Klopp ready to sell Sturridge
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I didn't believe for one second that he failed his medical and still don't.
Is there a 'You don't simply fail a Liverpool medical' meme?
The club only has third party, fire or theft. You would need to either set fire to him or have him kidnapped.
Suspect it's kick up the backside for studge, as it would make no sense to sell him no when he nearly fit and euros ahead.
He's always nearly fit...apart from when he's not fit. He's never fit is my point.
We're a year and a half too late to sell him. Unless we get 25m, and we have someone of similar talents lined up, we should just hold and hope that we can get enough games out of him, because he'll still score when fit.
Think BR put up with his "I'm fit" statements and that in turn makes studge seem untouchable and will be forever indulged.
Klopp clearly has no time so see it as more as the club releasing the story to kick him up the back side.
Quality player if/when fit.
Amazing, this is another genius bit of Klopp psychology! Another 'kick up the backside'!
And such versatility of methods! First of all he implies Sturridge is a bit of a wimp, and that much of his issues are in his head and he must learn to tell the difference between manageable pain and real pain. Man up!
Then he returns, is injured again, and Klopp the genius says that next time he won't allow Sturridge to dictate his own fitness - even though surely that's what your medical team is for - and when he's telling everyone he is ready, Klopp won't listen and HE will decide when Sturridge is really ready. He's too keen and just gets injured again!
Now he's got tired of this collective failure of entirely contradictory messaging, and is just going to sell him. But this is also in fact, just yet another facet of Klopp's genius psychology at work, with the infamous last chance or you're out kick up the backside technique.
Or perhaps people could just shut the fuck up and stop trying to claim that whatever he fucking says, or even doesn't say, is some kind of brilliant psychological device, and he's just another manager talking about things, often pointlessly and to no discernible effect
And such versatility of methods! First of all he implies Sturridge is a bit of a wimp, and that much of his issues are in his head and he must learn to tell the difference between manageable pain and real pain. Man up!
Then he returns, is injured again, and Klopp the genius says that next time he won't allow Sturridge to dictate his own fitness - even though surely that's what your medical team is for - and when he's telling everyone he is ready, Klopp won't listen and HE will decide when Sturridge is really ready. He's too keen and just gets injured again!
Now he's got tired of this collective failure of entirely contradictory messaging, and is just going to sell him. But this is also in fact, just yet another facet of Klopp's genius psychology at work, with the infamous last chance or you're out kick up the backside technique.
Or perhaps people could just shut the fuck up and stop trying to claim that whatever he fucking says, or even doesn't say, is some kind of brilliant psychological device, and he's just another manager talking about things, often pointlessly and to no discernible effect
Yeah that pissed me off.
One week... He won't play because he says he feels something
Next week... We won't let him play just because he says he's fit.
The only consistent thing in that is 'I don't believe him no matter what he says'. And that's shit.
World class.
If he had the same injury record as most players he'd be worth in excess of 70m in today's market. He's that good.
Its not that though. Sturridge was given a 9 day "pre season programme" and was told those days had to be concecutive in training or something. He hasnt been able to train for 9 days straight because of some minor problems along the way. Which means that he would have broken down at once if he had been included in a match squad now.
Klopp is doing the right thing as far as I'm concerned, even if Studge says himself he's fit.
Studge hasnt had full pre season since 2011 btw.
We have our first resident Anti-Klopp. And this genius relies mainly on hacks' interpretations of Klopp comments, and actions, and unconfirmed actions, to denounce his foe.
Well if that was the case then why was Klopp insinuating that his pain wasn't real in the first instance? He changed his mind and was inconsistent and that's ok... but we are allowed to notice.
I would imagine Arsenal, Spurs and Man C would be interested at that price. They would not rely on him that much, giving him time for his rest and play him when truly fit or even as an impact sub.
He could be the difference to winning the CL or even the premier league if they could get him to play half of the available matches. I would think it is a worthwhile gamble.
He could be the difference to winning the CL or even the premier league if they could get him to play half of the available matches. I would think it is a worthwhile gamble.
Doesn't that also make the case for keeping him? If he's capable of making that much difference to a side...and I believe he is...shouldn't we be keeping him and trying to sort his head out?
Klopp wasn't saying or insinuating that. He was saying (quite clearly, I thought) that not all pain is the same, that you can play through some of it and that Sturridge hadn't yet learned to tell the difference. That being the case, it's as likely that the player could underestimate his difficulty as that he could do the opposite.
We couldn't afford to wait for him, for obvious reasons. The other 3 teams can.
But won't.
I know everyone will back Klopp since he's been deified and everything but the same everyone were in macca's mental strength thread backing Klopp for insinuating it was all in Studge's head, he should man up and play through the pain. Then Klopp says he's not allowed to play when he says he's ready.
We agree that Klopp is saying Studge hasn't got a clue no matter what he says. We disagree that Klopp is right.
In the first instance, Studge said he felt some "discomfort". The scans and x-rays showed that nothing was wrong. Thats why Klopp made that pain remark I guess.
In the second instance. Studge is told to be involved in training for 9 days straight but cant. Feels he is ready but still hasnt fulfilled the mini pre season like he was supposed to.
Cant see anything wrong with Klopp saying he isnt ready when these minor knocks and problems hamper his training.
The reasoning for Klopps thinking surley is, and he has said this aswell, to prepare Studge with the intensity that is needed. Seeing as Studge hasnt done that, then he isnt ready either.
Klopp, like all of us, wants him to be fit and for a longer periode of time.
This is the right way for that to happen.
In the second instance. Studge is told to be involved in training for 9 days straight but cant. Feels he is ready but still hasnt fulfilled the mini pre season like he was supposed to.
Cant see anything wrong with Klopp saying he isnt ready when these minor knocks and problems hamper his training.
The reasoning for Klopps thinking surley is, and he has said this aswell, to prepare Studge with the intensity that is needed. Seeing as Studge hasnt done that, then he isnt ready either.
Klopp, like all of us, wants him to be fit and for a longer periode of time.
This is the right way for that to happen.
We were talking about buying a German winger who seems to be out most of the season. Studge when fit is world class.
yeah one article means little. More than
I'm not anti-Klopp. I wanted him as manager in summer and was delighted we got him. But he's not a magic genius whose every comment is some kind of psychological masterclass in motivation.
It's amazing the way Klopp has manipulated Brendan into thinking that he's not amazing at manipulating people into thinking things.
You're good. I agree with this and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying.
No, you are, because, if you weren't, you'd show caution about sources before leaping to a conclusion, and you don't, so you are.
I'm not the one reposting every utterance about Sturridge, regardless of its actual content, source or meaning (or even if it's entirely contradictory) and claiming it's Klopp 'putting his foot down' or 'not taking any more of his bullshit' or 'giving him a kick up the backside'
In fact, I haven't posted anything, from any source, because it's futile.
What I have done is respond to other people posting a variety of Sturridge comments from Klopp, and pointed out what would appear to be obvious.
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