Noticed the whole team have started fucking communicating with each other now.
 
If the team has decent movement and flexibility then it doesn't matter where you stick Dirk.

But if we're playing a dull, rigid 4-4-2 then it will severely expose his limitations.
 
Dirk's always been a fantastic player and an asset to the team. Double figures every season he's been here and a fantastic attitude. It's only the few numpties here who can't see that.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=44922.msg1314139#msg1314139 date=1302621862]
Deadly is proving to be very hard to drop.

With the current system can Dirk survive, do we actually need a right winger if a quality lefty comes in?

His goals cover us nicely for if either striker has an off day.

I think he could stay in this team without becoming a squad player

It's Raul who is more likely to be spare if we get a left winger or is it a straight fight between Deadly and Ming?

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Who really wants to drop him? You? The fans? Kenny? I think a lot of people presume that Kuyt will be dropped as soon as we get 'proper ' players in. You have to remember that this guy has been a constant feature for us since he signed and has been a constant fixture in a dutch team that got to the world cup final keeping many flair payers and class wingers (which many say we need badly) on the bench. He's a managers dream, loyal and hard working. I still maintain Dirk will be a starter next season without a shadow of a doubt even if he is sometimes frustrating to watch.
 
Kuyt's performances have been up and down the entire season. He's often great at home but poor away. Now we've got the result vs Man City in recent memory so I guess he's the best forward in world right now but I bet it'll be back to status quo in the next game.

Point is, we need another winger, preferably someone that is quicker and has better ball control and dribbling than Kuyt. I'm not saying that he isn't good enough to start next season but we must strive to get better players. Don't forget he's 31 years old in July.

If Dalglish insists on playing Kuyt it must be in a 4-3-3 formation. Question is, who do we sacrifice if everyone is fit?

So next season this could be our line up including the "done deal":

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Enrique

Meireles/Lucas Gerrard

Kuyt Suarez New winger

Carroll

Subs: Gulacsi, Skrtel, Aurelio, Lucas/Meireles, Spearing, Marveux, Ngog

BTW: We desperately need to strengthen the squad with quality midfielders.
 
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Kuyt's performances have been up and down the entire season. He's often great at home but poor away. Now we've got the result vs Man City in recent memory so I guess he's the best forward in world right now but I bet it'll be back to status quo in the next game.
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That's harsh in the extreme, alot of players are inconsistent or have purple patches, Rooney is one of the worst for it and he's fucking quality. Kuyt is fine away from home, when we have the right sort of players and balance. When the onus is on him more because of a lack of pace, his flaws become obvious, though I'm sure if we had a nippy player upfront, without the fight of players like Carroll or Kuyt up there, their flaws would too become just as apparent.

It's amazing, the people on here who are always the quickest to lay into him sound almost scathing giving their begrudged acknowledgement.

Anyway, it's not just the performance or result against City that has elevated him in any way, nor the hattrick against United (how many players can claim that?), it's the fact he continuously proves the doubters wrong by scoring important goals in important games.
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314220#msg1314220 date=1302632403]
Kuyt's performances have been up and down the entire season. He's often great at home but poor away. Now we've got the result vs Man City in recent memory so I guess he's the best forward in world right now but I bet it'll be back to status quo in the next game.
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That's harsh in the extreme, alot of players are inconsistent or have purple patches, Rooney is one of the worst for it and he's fucking quality. Kuyt is fine away from home, when we have the right sort of players and balance. When the onus is on him more because of a lack of pace, his flaws become obvious, though I'm sure if we had a nippy player upfront, without the fight of players like Carroll or Kuyt up there, their flaws would too become just as apparent.

It's amazing, the people on here who are always the quickest to lay into him sound almost scathing giving their begrudged acknowledgement.

Anyway, it's not just the performance or result against City that has elevated him in any way, nor the hattrick against United (how many players can claim that?), it's the fact he continuously proves the doubters wrong by scoring important goals in important games.
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I don't think it's harsh at all Mark. You said it he score s goals in the important matches but what about the not so important matches?
It might seem that I'm laying the blame on Kuyt for us losing in the EL or against WBA, but its's probably due to our midfield.
Consider this, how has Suarez played since he joined?
His rating has not dropped below 7/10 in any game regardless if it's WBA or Man U. Imagine if we had another player like that who could play on the wing.
 
Kuyt is the quinessential big game player.

He may give the ball away, have a crappy first touch but he always turns up, gives 100% and scores in the big games.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=44922.msg1314482#msg1314482 date=1302643930]
Kuyt is the quinessential big game player.

He may give the ball away, have a crappy first touch but he always turns up, gives 100% and scores in the big games.
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Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%. You'd probably do the same if you for some reason signed for Liverpool. It's the end result that counts and showing up in big games isn't enough.
 
--------------------------Carroll----------------------------
LW Legend----------------Luis------------------------Kuyt
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------Gerrard----------Raul---------------------

Replace Raul away with a top notch DM or replace Kuyt and play Luis right and Gerrard in the hole.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
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Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
 
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Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]Fuck me!! I mean fucking hell.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44922.msg1314500#msg1314500 date=1302644770]
What?
[/quote]Not you obv.

Its one of the most (un)Liverpool things ive ever seen written on here.

Things dun change.
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup
 
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[quote author=RolandG link=topic=44922.msg1314482#msg1314482 date=1302643930]
Kuyt is the quinessential big game player.

He may give the ball away, have a crappy first touch but he always turns up, gives 100% and scores in the big games.
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Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%. You'd probably do the same if you for some reason signed for Liverpool. It's the end result that counts and showing up in big games isn't enough.

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Yer chatting shit there mate. The effect of hodgeson's tactics caused a drop in performance in the entire team not just Kuyt. An thats what you've based your opinion on.
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup

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Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314505#msg1314505 date=1302644909]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44922.msg1314492#msg1314492 date=1302644487]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup

[/quote]


Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
[/quote]Hes deteriorating badly.
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314505#msg1314505 date=1302644909]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44922.msg1314492#msg1314492 date=1302644487]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup

[/quote]


Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
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He does it on purpose. It's even there in writing.
 
I'm looking forward to his next thread of the day. Titled fuckin "Does Rafa still like toast?" or "Does scoring a hat trick against Man u mean much really cos i dont", like, i'm only messin babe.
 
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314519#msg1314519 date=1302645919]
I'm looking forward to his next thread of the day. Titled fuckin "Does Rafa still like toast?" or "Does scoring a hat trick against Man u mean much really cos i dont", like, i'm only messin babe.
[/quote]I knew you were only messing after the first seven words you typed.
 
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314508#msg1314508 date=1302645065]



Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
[/quote]Jeez, I hope not 8)
 
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[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314508#msg1314508 date=1302645065]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314505#msg1314505 date=1302644909]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44922.msg1314492#msg1314492 date=1302644487]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup

[/quote]


Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
[/quote]Hes deteriorating badly.
[/quote]
It's a cuntish way to put it but...
Am I not right? What has effort brought us these past years?
We need quality. Fuck effort.
We can either buy the Ronaldo or Nani type players or we can settle for Warnock and Nolan who will give us 110% every game.
 
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[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314508#msg1314508 date=1302645065]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314505#msg1314505 date=1302644909]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44922.msg1314492#msg1314492 date=1302644487]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup

[/quote]


Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
[/quote]Hes deteriorating badly.
[/quote]
It's a cuntish way to put it but...
Am I not right? What has effort brought us these past years?
We need quality. Fuck effort.
We can either buy the Ronaldo or Nani type players or we can settle for Warnock and Nolan who will give us 110% every game.

[/quote]No youre not right. Youre naming one of maybe 3 players we have who ALWAYS give 100% and intimating that its the root cause of our problems. Youre a fucking idiot.
 
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314519#msg1314519 date=1302645919]
I'm looking forward to his next thread of the day. Titled fuckin "Does Rafa still like toast?" or "Does scoring a hat trick against Man u mean much really cos i dont", like, i'm only messin babe.
[/quote]
Ay, you can rip on my posts, BUT YOU CAN NOT TAKE AWAY MY THREAD STARTIIIIIIING!!!!!
 
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[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314508#msg1314508 date=1302645065]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314505#msg1314505 date=1302644909]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44922.msg1314492#msg1314492 date=1302644487]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44922.msg1314488#msg1314488 date=1302644243]

Can't give a flying fuck about giving a 100%.
[/quote]

Giving 100% is what Liverpool Football Club's all about (yes, besides winning trophies)
[/quote]

2007 100% Effort - End result: nothing
2008 100% Effort - " "
2009 100% Effort - " "
2010 100% Effort - " "
2011 80% Effort + a couple of asshole signing - End result: League, FA cup, League cup

[/quote]


Can someone get banned for being really jarg?
[/quote]Hes deteriorating badly.
[/quote]
It's a cuntish way to put it but...
Am I not right? What has effort brought us these past years?
We need quality. Fuck effort.
We can either buy the Ronaldo or Nani type players or we can settle for Warnock and Nolan who will give us 110% every game.

[/quote]No youre not right. Youre naming one of maybe 3 players we have who ALWAYS give 100% and intimating that its the root cause of our problems. Youre a fucking idiot.
[/quote]
You're an idiot.
 
[quote author=QUADRASPAZ link=topic=44922.msg1314519#msg1314519 date=1302645919]
I'm looking forward to his next thread of the day. Titled fuckin "Does Rafa still like toast?" or "Does scoring a hat trick against Man u mean much really cos i dont", like, i'm only messin babe.
[/quote]

*carves a 50ft Monty Python "LOL"*
 
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