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Kenny Dalglish moves towards permanent manager's role at Liverpool

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Why though?

Unless of course you're of the opinion that somebody better might become available, i really don't see the point in waiting.
 
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Why though?

Unless of course you're of the opinion that somebody better might become available, i really don't see the point in waiting.
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Me Neither
 
Whatever about the arguments for giving Kenny a contract now or later either way I doubt he will get a stoop or be tempted by a different job offer.
The same can't necessarily be said for Steve Clarke, who seems to have had a very positive effect on the first team since his arrival, and is I believe also on a contract till the end of the season. I think it would be prudent to sign him up sooner rather than later than run the risk of some other club, Chelsea maybe, tempting him with a lucrative offer.
 
I'd suggest that with DC already looking to set up some of our summer signings, the players involved would like to know exactly who they'll be playing under. Plus it would give us that extra little bit of stability, something we've been missing for quite a while.
 
Club is becoming more and more stable with the new owners and the way they want to do things. Kenny, as suggested by The Count, isn't really going anywhere (Steve Clarke, however, might be tempted by another club). The players have a great opportunity now with King Kenny and should just be concentrating getting the most from him for the next game.

LFC have time, waiting till the end of the season isn't going to be too tragic since it's not long till then.
 
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Club is becoming more and more stable with the new owners and the way they want to do things. Kenny, as suggested by The Count, isn't really going anywhere (Steve Clarke, however, might be tempted by another club). The players have a great opportunity now with King Kenny and should just be concentrating getting the most from him for the next game.

LFC have time, waiting till the end of the season isn't going to be too tragic since it's not long till then.
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I doubt Kenny would have taken Clarke on if he wasnt willing to commit to the long term. Plus, I guarantee you Kenny is the type of boss you wanna have, especially after some of the characters he's worked under.
 
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[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=44000.msg1299385#msg1299385 date=1300035749]
Club is becoming more and more stable with the new owners and the way they want to do things. Kenny, as suggested by The Count, isn't really going anywhere (Steve Clarke, however, might be tempted by another club). The players have a great opportunity now with King Kenny and should just be concentrating getting the most from him for the next game.

LFC have time, waiting till the end of the season isn't going to be too tragic since it's not long till then.
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I doubt Kenny would have taken Clarke on if he wasnt willing to commit to the long term. Plus, I guarantee you Kenny is the type of boss you wanna have, especially after some of the characters he's worked under.
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Definitely, Kenny is the manager you'd want to lead LFC but why the rush from making him caretaker to permanent?

It seems a more distrust/fear/concern from posters that FSG will appoint someone else but is that a bad thing? It means that manager will be even better than King Kenny which isn't a bad thing, is it? For the record I will say I don't think there is a better manager more suited that King Kenny but FSG do seem to know what they are doing.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44000.msg1299394#msg1299394 date=1300037922]
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=44000.msg1299385#msg1299385 date=1300035749]
Club is becoming more and more stable with the new owners and the way they want to do things. Kenny, as suggested by The Count, isn't really going anywhere (Steve Clarke, however, might be tempted by another club). The players have a great opportunity now with King Kenny and should just be concentrating getting the most from him for the next game.

LFC have time, waiting till the end of the season isn't going to be too tragic since it's not long till then.
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I doubt Kenny would have taken Clarke on if he wasnt willing to commit to the long term. Plus, I guarantee you Kenny is the type of boss you wanna have, especially after some of the characters he's worked under.
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But if Clarke were to get a lucrative offer from another club, and there was still some doubt over whether Kenny would get the main job long term, then he might be tempted.
 
Are we all assuming that the "Express" report of Clarke being on a three-and-a-half-year deal isn't true then?
 
I would like to believe that any offer Clarke receives, he'll discuss with Kenny. That's the measure of the man's respect for Kenny.

Read his interview on appointment, it tells you how he feels about Kenny and coming to a club like Liverpool.

King Kenny getting a 2 year contract is half of what he wanted if rumours are to be believed. However, if he wins the league within those 2 years, you can be sure that he'll get an extension.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44000.msg1299406#msg1299406 date=1300039256]
Are we all assuming that the "Express" report of Clarke being on a three-and-a-half-year deal isn't true then?
[/quote] I dunno JJ.
I am sure I read earlier that he is on a contract till the end of the season just like Kenny.
This is the cause of my concern.
 
It is nothing to wait around for. Wait for a better option i read. Who is this better options? NAme a list of 1 name that is a better option than Kenny Dalglish to run our football club for the next few years? Wizzard of Oz? Jesus Christ? I doubt any of them would bring the club together as he has.... And who should find this miracle person anyway?

It is nothing to think about. Give the man a deal sooner rather than later....

And for people saying money isnt the issue. Well it might not be the main issue... But for people accepting that a footballers career is short and he is to establish a fortune during his playing years, King Kenny is probably entering his last job. I think he should be rewarded well, and he should be demanding. His career is coming to an end.
 
Liverpool owner John W Henry: We have not begun discussions to appoint Kenny Dalglish as permanent boss
We have only spoken of when the discussions may take place, says owner

Liverpool owner John W Henry has dismissed reports that Kenny Dalglish has been offered the manager's job on a permanent basis.

The Reds boss was brought in as caretaker after Roy Hodgson's ill-fated reign came to an end, and was subsequently confirmed in the role until the end of this season.

And the improvement shown since the Scot's appointment coupled with being a fan favourite has seen him being touted for the job beyond the summer.

There had been reports claiming that the former Blackburn, Newcastle and Celtic boss had been offered a two-year deal to remain in charge at Anfield, but owner Henry insists that things have not progressed that far.

"The only discussion we’ve had has been with Kenny and that was solely concerning when we should begin discussions,†Henry told The Telegraph.

"I wouldn’t anticipate any further comments until such discussions have commenced and we have something to announce. Any reports until then are purely speculation."
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8391612/Liverpool-owners-John-W-Henry-and-Tom-Werner-open-talks-with-Kenny-Dalglish-over-full-time-contract.html

John W Henry and Tom Werner, principal backers of the Fenway Sports Group consortium which owns the club, arrived on Merseyside on Thursday and, despite watching Liverpool's limp elimination from the Europa League at the hands of Braga, formally started negotiations with Dalglish on Friday over a two-year deal.

The 59 year-old, who replaced Roy Hodgson in January, is believed to want a four-year deal, but is unlikely to reject a post he has craved since calling time on his first spell at Anfield in 1991.

Dalglish has required just 14 games – of which he has lost four – to convince Henry and Werner that he is the man to whom they should entrust the task of rebuilding the club, which is testament to how quickly and efficiently he has stabilised Anfield after 18 months of chaos.

When FSG arrived at Anfield in October, buying the club for £300 million and ending the unhappy reign of Tom Hicks and George Gillett, they favoured replacing Hodgson at the end of their first campaign with a young manager, used to working under a sporting director, around whom they could build a new dynasty.

Hodgson's failure to arrest Liverpool's early-season slide led to his departure, so Dalglish was initially appointed purely to ensure the club ended the season in relative calm. The master plan remained the same.

The search for the right candidate to replace the Scot continued, with FSG examining the credentials of a number of European managers. Andre Villas-Boas, of FC Porto, Jurgen Klopp, who has guided Borussia Dortmund to the top of the Bundesliga, and Marseille's Didier Deschamps are all known to have been considered.

But, despite lingering concerns over how viable a prospect he is in the long term – as evidenced by the length of the contract on offer – it has become increasingly clear to FSG that dismissing Dalglish was simply not an option.

The Scot has overseen victories over both Manchester United and Chelsea, while Liverpool's form has been such that a top-six finish seems guaranteed, though the vagaries of the FA Cup draw means that they may miss out on a place in Europe for the first time in more than a decade.

FSG had hoped to wait for as long as possible before confirming Dalglish's appointment – as well as that of his first-team coach, Steve Clarke – but Henry and Werner recognise the need to act quickly if they are to rebuild the playing squad this summer.

After overseeing the recruitment of Luis Suárez and Andy Carroll on transfer deadline day – effectively spending the money raised by the sales of Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel – FSG are expected to sanction a substantial foray into the transfer market this summer.

That will be shaped by Dalglish's wishes, though he will have to work alongside director of football strategy Damien Comolli as he looks to reshape his squad with as many as six new faces.

The Frenchman, appointed to oversee recruitment, will need to live up to the reputation that brought him to Anfield if he is to attract top-class talent to a team who may not be able even to offer the enticement of European football.

However, goalkeeper Pepe Reina is yet to admit defeat in the chase to return to continental combat, which used to be regarded as routine at Anfield.

"There are still nine games to play and we still have a chance of getting that fifth position," said the Spaniard.

"There's no doubt it's difficult with no Europe, because we are so used to watching Liverpool in midweek and those European nights at Anfield are really famous."
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Dalglish doing `very well'

Liverpool owner John W Henry remained coy about the future of Kenny Dalglish but said the Scot was doing "very well" after watching the Reds win 2-0 at Sunderland on Sunday.

Dalglish returned to the Anfield club's hotseat in January in place Roy Hodgson, on a deal until the end of the season, and the case for the 60-year-old to be handed the job on a permanent basis was only strengthened at the Stadium of Light.

Henry refused to go into details regarding discussions with Dalglish, saying that was not `the Liverpool way', but seemed pleased with the progress being made on the field.

When asked about a new contract, Henry said in the Daily Telegraph: "What is going on in that regard is private.

"It is something called `the Liverpool way' and you do these things behind closed doors.

"I am not going to talk about these things. He has done very well."
 
It's actually pretty scary how quickly the Hooded Claw has picked up on Liverpool's quirks and practices.
 
lfc owner John W Henry: "Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier"
 
[quote author=peekay link=topic=44000.msg1303162#msg1303162 date=1300712749]
lfc owner John W Henry: "Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier"

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hahahaha, how cutting.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=44000.msg1303325#msg1303325 date=1300728567]
[quote author=peekay link=topic=44000.msg1303162#msg1303162 date=1300712749]
lfc owner John W Henry: "Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier"

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hahahaha, how cutting.
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I know I'm getting proper whooshed here, but did he mean Torres or Woy?
 
It was deffo Torres, LOL

"Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier"


hahahaha, well-in John Henry
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=44000.msg1277224#msg1277224 date=1296738227]
I've been thinking of the mysterious alchemy involved in finding the right manager.

Rafa had many of the attributes, tactical nous, a keen eye for the strengths and weaknesses of his players, a passion for the club that the fans largely recognised, and thus he earned the adoration of many kopites, perhaps more than he really deserved in the end. That belief in the manager is crucial to this club, and the bond of loyalty and respect for the manager was ultimately severed during Hodgson's hapless tenure. Starting his appointment by repeatedly casting aspersions on the job done by his predecessor wasn't only tactless, it showed a complete lack of political nous, something that would be a feature of numerous blundering engagements with the media. He wanted the club to shrink to the limits of his ability and ambition. Liverpool were a faded force in his eyes, and it was about time we all dealt with it.

Kenny's appointment has been right because he believes in the greatness of this club, and won't place a limit on its aspiration. His legendary status has blown away a cancer that has been living in our club for years. No not El Cunto, but the divisive intrigue that developed under Rafa and divided not only the manager from other club administrators, but ultimately, the dressing room too, is gone. Kenny has the respect of everyone at the club. He has clearly worked well with Comolli too, and it seems, has a serious input into the players targeted by the director of football. A relationship that could have been torturous under others, has blossomed under Kenny.

All in all there has been a strange calmness that has come with Kenny. He has come in with the club facing the disastrous prospect of relegation, a disenchanted Anfield crowd staying away from games for the first time in many years, and the heartbreaking and shocking transfer request of the club's biggest star. All has been handled calmly, without fuss or gossip, in, dare I say it, the Liverpool Way. A club seemingly in tatters is finally pulling together, the triumvirate of supporters, manager and board are united, for the first time in a long time. The football has got better, as it had to have done, the embers of confidence are growing in our players, that is clear as day, and with key new signings things look set to improve. I think he's not just our man for now, but for the foreseeable future.
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Liverpool are flying under Kenny Dalglish, but their American owners are in danger of clipping the liver bird's wings.

Fenway Sports Group are new to football. Thanks to old-hand Dalglish, however, they have gone from owning a club in danger of relegation to title-winning form.

The question is no longer whether Dalglish should be confirmed as permanent manager. Instead, it is his precise role that FSG must get right if Liverpool are to have a hope in hell of knocking Man United off their perch.

Listen up, across the pond: Kenny Dalglish must be Damien Comolli's boss, not the other way round.

Before Dalglish saved their bacon this season, the Americans rushed to appoint Comolli as Anfield's director of football in a commendable attempt to apply a long-term strategy to squad-building (£4.5m for Christian Poulsen, anyone?).

The problem FSG now have is that Comolli is tasked with signing players for Liverpool, but Dalglish will want the final say on which players are brought in.

Quite rightly, because there is no way Comolli is a better judge of a footballer than King Kenny and it is Dalglish who must manage the players and whose neck will be on the block if they don't deliver the goods.

Dalglish has seen and done it all. He's played under two of the greatest football managers in Jock Stein and Bob Paisley. He's won titles and cups galore as a manager with Liverpool, Blackburn and Celtic. He's got close to 40 years' experience of winning at the very highest level. There is nothing Damien Comolli can tell Kenny Dalglish about football.

All managers need help, whether it be delegating coaching duties, scouting or the nitty gritty of contract negotiation. Sir Alex Ferguson won't be found on the training pitch every day or jetting off to scout players every week – Damien Comolli can certainly help Dalglish in this respect – but you can bet he has the final say on all football matters at Old Trafford.

FSG are right in their attempt to have a coherent transfer policy and it will always be up to them whether they splash the cash. What they need to do immediately is recognise that the man to tell them which players to sign is Mr Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish.

So come on John Henry, give King Kenny that contract and tell Comolli who is the boss at Anfield.
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