Is Nunez a bit ..... Stupid?
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He’s clearly better at maths and mirrors.
Yeah hope so and despite my general pessimism I hope Nunez plays a big part.
I like the team we have this season. Could be better
As an ex teacher of English I can give a fairly informed opinion. It's wildly easier to learn the basics of English than say French or Spanish (although if you speak English you have a massive advantage here). English doesn't really have real mascuine or feminine forms for one thing. Even the phonics are ok. Only the basics though. Try attempting to teach anything like idioms or slang and youre fucked. If understanding through listening and speaking is your focus. Two hours a day for 9 months. No problem. On average from start to finish you can become proficiant in any language if you dedicate roughly 500 hours to it. That is to say 2 hours a day for 250 days. More hours are needed if that gets stretched out. Say 700 hundred hours spread out over 2 years.
Some might not agree but I found the easiest language to learn was Japanese. Probably because I lived there. Immersion learning. I listened to it - Daily. Read it. I was never interesteted in writing it. Just comprehension and speaking. I'm shit now simply because I've no-one to speak it to. Apart from @junior member who is kind enough not pull me up on my shoddy Nihon-go skills.
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So if I’m reading that right, everyone can learn another language as long as they try hard enough and put enough hours into it with the right teacher. A side angle of that is some languages are easier than others.
Hhmmm
so either I’m stupid beyond belief or my wife’s a shit teacher.
Hhmmm
so either I’m stupid beyond belief or my wife’s a shit teacher.
Of course everyone can learn another language. You've already learned a language.
The thing is, most people require a reason to, structure, and external motivation. It's like saying everyone can lose weight. They can. But they don't.
The thing is, a language is more like a muscle than a theory. It's not like learning physics. It's more like getting better at an instrument.
I used to think I was shit at learning languages. Maybe I am. But I'm thousands and thousands of hours into Spanish now, and I'm better. I don't think I could get better quickly without being immersed, which is a good reason to travel.
The thing is, most people require a reason to, structure, and external motivation. It's like saying everyone can lose weight. They can. But they don't.
The thing is, a language is more like a muscle than a theory. It's not like learning physics. It's more like getting better at an instrument.
I used to think I was shit at learning languages. Maybe I am. But I'm thousands and thousands of hours into Spanish now, and I'm better. I don't think I could get better quickly without being immersed, which is a good reason to travel.
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Japanese is a tough one to learn I think!
But if you can learn the words, you just have to speak like Yoda and you’ve got the word ordering to perfection.
It was an act with McAteer all along. Someone gave him a lazy rep in his early days and he enjoyed playing up to it. Listen to the guy give an interview.
I think this is old news and the stuff about Klopp being pissed must be from last season. I'm guessing its more that he was pissed about the progression than anything else.
From the Inside training vid from Saturday he was talking to Klopp in English, he's talking to the other lads in English and its also in the video above.
Looks like he has been practicing his English and will only get better. He's going to have a very good season this year.
From the Inside training vid from Saturday he was talking to Klopp in English, he's talking to the other lads in English and its also in the video above.
Looks like he has been practicing his English and will only get better. He's going to have a very good season this year.
I've got a friend in Montevideo so naturally I've asked him about Nunez. In a nutshell his views are these. It's true that Nunez isn't the sharpest crayon in the box and, currently at any rate, will probably act daft from time to time. However, in footballing terms he's an absolute beast. No-one's seen the best of him yet, but it won't be long now and, if Liverpool lose patience with him and ship him out to some other team, doing so will come back and bite us on the @rse.
Tbh, he only won it b/c Milner could get back in time from Brighton to defend his title.
I don't think there's much evidence that Nunez is particularly stupid, especially in a room full of professional footballers. In his own language he sounds genuine, nice, and as straight up the middle in his responses as you'd get. Neither a genius, nor wholly without gorm.
I was very frustrated at the unprofessionalism involved in his not learning English to any basic level, a low bar of comprehension and speech that I will reiterate, is exceedingly easy to achieve. My frustration with this unprofessionalism is on both sides, because just like we don't hope our footballers will eat well, we shouldn't leave it up to them whether they acquire our particular, and clearly (firmino) very basic brand of language for the professions.
Anyway, I've got huge hopes for project Nunez still, and I thought demonstrating some language ability would really signal something to me, because it would show that he is really addressing something he's been called out for and that's how someone who is raw at anything is going to reach their potential.
Him coming back speaking a little and fit as hell is absolutely fantastic.
I was very frustrated at the unprofessionalism involved in his not learning English to any basic level, a low bar of comprehension and speech that I will reiterate, is exceedingly easy to achieve. My frustration with this unprofessionalism is on both sides, because just like we don't hope our footballers will eat well, we shouldn't leave it up to them whether they acquire our particular, and clearly (firmino) very basic brand of language for the professions.
Anyway, I've got huge hopes for project Nunez still, and I thought demonstrating some language ability would really signal something to me, because it would show that he is really addressing something he's been called out for and that's how someone who is raw at anything is going to reach their potential.
Him coming back speaking a little and fit as hell is absolutely fantastic.
See, nothing wrong with his English…..more intelligible than Harry Kane. Naturally funny guy as well.
Indeed, there was an exchange with Klopp in English. I don't think this is a major issue. Of course he will become more proficient as time goes on.
If anyone is going to sharpen a player with so much raw potential, it's Klopp. We've had plenty of players who've been slow burners (Firmino for one), I think it's really exciting that we're at the beginning again with Nunez and Gapko, they have every bit of talent between them to be as good as Bobby and Mane were, it'll take time though. I think we'll see a big improvement from those two and Diaz this season. At least one of them has to have a blinding season.
They should doing that as a matter of course anyway. Pay X million for a player and not get him the best language teachers?
Milner decided to run up from Brighton to take part but their training session ran over so he was late getting here. Poor lad.
Well we never had a team doctor last season did we ? - that maybe considered a more important thing back then.
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