What a fucking cunt (no surprise obviously)
Joey Barton
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Punched Pederson in the chest. He's bound to be punished though, surely?
then denied it was a punch!
Yeah pederson dared to brush shoulders with him, so he walked over and punched him.
When he was interviewed on MoTD, Pederson said little (looked a little scared to me) but did say, I only came her to play football.
I think the arguments between Teves and the ManU Brazillian was bad too, they kept pointing to the dressing room area and kind of looked to me like it was 'lets do it off the pitch', lets hope they did, Tevez looked like he could eat him for breakfast.
City shit out in that game, played for the draw and United was there for the taking
When he was interviewed on MoTD, Pederson said little (looked a little scared to me) but did say, I only came her to play football.
I think the arguments between Teves and the ManU Brazillian was bad too, they kept pointing to the dressing room area and kind of looked to me like it was 'lets do it off the pitch', lets hope they did, Tevez looked like he could eat him for breakfast.
City shit out in that game, played for the draw and United was there for the taking
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42714.msg1216017#msg1216017 date=1289474822]
I found it funny the other week when he offered to act counsel for Andy Carroll after his 'incident', being a perfect role model of course as a reformed character.
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I noticed before the Arsenal game when the players were coming out of the tunnel he went over to speak to Nasri, as they had some bad blood, he seemed to be making a mends, and I thought fair play to him. Kinda undone it now though.
I found it funny the other week when he offered to act counsel for Andy Carroll after his 'incident', being a perfect role model of course as a reformed character.
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I noticed before the Arsenal game when the players were coming out of the tunnel he went over to speak to Nasri, as they had some bad blood, he seemed to be making a mends, and I thought fair play to him. Kinda undone it now though.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42714.msg1216022#msg1216022 date=1289475116]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42714.msg1216017#msg1216017 date=1289474822]
I found it funny the other week when he offered to act counsel for Andy Carroll after his 'incident', being a perfect role model of course as a reformed character.
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I noticed before the Arsenal game when the players were coming out of the tunnel he went over to speak to Nasri, as they had some bad blood, he seemed to be making a mends, and I thought fair play to him. Kinda undone it now though.
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The impression I get is that overall he is making an effort. Apart from anything else I can't see someone like Hughton (pretty much his polar opposite, by all appearances) putting up with him if he weren't. Unfortunately the nasty side of him has very deep roots indeed.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42714.msg1216017#msg1216017 date=1289474822]
I found it funny the other week when he offered to act counsel for Andy Carroll after his 'incident', being a perfect role model of course as a reformed character.
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I noticed before the Arsenal game when the players were coming out of the tunnel he went over to speak to Nasri, as they had some bad blood, he seemed to be making a mends, and I thought fair play to him. Kinda undone it now though.
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The impression I get is that overall he is making an effort. Apart from anything else I can't see someone like Hughton (pretty much his polar opposite, by all appearances) putting up with him if he weren't. Unfortunately the nasty side of him has very deep roots indeed.
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[quote author=Asim link=topic=42714.msg1216051#msg1216051 date=1289476232]
I bet Pederson called him the son of a terrorist whore.
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Haha
JJ: yeah, he seems to be, I'd love for him to sort himself out, cos he really is a good player.
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I'd love for Barton to retire. He is a decent player but will never be taking seriously due to him being a thick scumbag. How many more chances does he deserve?
[quote author=Asim link=topic=42714.msg1216051#msg1216051 date=1289476232]
I bet Pederson called him the son of a terrorist whore.
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Haha
JJ: yeah, he seems to be, I'd love for him to sort himself out, cos he really is a good player.
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I'd love for Barton to retire. He is a decent player but will never be taking seriously due to him being a thick scumbag. How many more chances does he deserve?
Agreed, good player, but a thick, violent, recidivist scumbag
The referee is going to look back at the video replay as he missed it during the match, so he will definitely get a 3 game ban. What a scumbag.
[quote author=Bazza The Kopite link=topic=42714.msg1216113#msg1216113 date=1289480500]
The referee is going to look back at the video replay as he missed it during the match, so he will definitely get a 3 game ban. What a scumbag.
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Fucking hell it wasn't as bad as Evertons Fellani kicking the guy in the nuts last night.
The referee is going to look back at the video replay as he missed it during the match, so he will definitely get a 3 game ban. What a scumbag.
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Fucking hell it wasn't as bad as Evertons Fellani kicking the guy in the nuts last night.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/nov/11/why-england-expects-footballers
Why does England expect so much from footballers?
Unless we really have given up as a culture, we might consider investing the lives of players with less symbolism, not more
Posted by Marina Hyde Thursday 11 November 2010
It's amazing how many people want to tell you they expect better from a footballer. "Footballers are role models," they'll fume, "like it or not." Can I choose "not"? By all means expect better from governments, or friends, or your spouse. But those who affect serial disappointment with the personal decisions of people whose job is kicking a ball seem more deserving of medical assistance than a polite ear.
And so to the latest news in bizarrely miscast role models. We have company for both Wayne Rooney, who you will recall is failing to live up to his unsolicited role as a figurehead for Austerity Britain, and Andy Carroll, whose potential England call-up would apparently represent the death of civilised society. Joining their number is John Barnes, whose failure to attend the birth of his baby on Sunday – he preferred to stay in the Sky pundit's chair for the Liverpool-Chelsea game – has been taken as a personal affront by all manner of people other than Mrs Barnes.
The child was Barnesy's seventh, so the comparative rarity of his former club being 2-0 up at half-time these days has not gone unremarked upon. Yet though no one has the remotest inkling what Mrs Barnes feels about it, and though by any civilised yardstick one might imagine it a matter between her and her husband, the fact that John previously played top-flight association football seems to have rendered his personal decision profoundly symbolic for some. They expected better.
We may judge this judgmentalism by its flipside. Labour-room attendance is a pet subject of the Daily Mail's Jeff Powell, who cannot learn of a sportsman's decision to skip a match to attend his child's birth without unleashing a standard rant. "How unfortunate for the Taliban that our British squaddies hold the nation in somewhat higher priority," ran his diatribe about Martin Johnson's decision to hang around for his baby's arrival, while a former Liverpool player's failure to travel to a European fixture for the same reason was given slightly less of a coating on the basis that "at least Shabby Alonso was letting down only his club, not his country".
To anyone who questions this crystalline logic, Jeff has a simple answer: "Usually, I refer them to the lovely Mrs Powell, who belongs to the rational majority of wives and mothers who believe that a man's first job is to provide for the family and who consequently take pride in the husband's work." Isn't he priceless?
But what neither Mr Powell nor any of those frothing about John Barnes can see is that having a rigidly prescriptive view either way on this stuff is the height of ghastliness. And unless we really have given up as a culture – a possibility, admittedly – we might consider investing the personal lives of players with less symbolism, not more.Witness the agonising over Carroll's potential England call-up, which some are opposing vocally on the basis that rejecting the Newcastle striker in light of allegations about his off-pitch behaviour would draw some sort of moral line in the sand not just for football, but the wider country. Yet does the composition of the England football side truly "send a message" to an impressionable populace about what will and won't stand as far as non-footballing matters are concerned? If so – and I hate to break it to the blazered coppers/social engineers/trainee eugenicists of the Football Association and elsewhere – the policy seems to have been failing.
That's perhaps not the most enormous surprise. As an instrument of social correction, the personnel decisions of the England coach are that bit less likely to change the fabric of the nation than little things like failure to provide decent education. Or to put it even more simply: if Britain is broken, it isn't John Terry's fault. Even the most part-time conspiracy theorists or commies might suggest the emphasis placed on such total and utter irrelevances creates a convenient opiate which allows the rather bigger villains of society to go about their work in peace.
We'll leave the last words on Carroll to the troublesome anti-hero Joey Barton, who sneered at the "goody two-shoes" image of "Team England", or Club England, or whatever figleaf we're slapping over the malfunctioning enterprise this week, and observed that other countries just pick the best players in their position.
Naturally, the moralisers will retort that one doesn't go to Barton for ethical guidance – and I'm afraid that should only underscore his perfectly sensible point. One doesn't. One shouldn't. And long may that continue.
Why does England expect so much from footballers?
Unless we really have given up as a culture, we might consider investing the lives of players with less symbolism, not more
Posted by Marina Hyde Thursday 11 November 2010
It's amazing how many people want to tell you they expect better from a footballer. "Footballers are role models," they'll fume, "like it or not." Can I choose "not"? By all means expect better from governments, or friends, or your spouse. But those who affect serial disappointment with the personal decisions of people whose job is kicking a ball seem more deserving of medical assistance than a polite ear.
And so to the latest news in bizarrely miscast role models. We have company for both Wayne Rooney, who you will recall is failing to live up to his unsolicited role as a figurehead for Austerity Britain, and Andy Carroll, whose potential England call-up would apparently represent the death of civilised society. Joining their number is John Barnes, whose failure to attend the birth of his baby on Sunday – he preferred to stay in the Sky pundit's chair for the Liverpool-Chelsea game – has been taken as a personal affront by all manner of people other than Mrs Barnes.
The child was Barnesy's seventh, so the comparative rarity of his former club being 2-0 up at half-time these days has not gone unremarked upon. Yet though no one has the remotest inkling what Mrs Barnes feels about it, and though by any civilised yardstick one might imagine it a matter between her and her husband, the fact that John previously played top-flight association football seems to have rendered his personal decision profoundly symbolic for some. They expected better.
We may judge this judgmentalism by its flipside. Labour-room attendance is a pet subject of the Daily Mail's Jeff Powell, who cannot learn of a sportsman's decision to skip a match to attend his child's birth without unleashing a standard rant. "How unfortunate for the Taliban that our British squaddies hold the nation in somewhat higher priority," ran his diatribe about Martin Johnson's decision to hang around for his baby's arrival, while a former Liverpool player's failure to travel to a European fixture for the same reason was given slightly less of a coating on the basis that "at least Shabby Alonso was letting down only his club, not his country".
To anyone who questions this crystalline logic, Jeff has a simple answer: "Usually, I refer them to the lovely Mrs Powell, who belongs to the rational majority of wives and mothers who believe that a man's first job is to provide for the family and who consequently take pride in the husband's work." Isn't he priceless?
But what neither Mr Powell nor any of those frothing about John Barnes can see is that having a rigidly prescriptive view either way on this stuff is the height of ghastliness. And unless we really have given up as a culture – a possibility, admittedly – we might consider investing the personal lives of players with less symbolism, not more.Witness the agonising over Carroll's potential England call-up, which some are opposing vocally on the basis that rejecting the Newcastle striker in light of allegations about his off-pitch behaviour would draw some sort of moral line in the sand not just for football, but the wider country. Yet does the composition of the England football side truly "send a message" to an impressionable populace about what will and won't stand as far as non-footballing matters are concerned? If so – and I hate to break it to the blazered coppers/social engineers/trainee eugenicists of the Football Association and elsewhere – the policy seems to have been failing.
That's perhaps not the most enormous surprise. As an instrument of social correction, the personnel decisions of the England coach are that bit less likely to change the fabric of the nation than little things like failure to provide decent education. Or to put it even more simply: if Britain is broken, it isn't John Terry's fault. Even the most part-time conspiracy theorists or commies might suggest the emphasis placed on such total and utter irrelevances creates a convenient opiate which allows the rather bigger villains of society to go about their work in peace.
We'll leave the last words on Carroll to the troublesome anti-hero Joey Barton, who sneered at the "goody two-shoes" image of "Team England", or Club England, or whatever figleaf we're slapping over the malfunctioning enterprise this week, and observed that other countries just pick the best players in their position.
Naturally, the moralisers will retort that one doesn't go to Barton for ethical guidance – and I'm afraid that should only underscore his perfectly sensible point. One doesn't. One shouldn't. And long may that continue.
If you look at Barton's thumb though you can tell it wasn't a full-on punch.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=42714.msg1216154#msg1216154 date=1289485856]
John Barnes didn't show up for the birth of his child, now that's low.
Don't care if its the seventh.
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In your opinion.
Personally, its a matter between John and his wife.
John Barnes didn't show up for the birth of his child, now that's low.
Don't care if its the seventh.
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In your opinion.
Personally, its a matter between John and his wife.
Fellaini got a red card though didnt he?
The ubercunt was actually controlling his anger it appears...the end result however was him landing a weak punch on Pedersen.
He should be under medication.
He should be under medication.
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=42714.msg1216154#msg1216154 date=1289485856]
John Barnes didn't show up for the birth of his child, now that's low.
Don't care if its the seventh.
[/quote]
In your opinion.
Personally, its a matter between John and his wife.
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That it is.
It also indicates a surprising failure to understand the depth of feeling some of our best players and servants still feel for this club.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=42714.msg1216154#msg1216154 date=1289485856]
John Barnes didn't show up for the birth of his child, now that's low.
Don't care if its the seventh.
[/quote]
In your opinion.
Personally, its a matter between John and his wife.
[/quote]
That it is.
It also indicates a surprising failure to understand the depth of feeling some of our best players and servants still feel for this club.
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