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I want to know how a CM of two defensive players

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spider-Neil

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are bypassed time and time again with consumate ease.
I could understand it if they continually going forwards to help the attacks, the the truth they offer next to nothing in attack so how the fuck are teams going pass them like they aren't there?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36554.msg966848#msg966848 date=1256071518]
are bypassed time and time again with consumate ease.
I could understand it if they continually going forwards to help the attacks, the the truth they offer next to nothing in attack so how the fuck are teams going pass them like they aren't there?
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because only one was playing the other was having a walk on the park as usual .lucas will cost us more than the 5 million we payed for him .
 
also how many fucking times do they give the ball away. seriously, how many FUCKING TIMES. flame me I don't give a shit but I don't rate either of them. neither were/are fit lace alonso' boot laces.
 
spending 20 million on a player who wouldn't be ready for months was a massive gamble that has blown up in rafa's face.
 
settle down gloom merchants weve not had our best 11 out there yet this season then you can scream sack the lot of em
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36554.msg966927#msg966927 date=1256072244]
spending 20 million on a player who wouldn't be ready for months was a massive gamble that has blown up in rafa's face.
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Well hard to say that until he is actually fit, and if he's the catalyst we need to transform the season, which is still possible, still early days in terms of hte league, and very possible to qualify in the CL.
He'd want to start playing games very soon and have an impact of Torres porportions though.
 
Mascher actually had a good game.. making tackles all over the place.. sure he gave away the ball a few times with over-ambitious long passes, but then there was hardly a plethora of options around him and in space. Partly due to fact that we're very static (and slow), and partly due to the fact that some of the players are just plain average.

Lucas, on the other hand, is actually a poor defensive midfielder. If he were alongside Zidane and Kaka, i'd worry we'd still get exposed. Slow, weak, can't tackle, not a great reader of the game and not aggressive enough. In fact, he's pretty much poor-to-average at the things you want out of a defensive midfield player. The only thing i'll give him is that he's a "willing worker".
 
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg966970#msg966970 date=1256072715]
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
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he doesn't defend OR attack competantly. well, he was better than spearing at the weekend.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36554.msg966981#msg966981 date=1256072862]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg966970#msg966970 date=1256072715]
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
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he doesn't defend OR attack competantly. well, he was better than spearing at the weekend.
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Please don't ever mention that useless midget again.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg966970#msg966970 date=1256072715]
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
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Whilst I genuinely think you are too quick to judge players and label them (i.e. Yossi/Casper), fair play, you were right about Lucas all along.

And what's worse is the thought that Rage could be be right about Rafa.. too many average lovechilds in our side costing us big time.. and too many average players (period) bloating our squad.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36554.msg967019#msg967019 date=1256073185]
Is Lucas classed as a 'Defensive Midfielder'?
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well he's certainly not an attacking midfielder. I swear before each game someone spins him around really fast three times so he has no clue where our goals is and no clue where the opposition goal is.
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=36554.msg967053#msg967053 date=1256073537]
Isn't he one of them box to box midfielders
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I think that's what he thinks he is.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg966970#msg966970 date=1256072715]
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
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Theres this fucking pretentious attitude that if you cannot see what Lucas contributes then you knw nothing about football. I often ask what does he contribute, nobody offers a convincing response!
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg967102#msg967102 date=1256073970]
Allow me to distill it down for you:

Lucas Is A Fucking Useless Shit Cunt

There.

Hope that helps

B
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Thats dangerous logic!
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=36554.msg967069#msg967069 date=1256073670]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg966970#msg966970 date=1256072715]
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
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Theres this fucking pretentious attitude that if you cannot see what Lucas contributes then you knw nothing about football. I often ask what does he contribute, nobody offers a convincing response!
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for all the stupid people on this board, break it down in laymen terms so we can all understand. what exactly DOES lucas bring to the table. I'm curious to hear your views on this.
 
for all the stupid people on this board, break it down in lawman terms so we can all understand. what exactly DOES lucas bring to the table?

An invitation to the Europa Cup.
 
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[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=36554.msg967069#msg967069 date=1256073670]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36554.msg966970#msg966970 date=1256072715]
No, no, no.

Lucas is a really good player and anyone who 'knows the game' would understand that

Everyone else who is perhaps slightly less well-versed in pub football might stupidly label the insipid fucking cunt as one of the worst fucking midfielders to ever play for LFC, more fool them
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Theres this fucking pretentious attitude that if you cannot see what Lucas contributes then you knw nothing about football. I often ask what does he contribute, nobody offers a convincing response!
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for all the stupid people on this board, break it down in lawman terms so we can all understand. what exactly DOES lucas bring to the table. I'm curious to hear your views on this.
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lucas helps bring us 4 defeats in a row 😉
 
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