Probs £70-100 mill in today’s market.
Joao Pedro
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I'd guess they’ll settle at £85m, which is enough to make me wince, but if we can recoup £50m for the donkey, it would soften the blow.
The bottom line is, there can’t be any slip-ups this time. If all goes to plan, we’ve got a limited window with Salah, VVD, and Ali to push for titles. If that means paying extra for a striker the club has total confidence in, then just sign the cheque.
The bottom line is, there can’t be any slip-ups this time. If all goes to plan, we’ve got a limited window with Salah, VVD, and Ali to push for titles. If that means paying extra for a striker the club has total confidence in, then just sign the cheque.
And Mo’s worth?
Well its a gamble isn't it? I'd mention Nunez but he at least had a break out season. Pedro hasn't, yet. So I don't see how he warrants a super fee. He only has two caps for Brazil and hasn't been selected by them since last year.
I think @Modo needs to be part of our negotiation team with Brighton. Will knock off 10-15M instantly.
Jesse Jackson and Alan Greenspan could be part of that negotiation team and they wouldn't be able to bring down whatever fee Brighton want.
They're in a position to ask for £200 mill and we can't do anything about it.
Look at how they did Chelsea and to an extent us.
This is why more players going to Brighton should demand a release clause in their contracts.
Pedro has 4 years left on his contract. If we come and say £50 mill + incentives they'll say you paid £80 mill for Ior, we want the same...at least.
The thing about Joao Pedro that sets him apart is that he thrives in congested spaces - many attackers come from clubs where they primarily play on the counter with a lot of space to work with and then struggle at big clubs that usually play against deep defending teams. Brighton is different in that they also try to have majority of possession and Joao Pedro in particular is almost seeking out congested areas, trusting his technique and ability to take contact - this is what Bobby did for us and how he opened up spaces for teammates.
It’s a bit like having a proper center in basketball who dominates in the paint - having a player like that opens a whole lot of tactical possibilities that are not available otherwise. These players might not have the most spectacular numbers compared to your shooting or point guards (equivalent to wing-forwards in football), but they absolutely anchor your offense and make it unstoppable.
It’s a bit like having a proper center in basketball who dominates in the paint - having a player like that opens a whole lot of tactical possibilities that are not available otherwise. These players might not have the most spectacular numbers compared to your shooting or point guards (equivalent to wing-forwards in football), but they absolutely anchor your offense and make it unstoppable.
I agree with Modo. Everyone here is saying he needs to be an instant success and that we can't take chances, but that is exactly what we are doing not buying a proven goal scorer. We did that with Nunez - he was a proven goalscorer (in Portugal) but it just hasn't translated to the PL. Now we're suggesting a guy who has a relatively poor goal-scoring record is to be signed as our new #9 when he's not even at Jota's level?
If he is to be the new 'Bobby' that is a different question entirely but at that time we had two great goal-scorers on either wing. We don't now unless Diaz proves to be at Mane's level this season and that's unlikely. We need another 15+ PL goals a season scorer (30 in all comps) - is that Pedro?
How many actual ready made proven goal scorer options is there? It’s rare commodity and I assume they are again looking at player who is capable of going next level(s). Apart from Sesko, lad from Sporting(too old for us), and very small handful, I struggle to think of immediate options.
Problem is, there's not a wealth of proven goalscorers good enough to play for us. A gamble on a breakout would probably be better value.
Joao Pedro already has good numbers playing for Brighton. The potential is massive but you can also expect him to deliver from the start. He feels like the one we should go for in all honesty.
Excellent ball carrier, link up play, 23 years old and has got a bit of the poacher instinct.
Feels like he’s worth the 30 mill + you have to pay to get him over Cunha and Marmoush.
Just get the right player with the bigger potential who is already bossing the league.
Excellent ball carrier, link up play, 23 years old and has got a bit of the poacher instinct.
Feels like he’s worth the 30 mill + you have to pay to get him over Cunha and Marmoush.
Just get the right player with the bigger potential who is already bossing the league.
He is a £50m player at least. 31GAs last season. creates lots of opportunities and only 25. I would hate you to write a car ad.
"25 year old with 31 GAs, required to sell as no longer needed. You are getting a bargain that has potential to be world beater £60m ono. Would suit a Saudi team looking to land an elite talent trained at the best team in Europe"
btw I don't mind Nunez, I still like him but more on the LW. So if slot wants to keep him, I would be okay with it
Unless the saudis buy him
£85-100m is better value?!
Chelsea sold Mount for £50m. Davids for £10m is a no brainer for me and see where we are at the end of the season. We know Jota won't last the season, Salah normally has a dry patch. Chiesa is a winger and Italian, may go fast but breaks down.
Than 110m osimhen (an available striker)? Probably.
What other prem proven striker is available? Watkins? I've voiced concerns over Isak previously.
It's either we overpay for potential or we don't sign anyone
He'll cost a fortune and Chelsea probably wouldn't want to sell to us for a reasonable fee
I think it’s a valid point that if we go the false 9 route, we need great wing-forwards on both flanks who will carry most of the goal-scoring burden. I’m hoping Pedro, if we buy him in the summer, will have an opportunity to play with Salah for a couple of seasons - I’m sure Mo would be happy to play with a “new Bobby.” On the left, Gakpo and Diaz are producing decent numbers and Gakpo hasn’t hit his absolute prime yet + we have Ngumoha waiting in the wings.
Once Salah goes, replacing him will be difficult, no question about it. But let’s deal with one problem at a time.
Just want to make it clear that I like João Pedro, I'd love it if we signed him. But the fee has to match his current level. We can't go and do another Nunez.
In that case I'd rather take Cunha from a relegated Wolves for half the price.
Yeah, Cunha looks like he's failed at more clubs than succeeded. Don't like it
How is he a trap signing? He's doing the business at Wolves and arguably more prolific than João Pedro while playing for a worse team. The only real difference imo is that he's 2 years older. I bet he'd be easier to get in January too since they've got the Norwegian lad already.
Scored another today.
