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Jan Transfer Window (rumours, wishes, exists and formation change)
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The more obvious the signing, the less likely we move. We're the masters of 5D chess.
I know who Thuram is, no idea who the fuck Kephren Thuram is though.
And if Di Marzio is right and we have "200m to spend" why have we gone from Jude to Enzo to Caicedo to Koopmieners to now this guy......we keep dropping in player dependant on value.
Who next Lee fucking Cattermole?
And if Di Marzio is right and we have "200m to spend" why have we gone from Jude to Enzo to Caicedo to Koopmieners to now this guy......we keep dropping in player dependant on value.
Who next Lee fucking Cattermole?
Because Kephren and Kone could be the next Caicedo?
That could well be true but both these players have seem to have more experience than Caicedo and are both first teamers for their clubs?
So they either are or they're not......
Caicedo was pulled from oblivion before and not 1 person knew of him except a few of Brighton's scouts.
Still doesn't explain the "200m to spend" when it's obvious who are main targets for that position are.
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This Is Anfield • Liverpool FC News •
Carragher reveals “biggest thing” Michael Edwards told him on Liverpool transfers
Jamie Carragher has revealed the “biggest thing” he took away from a talk with Michael Edwards when it comes to Liverpool’s transfer strategy.
Edwards left Liverpool last summer with his reputation significantly enhanced, having masterminded the club’s success in the transfer market over seven years.
He is currently without a job, departing the club in order to enjoy time away, and he will soon be followed by his replacement, Julian Ward.
Ward effectively followed in Edwards’ footsteps, though where previously there was a bigger focus on the Premier League market along with connections in Germany, of late Liverpool have looked more to Portugal and the Netherlands.
Speaking on the 90 Minutes with Neville Southall podcast, Carragher discussed a conversation he had with Edwards and the “startling” role agents play in transfers.
“Liverpool have been sort of famed for the last four or five years for being great in the transfer market,” he explained.
“Being ahead of the curve if you like, getting players, going under the radar in terms of press speculation.
“I spoke to him two or three years ago and he said the biggest thing for them was the relationship with agents.
“Whether that’s speaking to them, financially – I’m sure that plays a big part, I think that’s common knowledge.
“It was just startling, really.
“I also spoke to Alex Inglethorpe, who is head of the academy at Liverpool, and players at that age were getting agents.
“He said the agent isn’t just the agent anymore. He plays the role of everybody – four or five people.
“He’s the father figure, he’s the agent – that’s his job – he’s the sounding board, he’s the best friend in some instances – where a player’s moving around the world, he loses contact a little bit with family and friends.”
Carragher added: “The advice from the agent to the player about where he needs to go I think is paramount.
“I got it from the gospel’s mouth, if you like, from Liverpool, who were seen as great in the transfer market. That was the biggest thing he said to me.”
This is, of course, not a major revelation, with the role of agents in the modern transfer market well-documented, but it does give an insight into how Liverpool have stayed ahead of the game.
Even now, since Edwards’ departure, the club relies on low-profile talks with potential targets, with news on moves for the likes of Luis Diaz and Cody Gakpo only breaking when deals had already been agreed.
As Carragher continued, then, his comments on the influence of Jorge Mendes were particularly interesting given the club’s interest in his client, Matheus Nunes.
“He’s probably seen as the biggest agent we’ve seen of the last five or 10 years. It feels like he’s actually running football a lot of the time,” he said.
“It’s not just Ronaldo, everyone knows, he’s not daft, he’s running Wolves.
“His clients always get the manager’s job, and that’s on the proviso that he’ll then bring his players into the Premier League.
“[They] put them in the shop window, then maybe get a move from Wolves then higher up the chain in the Premier League.
“That just shows the power of agents, especially Jorge Mendes.”
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This Is Anfield • Liverpool FC News •
Carragher reveals “biggest thing” Michael Edwards told him on Liverpool transfers
- January 12, 2023
- Jack Lusby
Jamie Carragher has revealed the “biggest thing” he took away from a talk with Michael Edwards when it comes to Liverpool’s transfer strategy.
Edwards left Liverpool last summer with his reputation significantly enhanced, having masterminded the club’s success in the transfer market over seven years.
He is currently without a job, departing the club in order to enjoy time away, and he will soon be followed by his replacement, Julian Ward.
Ward effectively followed in Edwards’ footsteps, though where previously there was a bigger focus on the Premier League market along with connections in Germany, of late Liverpool have looked more to Portugal and the Netherlands.
Speaking on the 90 Minutes with Neville Southall podcast, Carragher discussed a conversation he had with Edwards and the “startling” role agents play in transfers.
“Liverpool have been sort of famed for the last four or five years for being great in the transfer market,” he explained.
“Being ahead of the curve if you like, getting players, going under the radar in terms of press speculation.
“I spoke to him two or three years ago and he said the biggest thing for them was the relationship with agents.
“Whether that’s speaking to them, financially – I’m sure that plays a big part, I think that’s common knowledge.
“It was just startling, really.
“I also spoke to Alex Inglethorpe, who is head of the academy at Liverpool, and players at that age were getting agents.
“He said the agent isn’t just the agent anymore. He plays the role of everybody – four or five people.
“He’s the father figure, he’s the agent – that’s his job – he’s the sounding board, he’s the best friend in some instances – where a player’s moving around the world, he loses contact a little bit with family and friends.”
Carragher added: “The advice from the agent to the player about where he needs to go I think is paramount.
“I got it from the gospel’s mouth, if you like, from Liverpool, who were seen as great in the transfer market. That was the biggest thing he said to me.”
This is, of course, not a major revelation, with the role of agents in the modern transfer market well-documented, but it does give an insight into how Liverpool have stayed ahead of the game.
Even now, since Edwards’ departure, the club relies on low-profile talks with potential targets, with news on moves for the likes of Luis Diaz and Cody Gakpo only breaking when deals had already been agreed.
As Carragher continued, then, his comments on the influence of Jorge Mendes were particularly interesting given the club’s interest in his client, Matheus Nunes.
“He’s probably seen as the biggest agent we’ve seen of the last five or 10 years. It feels like he’s actually running football a lot of the time,” he said.
“It’s not just Ronaldo, everyone knows, he’s not daft, he’s running Wolves.
“His clients always get the manager’s job, and that’s on the proviso that he’ll then bring his players into the Premier League.
“[They] put them in the shop window, then maybe get a move from Wolves then higher up the chain in the Premier League.
“That just shows the power of agents, especially Jorge Mendes.”
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His mum, Lilian, thinks he’s boss.
I thought he was fucking shit for Francez and even their manager started shouting at him for being useless at one point.
He has not played for France yet. You might be confusing Khephren with his elder brother Marcus Thuram.
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Well thats as fucking useful. Do we need Ox and Naby to be out for the whole season for the club to take the transfer situation seriously? If they don't buy new players in Jan, I hope fans protest outside the stadium
Passive in the transfer market but sugar coated with the "only move for the right players" reasoning.
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Genuinely i'm not even being picky. An unknown piece of shit is better than known shit. Variety is the spice of life
That how we ended up with Arthur. You're doing some monkey paw shit with this one.
My bad then, well if he is like his elder Bro, then no.
They plays in entirely different positions.
Dad's a right back
Marcus is a striker
Khéphren is a central midfielder
Mom was not a keeper
These days after we signed two nymphs in Elliot and Carvahlo.
Joao Gomes - who we were linked with, from Flamengo, apparently going to Wolves. They seem to be signing Lemina too. Spending the money from Nunes' sale?
Brilliant move by them. We'll be knocking in their doors in 2025 with a £60 million bid for him
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