Kenny Dalglish moves towards permanent manager's role at Liverpool
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[size=12pt]Kenny Dalglish finally poised to sign deal as he targets Ashley Young and Stewart Downing
Liverpool are expected to confirm Kenny Dalglish’s appointment as permanent manager in the next 10 days.[/size]
By Rory Smith 11:00PM BST 10 May 2011
That will allow the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, to begin to clarify their plans for this summer’s transfer market. Liverpool have emerged as favourites to sign the Aston Villa winger Ashley Young for around £12 million and are also believed to be tracking his club and international team-mate Stewart Downing.
By the time Liverpool face both players at Villa Park on the final day of the campaign, the long-running and increasingly baffling saga concerning Dalglish is likely to be at an end.
Sam Kennedy, FSG’s president, confirmed as long ago as April 9 that talks with the Scot over making the temporary post he took over in January permanent were already under way, reward for the remarkable turnaround in Liverpool’s performances under his tenure.
Despite the dire warnings of Jose Mourinho at the start of the season that Liverpool were getting “worse, worse and worse†and the assertion by his predecessor Roy Hodgson that “95 per cent†of observers would agree with the Portuguese in November, Dalglish has taken the club from the obscurity of 13th place in the Premier League on Jan 8 to within touching distance of a place in the Europa League following Monday night’s 5-2 demolition of Fulham at Craven Cottage.
Though his record of 10 wins, three draws and three defeats in the Premier League is hardly flawless, that he has garnered more points than any team other than Chelsea since taking charge of a side mired in mid-table shows the scale of his achievement.
Such an impressive record only makes the delay in announcing his inevitable ascension to the permanent manager’s post he vacated in February 1991 more inexplicable.
FSG promised upon Dalglish’s appointment that they would conduct a thorough search for the best man to lead the club forward on a permanent basis; though director of football Damien Comolli insisted then that the Scot’s claims would be considered, Dalglish hardly fits the profile FSG had in mind for their first managerial appointment when they took over at Anfield.
They were keen on a young, ambitious manager used to working in the sort of structure they were quick to implement at Liverpool, alongside a director of football, and examined the credentials of the likes of André Villas Boas, at Porto, Borussia Dortmund’s Jurgen Klopp and Marseille manager Didier Deschamps.
Dalglish, though, has enjoyed such success that all debate has been rendered irrelevant. Even Liverpool’s fans have proved as much: since Dalglish took charge, their volume has increased by 40 per cent to 97 decibels, according to the site fanchants.com.
In an ideal world, the Scot, cast from management’s old school, would probably like a longer contract with greater power over recruitment than the club’s owners would willingly afford him, but his results are unarguable.
“We have been flying since Christmas,†said defender Jamie Carragher. “The manager has come in and made a big difference.
"Whatever he has done has worked. But the players coming in have made a huge difference too. [Luis] Suárez is superb. If he keeps playing like that he will be a bigger legend than I will ever be.â€
The Uruguayan – now on five goals for his new club – will be joined in the summer by more than half a dozen players, once Dalglish’s appointment is confirmed, with the Aston Villa duo, as well as Bolton’s Gary Cahill, Newcastle’s José Enrique and Sylvain Marveaux, of Rennes, believed to be high on Comolli and Dalglish’s agenda.
Liverpool are expected to confirm Kenny Dalglish’s appointment as permanent manager in the next 10 days.[/size]
By Rory Smith 11:00PM BST 10 May 2011
That will allow the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, to begin to clarify their plans for this summer’s transfer market. Liverpool have emerged as favourites to sign the Aston Villa winger Ashley Young for around £12 million and are also believed to be tracking his club and international team-mate Stewart Downing.
By the time Liverpool face both players at Villa Park on the final day of the campaign, the long-running and increasingly baffling saga concerning Dalglish is likely to be at an end.
Sam Kennedy, FSG’s president, confirmed as long ago as April 9 that talks with the Scot over making the temporary post he took over in January permanent were already under way, reward for the remarkable turnaround in Liverpool’s performances under his tenure.
Despite the dire warnings of Jose Mourinho at the start of the season that Liverpool were getting “worse, worse and worse†and the assertion by his predecessor Roy Hodgson that “95 per cent†of observers would agree with the Portuguese in November, Dalglish has taken the club from the obscurity of 13th place in the Premier League on Jan 8 to within touching distance of a place in the Europa League following Monday night’s 5-2 demolition of Fulham at Craven Cottage.
Though his record of 10 wins, three draws and three defeats in the Premier League is hardly flawless, that he has garnered more points than any team other than Chelsea since taking charge of a side mired in mid-table shows the scale of his achievement.
Such an impressive record only makes the delay in announcing his inevitable ascension to the permanent manager’s post he vacated in February 1991 more inexplicable.
FSG promised upon Dalglish’s appointment that they would conduct a thorough search for the best man to lead the club forward on a permanent basis; though director of football Damien Comolli insisted then that the Scot’s claims would be considered, Dalglish hardly fits the profile FSG had in mind for their first managerial appointment when they took over at Anfield.
They were keen on a young, ambitious manager used to working in the sort of structure they were quick to implement at Liverpool, alongside a director of football, and examined the credentials of the likes of André Villas Boas, at Porto, Borussia Dortmund’s Jurgen Klopp and Marseille manager Didier Deschamps.
Dalglish, though, has enjoyed such success that all debate has been rendered irrelevant. Even Liverpool’s fans have proved as much: since Dalglish took charge, their volume has increased by 40 per cent to 97 decibels, according to the site fanchants.com.
In an ideal world, the Scot, cast from management’s old school, would probably like a longer contract with greater power over recruitment than the club’s owners would willingly afford him, but his results are unarguable.
“We have been flying since Christmas,†said defender Jamie Carragher. “The manager has come in and made a big difference.
"Whatever he has done has worked. But the players coming in have made a huge difference too. [Luis] Suárez is superb. If he keeps playing like that he will be a bigger legend than I will ever be.â€
The Uruguayan – now on five goals for his new club – will be joined in the summer by more than half a dozen players, once Dalglish’s appointment is confirmed, with the Aston Villa duo, as well as Bolton’s Gary Cahill, Newcastle’s José Enrique and Sylvain Marveaux, of Rennes, believed to be high on Comolli and Dalglish’s agenda.
I'm not a huge Young fan but £12m would do nicely.
They don't mention merchandise there, apparently Kenny's name sells more merchandise than any player we have. That has to be a factor in their decision making, like it or not.
12m for young would be an extremely good deal IMO. Don't want Downing.
12m for young would be an extremely good deal IMO. Don't want Downing.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44000.msg1330811#msg1330811 date=1305068800]
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Worse than Lennon?
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Worse than Lennon?
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44000.msg1330811#msg1330811 date=1305068800]
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Indeed yet people seem to be under the impression he's a good crosser of the ball. He's so not unless it's from a dead ball situation.
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Indeed yet people seem to be under the impression he's a good crosser of the ball. He's so not unless it's from a dead ball situation.
That might be true, but service doesn't seem a particularly weak point for us of late, with Suarez, Johnson and Ming firing the ammunition.
What we do lack is someone with genuine pace to get in behind a defence, particularly so we won't feel Suarez' absence so hard should he be unavailable and Young can provide that. I'm not exactly overawed as I think there might be better options available on the continent, but he is a good player who could blossom further in a good attacking side.
I also think Downing is ridiculously underrated.
What we do lack is someone with genuine pace to get in behind a defence, particularly so we won't feel Suarez' absence so hard should he be unavailable and Young can provide that. I'm not exactly overawed as I think there might be better options available on the continent, but he is a good player who could blossom further in a good attacking side.
I also think Downing is ridiculously underrated.
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=44000.msg1330892#msg1330892 date=1305101011]
Please don't shoot me but someone told me that the King has been Diagnosed with early stages of Alzeimers.
I feel wrong posting it, hopefully no one else has heard it thus proving it a loads of bollocks.
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No fucking way.
Please don't shoot me but someone told me that the King has been Diagnosed with early stages of Alzeimers.
I feel wrong posting it, hopefully no one else has heard it thus proving it a loads of bollocks.
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No fucking way.
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=44000.msg1330892#msg1330892 date=1305101011]
Please don't shoot me but someone told me that the King has been Diagnosed with early stages of Alzeimers.
I feel wrong posting it, hopefully no one else has heard it thus proving it a loads of bollocks.
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Sounds like bollocks to me. There's no way he'd be taking the managers job if he knew that mate. Surely.
Please don't shoot me but someone told me that the King has been Diagnosed with early stages of Alzeimers.
I feel wrong posting it, hopefully no one else has heard it thus proving it a loads of bollocks.
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Sounds like bollocks to me. There's no way he'd be taking the managers job if he knew that mate. Surely.
Yeah, that story's bullshit. Not only would he not take the job, they wouldn't give it to him & he wouldn't be in charge now either.
Bitter blueshite rumour that one I reckon.
Bitter blueshite rumour that one I reckon.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44000.msg1330895#msg1330895 date=1305101747]
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=44000.msg1330892#msg1330892 date=1305101011]
Please don't shoot me but someone told me that the King has been Diagnosed with early stages of Alzeimers.
I feel wrong posting it, hopefully no one else has heard it thus proving it a loads of bollocks.
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Sounds like bollocks to me. There's no way he'd be taking the managers job if he knew that mate. Surely.
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This is surely a classic from the Liverpool rumour factory. When some reason for Kenny's delayed appointment is needed, expect a flurry of rumours to fill the void. I think and hope it is bollocks.
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=44000.msg1330892#msg1330892 date=1305101011]
Please don't shoot me but someone told me that the King has been Diagnosed with early stages of Alzeimers.
I feel wrong posting it, hopefully no one else has heard it thus proving it a loads of bollocks.
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Sounds like bollocks to me. There's no way he'd be taking the managers job if he knew that mate. Surely.
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This is surely a classic from the Liverpool rumour factory. When some reason for Kenny's delayed appointment is needed, expect a flurry of rumours to fill the void. I think and hope it is bollocks.
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[quote author=Krump link=topic=44000.msg1330811#msg1330811 date=1305068800]
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Worse than Lennon?
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Definitely. When Lennon's actually been picked this season, his final ball hasn't been bad as a rule.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44000.msg1330811#msg1330811 date=1305068800]
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Worse than Lennon?
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Definitely. When Lennon's actually been picked this season, his final ball hasn't been bad as a rule.
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[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=44000.msg1330812#msg1330812 date=1305068930]
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44000.msg1330811#msg1330811 date=1305068800]
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Worse than Lennon?
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Definitely. When Lennon's actually been picked this season, his final ball hasn't been bad as a rule.
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He has two assists this season.
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=44000.msg1330812#msg1330812 date=1305068930]
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44000.msg1330811#msg1330811 date=1305068800]
Villa can keep them tbh. I don't think downing syndrome is going to help much and young has the worst final ball ever spoken about in pubs.
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Worse than Lennon?
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Definitely. When Lennon's actually been picked this season, his final ball hasn't been bad as a rule.
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He has two assists this season.
So the only decent final ball is one which leads to a goal?
After seeing the confidence in the team since Kenny took over I really dont care who comes in coz he's gonna turn them into boss players.........ALL OF THEM!! 8) 8) 8)
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44000.msg1330911#msg1330911 date=1305103593]
So the only decent final ball is one which leads to a goal?
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Of course not, but I don't you think you can really ignore assists as a means of assessing the quality of a final ball. It's about the most revealing stat available in that respect. Unless you can find one for 'glaring opportunities missed from Lennon's glorious final balls'.
Alternatively, if you're not a fan of stats, you could just watch him. He's an incredibly frustrating player, and until he grows a full eyebrow, I suspect he'll remain that way.
So the only decent final ball is one which leads to a goal?
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Of course not, but I don't you think you can really ignore assists as a means of assessing the quality of a final ball. It's about the most revealing stat available in that respect. Unless you can find one for 'glaring opportunities missed from Lennon's glorious final balls'.
Alternatively, if you're not a fan of stats, you could just watch him. He's an incredibly frustrating player, and until he grows a full eyebrow, I suspect he'll remain that way.
I wouldn't disagree with much of that as it happens, though underlying it is IMHO an over-reliance on assists stats which underrates the improvement Lennon's shown lately. He's frustrating precisely because he can and does get it right at times, and can then be very tricky to stop.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44000.msg1330915#msg1330915 date=1305103760]
He's never really progressed and built on his early promise.
He never quite looks like he's in control of the ball when he runs at people - it always looks as though it's just about to get away from him. I suppose he's a little like SWP in that respect.
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Again, I'd agree with much of this. My own view is that SWP looks less in control than Lennon does, but I doubt that's of much significance really.
He's never really progressed and built on his early promise.
He never quite looks like he's in control of the ball when he runs at people - it always looks as though it's just about to get away from him. I suppose he's a little like SWP in that respect.
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Again, I'd agree with much of this. My own view is that SWP looks less in control than Lennon does, but I doubt that's of much significance really.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44000.msg1330992#msg1330992 date=1305108122]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44000.msg1330915#msg1330915 date=1305103760]
He's never really progressed and built on his early promise.
He never quite looks like he's in control of the ball when he runs at people - it always looks as though it's just about to get away from him. I suppose he's a little like SWP in that respect.
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Again, I'd agree with much of this. My own view is that SWP looks less in control than Lennon does, but I doubt that's of much significance really.
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Lennon, SWP and Walcott are nothing more that speed merchants in my opinion. That's the double edged sword of pace, you seldom learn to actually play the game. Raheem & Sterling are better than them now. He just lacks physical maturity and experience.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44000.msg1330915#msg1330915 date=1305103760]
He's never really progressed and built on his early promise.
He never quite looks like he's in control of the ball when he runs at people - it always looks as though it's just about to get away from him. I suppose he's a little like SWP in that respect.
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Again, I'd agree with much of this. My own view is that SWP looks less in control than Lennon does, but I doubt that's of much significance really.
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Lennon, SWP and Walcott are nothing more that speed merchants in my opinion. That's the double edged sword of pace, you seldom learn to actually play the game. Raheem & Sterling are better than them now. He just lacks physical maturity and experience.
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