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If he goes, who do we bring in until the end of the season?

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IF for some reason this bad form continues and the owners decide to pull the plug, who do we bring in until the end of the season? Kenny?
I wouldn't have thought any big name managers would be keen to move mid-season so we'll have to wait wait if the unthinkable happens. Or could we tempt one? Klopp is having a mare, but I can't see him stitching up Dortmund mid-season, he loves the place.
I know people have talked about Gerrard, but surely that's tongue in cheek? He's no more capable of setting up a defence and sorting this mess out than Rodgers is.

Are there any big name managers that are out of work that would take a 6month gig?
 
Easy.. Short term Rafa

Unpopular choice with many.. But he is the right man for the Job.. Proven track record..

We need to qualify for the Champions League, if we don't we will fall further behind.. the money for entering next seasons competition is huge for the club in terms of the club moving forward on and off the field. It will attract the right kind of sponserships to help the owners fund the stadium expansion and attract the right calibre of players as well as having some of the funds for doing so...

Like I have said many times.. As we are now in the Europa League, we really have to take that competition very seriously, as champions League qualification comes from wining the thing. It no coincidence Spurs and Everton appear to be taking it seriously this time around..

Long term though for Rafa, I am not so sure.. Klopp, if available would then be my preferred choice as he has all the right atributes to help move this club back towards where we should be..
 
Half the punters on here could replace him, they're as sure in their football knowledge as any manager.
 
I wouldn't say no to Rafa if Rodgers got the boot, until the end of the season, but surely he isn't going to jack his job for a 6month term?
 
But he knows how to win trophies and how to compete in Europe..


Sorry, the priority for me is getting back in the top four. I know that's a sad reality of the state of football, but we need to be able to compete for the top players and the only way we can do that is either by spending ridiculous money on fees and wages (Hello Ed Woodward!) or being in the top four or both. I don't reckon Benitez would get us top four.

Plus the style of football he plays hasn't been particularly great to watch for a long time.
 
Sorry, the priority for me is getting back in the top four. I know that's a sad reality of the state of football, but we need to be able to compete for the top players and the only way we can do that is either by spending ridiculous money on fees and wages (Hello Ed Woodward!) or being in the top four or both. I don't reckon Benitez would get us top four.

Plus the style of football he plays hasn't been particularly great to watch for a long time.


Thats my priorty... top four or winning in Europe (the Europa League) will acheive that goal... I think Rafa could do either...
 
Thats my priorty... top four or winning in Europe (the Europa League) will acheive that goal... I think Rafa could do either...


I think he'd do neither. He won the UEFA Cup with Chelsea's expensively assembled squad, I don't think he could do it with ours. Too many players are out of form, and he's not exactly going to magic a goalscorer out of nowhere. He might make us defensively more solid, but that will come at the expense of any forward thinking we might have.

If he was still the Rafa of 2005-2009, I'd possibly agree, but he's nowhere near as good as he was then. His record at Inter and Napoli have pretty much shown that. There are always mitigations, and there's no doubt he was a top manager back in that spell for us, but that was over 5 years ago now.
 
We aren't Newcastle/Chelsea/Spurs/United, if he's still doing shite at the end of the season, maybe then we can talk about parting ways.
 
I don't think they'll sack him mid-season unless we find ourselves in a relegation dogfight, which isn't going to happen.
 
6 months is still millions

Rafa is never ever worth the risk. It's a sign of how we never actually got better than Rafa that he's seemingly the best option
 
I think that if you let a manager go mid-season you've handed power to the dressing room. It's the players just as much as, if not more than, the manager who got us into this. Their lack of effort, their apparent disinclination to do what they happily did last season, their failure to take any responsibility for things that go wrong, their failure to fight, their failure to care enough - all of this is a disgrace. Many players are basically lazy. If things go wrong they don't think it's their problem, they wait for the manager to come up with a magical plan, and if he doesn't, then they smell blood, keep their heads down and wait for a new manager to come in, at which point they suddenly find huge amounts of energy and passion and do their best to impress their new boss. This lot shouldn't be allowed to get away with that. Players will at places like Spurs, but not at Liverpool. FSG should make it very clear that Rodgers will be here all season, and make it equally clear that it will be the players who will be bombed out unless they put in their proper shift and actually work to get us out of this mess. Rodgers needs a boot up the arse, but behind closed doors. The pressure, publicly, should be put on the players.
 
I'm still amazed that of all the courses of action available to us some people think that bringing Rafa back on some kind of short-term basis is the best one.

Amazed would be the wrong word. Some people have been obsessed with Benitez returning ever since he left so it's no surprise.

I don't really see what that would achieve. If we are battling relegation then I don't really see Benitez as the expert in that situation. If we still have a vague hope of CL qualification then I am not sure that is Benitez's strength either. And if our season is just meaningless by then (not winning anything but not going down) then we might as well just get anyone to carry us through to the end rather than someone who would cost a fortune.
 
But we'd have the wrong set of players for his priorities. Anyone here knows I'm a Rafa man, but he is not the answer.

Brendan Rodgers is the answer, with a decent defensive coach, and a striker in Jan.

I can;t for the life of me, understand why the man of confidence is like deer in headlights right now.
 
What system of defending at corners are we actually using now? I was looking last night and couldn't work it out. If it's zonal marking, they've got a weird idea of where the zones are, and if it's man-for-man marking they don't seem to know where the other man is. We seem to start with about five men in a huddle on the penalty spot, presumably because the other team has sent men there to make them copy them, and then Skrtel grips the shirt of one of them and is carried off into the night, Lovren tries to chase two players heading in different directions, Moreno gets confused so stands still... It's baffling.
 
But we'd have the wrong set of players for his priorities. Anyone here knows I'm a Rafa man, but he is not the answer.

Brendan Rodgers is the answer, with a decent defensive coach, and a striker in Jan.

I can;t for the life of me, understand why the man of confidence is like deer in headlights right now.


Because he does not appear to know what he is doing.. He is not the man.. enough has happened over the course of the season to see that.. anyone beleiving that is kidding themselves..

I like anyone wanted him to succeed, especially after the success of last season.. But its way past that stage now.. If anything his inabilities and have been found out..

His tactics for the match yeaterday in a must win game where beyond baffling..
 
Because he does not know what he is doing.. He is not the man.. enough has happened over the course of the season to see that.. anyone beleiving that is kidding themselves..


I've seen enough of him to disagree with you. I think we've got very short memories.

1. We all agreed he transformed our squad over 2 years from even worse dross
2. he's got players performing at a high level in the past
3. He brought in an exciting style last year (that was *not* suarez dependent - look at first 7 games)
4. he's been an adept manager of people.
5. Tactically he's been brilliant in the past.
6. I think he *bought well* this year; he's actually just bought too many players to integrate them

So I think he has what it takes, I think he is the man. But right now, I can't tell you why he's making such a muck of it. But I'm not going to jettison a manager - it takes too long to rebuild with a new one. More money wasted paying out contracts, selling players, buying new ones for the new manager.

No, I think we need some good old fashioned patience here.
 
Can the people who want Rafa back please explain why they wanted him sacked in the first place?
 
Can the people who want Rafa back please explain why they wanted him sacked in the first place?


I don't want him, but didn't want him sacked. One bad season out of six; the manager deserves the right to turn it around.

That being said, it's *very hard* to turn back negative momemtum. You can see that now with BR.
 
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