There may be one or two exceptions he would not be in the least bit arsed about of course.
Keep Suarez?
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Yeah we definitely can't lose. This whole thing is just one big massive win for the club.
That's how I'm viewing it too.
Yep, definitely. We've seen how that sort of pandering treatment has worked wonders in the past too.
He just seems to be getting better as a human week by week.
If only we could keep him away from situations where people might have arms, then he'll be 24 carat.
Don't be so fucking obtuse Ryan its not really that clever
We have seen how he appreciates loyalty he has been shown, in most quaters at least and has spoken of it many times
I am not worried what he is, as long as he produces thirty goals and stays with us as probably our only shot at having a world class player for some time.
Is the key. we should just ignore the FA now, the press, the fucking lot of em.... Nothing we will do will change it and will only hand piles of ammunition for yet more cunts to keep on having a pop day in day out.
Suarez was bang out of order and was punished punitively, we can't change that, what we must do is stress to him just how serious it is and then do everything we can to try and keep our best player.
Circle the wagons and come out fighting next season.
Punished punitively?
Look, he fucked up, he should have known what was coming. In the end, it's his fault.
But the moralizing about it from some corrupt organization, and the general swirling discourse around Suarez all fucking year, that narrative has traction for a variety of reasons, some of which I think rely on the fact that he's a foreigner. There are archetypes of poorly behaved and mad footballers all over England that act out in other ways that don't receive near the level of condemnation we've seen for Suarez. I don't think it has anything to do with Liverpool, I think it has everything to do with the old boys club that is the institutionally racist/ethnocentric world of English football.
It doesn't excuse its behavior, but I'm just sick of the idea that the FA could somehow execute the will of the people in setting cultural values, or that an example needs to be set for the betterment of society, or that they are role models. That's fucking absurd. If football was a space of values, it wouldn't be headed by corrupt organizations. We wouldn't be paying millions upon millions for people to run around and kick a ball, we'd be giving it to scientists to cure horrible diseases, and we'd be celebrating their successes and singing songs for them.
But we don't, it's a silly fucking game good enough that it seems to withstand having every one of its weeping sores of cash fucked by another old man. Give Suarez his punishment, and feed your family well on the considerable amount of waste generated by his and others brilliance and athletic excellence, you mediocre bureaucrats, you embarassments to broadcasters, you washed up players, you lowest rung of the worst generation of journalists to ever exist. Don't get to thinking any of it matters, or you are upholding any value, or doing any justice.
Look, he fucked up, he should have known what was coming. In the end, it's his fault.
But the moralizing about it from some corrupt organization, and the general swirling discourse around Suarez all fucking year, that narrative has traction for a variety of reasons, some of which I think rely on the fact that he's a foreigner. There are archetypes of poorly behaved and mad footballers all over England that act out in other ways that don't receive near the level of condemnation we've seen for Suarez. I don't think it has anything to do with Liverpool, I think it has everything to do with the old boys club that is the institutionally racist/ethnocentric world of English football.
It doesn't excuse its behavior, but I'm just sick of the idea that the FA could somehow execute the will of the people in setting cultural values, or that an example needs to be set for the betterment of society, or that they are role models. That's fucking absurd. If football was a space of values, it wouldn't be headed by corrupt organizations. We wouldn't be paying millions upon millions for people to run around and kick a ball, we'd be giving it to scientists to cure horrible diseases, and we'd be celebrating their successes and singing songs for them.
But we don't, it's a silly fucking game good enough that it seems to withstand having every one of its weeping sores of cash fucked by another old man. Give Suarez his punishment, and feed your family well on the considerable amount of waste generated by his and others brilliance and athletic excellence, you mediocre bureaucrats, you embarassments to broadcasters, you washed up players, you lowest rung of the worst generation of journalists to ever exist. Don't get to thinking any of it matters, or you are upholding any value, or doing any justice.
So Ryan your not a fan of Suarez then eh?
Great footballer, truly truly great footballer actually.
But he's a cock, and I don't think there's any disputing that either.
I don't like him, and I fail to see how anyone can really. Good judge of a footballer is how you'd view them if they played for someone else. Well I can safely say I'd think he's the biggest bellend in football if he played for anyone else.
It's not really my main gripe though. I find the excuse-making for him nauseating, and entirely predictable. It's always the same old bollocks; from shit like this to the complete overreaction to why we're not on first on match of the day or whatever. It's all quite embarrassing really.
I guess I'm a different sort of football supporter.
Hard to disagree with any of that although from the interviews I've seen and read about him off the pitch he seems a very likeable guy off the pitch so for me that gives him a little bit of wiggle room.
His insane work rate and never given in spirit has gotten me supporting him through this more than his brilliance on the ball.
I really think if the rest of the current players had his work ethic we'd be easily in the top 4 and for that alone he's worth holding onto.
His insane work rate and never given in spirit has gotten me supporting him through this more than his brilliance on the ball.
I really think if the rest of the current players had his work ethic we'd be easily in the top 4 and for that alone he's worth holding onto.
"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Sir Ryan Aloof Of Melbourne".
Ryan and Ross, the moral beacons, shining their righteousness through the murky masses of Neanderthal Liverpool supporters, noses lifted, chins raised. Continually ignoring the fact that almost everyone has said Suarez has acted like a tit, is not right in the head, have condemned his actions and deserved a ban. Yes you are a different kind of football supporter. One that doesn't get the idea you've been shafted and are happy to bend over the table and get a right royal humping. Go on, squeal like a pig boy.
I'm trying to figure out what the relevance of the FA appealing a ban is
Some interesting Quotes from Arevalo Rios interview which he gave to Radio Sarandi, He's a Suarez Team mate from National team.
Arevalo Rios: "The papers in England are coyotes. They try to rip Luis' (Suarez) image to pieces. It disgusts our nation."
Arevalo Rios: "I speak to Luis, he feels sadness for the local people admirers, guilt for compatriots. But for those comedians, there is anger.
Arevalo Rios: "They try to run him away, they do not understand that it has only angered him to stay for longer & longer."
Arevalo Rios: "To me Luis says, "I owe debt I cannot repay". The club & people have great kindness. I tell him, honour it."
Arevalo Rios: "The papers in England are coyotes. They try to rip Luis' (Suarez) image to pieces. It disgusts our nation."
Arevalo Rios: "I speak to Luis, he feels sadness for the local people admirers, guilt for compatriots. But for those comedians, there is anger.
Arevalo Rios: "They try to run him away, they do not understand that it has only angered him to stay for longer & longer."
Arevalo Rios: "To me Luis says, "I owe debt I cannot repay". The club & people have great kindness. I tell him, honour it."
Poll says we should keep him and seems the majority view among others I've spoken to.
Let's hope Luis will stand by us as we're standing by him.
But he really, really needs to sort himself out with the club's help.
He's one of the best players I've ever seen and we'll go far with him. He's got a worldwide interest in him to show his skills and be talked about for the right reasons.
Let's hope Luis will stand by us as we're standing by him.
But he really, really needs to sort himself out with the club's help.
He's one of the best players I've ever seen and we'll go far with him. He's got a worldwide interest in him to show his skills and be talked about for the right reasons.
Here's hoping Glen ... This kid knows he's at the right club for him to go where he wants to go professionally.
I think Suarez should adopt a new celebration next year ... run to the nearest Liverpool player and pretend to bite him ...
I think Suarez should adopt a new celebration next year ... run to the nearest Liverpool player and pretend to bite him ...
Can you point out the section of the rules that would have allowed the FA to punish Defoe?
It doesn't appear to exist
No Ryan you are not that different. I understand exactly what you are saying. But for me I think It is a strange way to judge a footballer, to ask would you appreciate him if he played for another club.
I am genuinely fucked off with his biting of Ivanovic it was dumb in the extreme and has fucked us over again, and after the Evra incident most unwelcome. This time he does owe us all an apology.
But cock though he is Ryan It's not the full picture is it. He has played his guts out for us all season and scored some great goals in the process, if it weren't for his "reputation" he would easily be player of the year, is that worth nothing? I respect his determination and his ability and I would respect it if he were to play for another club also.
I remember I absolutely detested Cantona. I considered him a prick of the first order, and he was, but I respected him as a brilliant player and wished we had of bought him and not Fergy.
For all the press hoo-haa I imagine there would not be many managers in the world who would not want Suarez in their team. For us to even contemplate selling him is just cutting our own throats IMO.
Do you still want him in the team? Because baggage or otherwise I can bet you 99% of the managers in the world would fucking love to take him off our hands.
He will be back in game 7 next season, hopefully with his loose screw tightened up a bit.
In the meantime the FA need to look at what the fuck they are doing because it isn't working properly.
Mystic mentioned, and I don't know if it's true, that Thatcher was carded for his elbow on Mendes. Yet, he received an 8 match ban.
If the above is true - surely that shows there is a precedent for what Sunny is asking for.
There is no basis for it in the rules. It would be stupid to attempt such a thing unless the club and player would not appeal.
Which they knew in the Thatcher case wouldn't happen.
It is true.
The 'rule' about not re refereeing is a Fifa edict that has led to an 'understanding' being reached between the Premiership, referees association & the FA.
They don't have to follow it, it just seems convenient that they can do when it suits.
This, this and this again.
No one's making excuses, that's just a convenient snipe for people like yourself and Rosco to use against posters criticising the Governing body. Most of us have said he's been a dickhead. Myself and enough others have reiterated time and time again when you've posted this throughout the thread, but as per you've chosen to overlook it and gone for the "paranoid, excuse making victims" route.
Read the posts.
The punishments served out over the years are inconsistent, I've given enough examples throughout this thread that no one has sought to really challenge - it's not a barometer of violence either. Suarez deserves heavy punishment, he also has a right like anyone does to support - and consistency, something that hasn't really been forthcoming. Until the FA stop treating foreign players (or "problem" players) as hot potatoes, where it's too easy to lock them away and ignore the problem, the problems will continue to grow. Cultural differences, ignorance or whatever, they need to move into the 21st century and stop just protecting their own.
Suarez deserves heavy punishment. Agreed.
So why the fuck are morons going on about Defoe, if Suarez does deserve heavy punishment ?You can't on the one hand agree he needs to be punished and on the other ask that he be treated the same as someone who got away with it.
Unless you're a massive hypocrite.
I love the way Piedro has been totally ignored by the Scouse contingent btw
