Hodgson - impressed?

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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44889.msg1333401#msg1333401 date=1305417726]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=44889.msg1312893#msg1312893 date=1302439996]
players who will give him their all. I think it was very obviously alot of our lads didn't.
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Agree with this part. Hodgson can fuck off, but many of the players need to look at themselves during this time. Unacceptable.
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What you guys are saying is basically that some players intentionally went out on the pitch to lose.
I play in the minor leagues here in Sweden, my team is shit and I don't get paid to play but I can't even fathom the thought of going out on the pitch and not try to win. What's the point in playing then?
OK, Torres wanted to leave and I accept that he probably didn't perform like he's supposed to but I don't think the same goes for the rest.

Personally I think Hodgson's failure was mainly down to form and moral. When you're on a losing streak and nothing seems to work, of course it affects the way you play but it doesn't have to be intentional.
When you have a manager with the man-management skills of a blind goat and most of the players brought in to the team are shit, you'll probably sink even lower into the pit you're already stuck in.

The tactics and formations that Hodgson's utilized didn't suite the players here. The rigid 4-4-2 formation was a catastrophe. Look at the team now, it's basically the same except Suarez. But suddenly they're able to find each other on the pitch. Our movement is more fluid and the team overall is more happy. And all that is thanks to a certain King.

I'm happy that it's working out for Hodgson at West Brom even though I didn't think it would.
He's found his level and the type of players that fit into his footballing philosophy.

 

[cloggypop]

LMA Manager of the Year

 

[doctor_mac]

Without Hodgson's reign being so disastrous, we'd never have got Kenny back. He has inadvertently played his part in our resurgence.


You were really shit, and for this I thank you.

No doubting that he has done a great job with WB though, so fair play.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=44889.msg1312893#msg1312893 date=1302439996]
he has been nothing short of respectful to us since he left.
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It's a bit of a pity he couldn't have been while here.

 

[Judge Jules]

That's true, but he was under immense pressure and not many of us would be at our best in such circs. I also give the man credit for refusing the media's invitations to gloat when we lost at The Hawthorns recently. He turned out to be a disastrous misfit as Liverpool manager but I'm not sorry he's found a berth that suits him.

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44889.msg1333401#msg1333401 date=1305417726]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=44889.msg1312893#msg1312893 date=1302439996]
players who will give him their all. I think it was very obviously alot of our lads didn't.
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Agree with this part. Hodgson can fuck off, but many of the players need to look at themselves during this time. Unacceptable.
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i disagree. i think it's the manager's job to make sure the players perform for him - if they weren't trying for hodgson then that's because he was shit. imo the only reason this thinking ever took root among the media is that they couldn't face saying the brutal truth: he got overpromoted and completely found out and is a no more than mediocre manager totally incapable of managing a club of LFC's size. but the truth hurts, so instead we get patronising excuses like the players being responsible; see, i've no problem in theory with giving players this kind of significance, but it's got to be truthful: shouldn't they, for example, be getting a lot of credit that Kenny's been receiving for the improved form of the team?

my answer would be no.

 

[Judge Jules]

Excellent post. The media have gone silent about all this since Kenny's been making fools of them over it.

 

[King Binny]

‘I don’t think the Liverpool people thought I was a particularly bad manager, they just wanted somebody else,’ he said. ‘So having taken on a job in the fact of public opinion, I suppose I wouldn’t want to do it again.

‘I would rather hope that, if I was ever going to be offered the England job, it would be with the backing of the important people. And that would of course be the people like yourselves, who represent the fans, and the fans themselves of course.

'Otherwise it’s going to be a very difficult job for anyone who takes it. Because even if you’ve got the competence, even if you are the right person, you need to be perceived as the right person. And the perception of my Liverpool appointment was not right and as a result, of course, you end up paying for it.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2025036/Roy-Hodgson-Liverpool-revolt-lesson.html#ixzz1UoqaJKfa

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=44889.msg1378702#msg1378702 date=1313154042]
‘I don’t think the Liverpool people thought I was a particularly bad manager, they just wanted somebody else,’ he said. ‘So having taken on a job in the fact of public opinion, I suppose I wouldn’t want to do it again.

‘I would rather hope that, if I was ever going to be offered the England job, it would be with the backing of the important people. And that would of course be the people like yourselves, who represent the fans, and the fans themselves of course.

'Otherwise it’s going to be a very difficult job for anyone who takes it. Because even if you’ve got the competence, even if you are the right person, you need to be perceived as the right person. And the perception of my Liverpool appointment was not right and as a result, of course, you end up paying for it.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2025036/Roy-Hodgson-Liverpool-revolt-lesson.html#ixzz1UoqaJKfa
[/quote]Regardless of the perception of him, the results are what you live and die by and hodge podges were fucking shite.
He's a prick and i hate that his name has anything to do with our club. I will never forgive him for his comments about Kenny and Rikjard the classless fucking bellend.
Oh people didnt think i was right......fuck off, you lost loads of games thats why you werent right, you signed fucking Poulsen and Konchesky, thats why you werent right, you critiscised the fans thats why you werent right, you can get fucked you saggy faced twat.

 

[refugee]

I could not respect him any less. When he criticised the fans for protesting against G&H he should have been sacked on the spot.
“The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club.”

Or the comment after the Bolton game
"Today was a famous victory because we hadn’t won more than once away in the whole of 2010. When you’re down the bottom, and keep being reminded you’re down the bottom, anxiety kicks in."

or the infinite others.

 

[juniormember]

[quote author=refugee link=topic=44889.msg1378712#msg1378712 date=1313155364]
I could not respect him any less. When he criticised the fans for protesting against G&H he should have been sacked on the spot.
“The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club.”

Or the comment after the Bolton game
"Today was a famous victory because we hadn’t won more than once away in the whole of 2010. When you’re down the bottom, and keep being reminded you’re down the bottom, anxiety kicks in."

or the infinite others.
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Sacked on the spot by whom? :🙂

 

[refugee]

I meant shot*

*This is a joke, a stiff kicking would be more than adequate

 

[Judge Jules]

If he had shown that he was up to the job, the chanting for Kenny wouldn't have happened. Hodgson's attempts (and those of his pals in the media), then and now, to suggest that the fans never gave him a chance are laughable.

 

[RolandG]

Roy Hodgson was always the WRONG man for the club. Even he knows that. He is not good enough for a top club simply because of his footballing philosophy.

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44889.msg1378708#msg1378708 date=1313154789]
Regardless of the perception of him, the results are what you live and die by and hodge podges were fucking shite.
He's a prick and i hate that his name has anything to do with our club. I will never forgive him for his comments about Kenny and Rikjard the classless fucking bellend.
Oh people didnt think i was right......fuck off, you lost loads of games thats why you werent right, you signed fucking Poulsen and Konchesky, thats why you werent right, you critiscised the fans thats why you werent right, you can get fucked you saggy faced twat.
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This is a euphemistic version of how I feel

 

[dee]

It all feels like a surreal dream now and I'd like to keep it like that.

It didn't happen in the real world [fingers in ears] LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA .....

 

[King Binny]

West Brom's decision to sack Di Matteo was felt harsh but it was vindicated when successor Roy Hodgson transformed their fortunes in the final three months of the season.

They also went close to holding United to a draw on Sunday and Villas-Boas said: "It's a home game, it's a game where we expect to have the initiative.

"But we are happy enough that West Brom favours a football initiative and a football philosophy.

"They showed that last week against Man United.

"I think Roy's principles and values of football are surely taken into account.

"It's one of the reasons why he took Fulham to the Europa League final and that's why his Liverpool team - although it couldn't find the results - played fantastic football."

😱

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=44889.msg1382141#msg1382141 date=1313761758]
that's why his Liverpool team - although it couldn't find the results - played fantastic football."[/quote]

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[Skullflower]

the fucking spin on the hodge's liverpool stint is brilliant. he's even convinced himself that it was all about us wanting kenny instead when thad absolutely nothing to do with it. he was just fucking awful and completely out of his depth here.

 

[refugee]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=44889.msg1382141#msg1382141 date=1313761758]

West Brom's decision to sack Di Matteo was felt harsh but it was vindicated when successor Roy Hodgson transformed their fortunes in the final three months of the season.

They also went close to holding United to a draw on Sunday and Villas-Boas said: "It's a home game, it's a game where we expect to have the initiative.

"But we are happy enough that West Brom favours a football initiative and a football philosophy.

"They showed that last week against Man United.

"I think Roy's principles and values of football are surely taken into account.

"It's one of the reasons why he took Fulham to the Europa League final and that's why his Liverpool team - although it couldn't find the results - played fantastic football."

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Really? He's got to be taking the piss?

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44889.msg1382144#msg1382144 date=1313762145]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=44889.msg1382141#msg1382141 date=1313761758]
that's why his Liverpool team - although it couldn't find the results - played fantastic football."[/quote]

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Chelsea fans have lots to worry with their new manager with that comment.

 

[the count]

Roy Hodgson’s stock is rising at the FA as they prepare for life without Fabio Capello after Euro 2012.

There has been a growing belief inside football’s ruling body that there should be a move back to an English boss when the job becomes available. At the moment Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp is widely acknowledged as the people’s choice to succeed Capello.

In fact, Redknapp is the favourite with all the bookies quoting odds on the FA’s line of succession.

But Sunday Mirror sport can reveal that West Brom manager Hodgson is gaining credibility within FA circles as the heir apparent to Capello’s throne.

A four man short-list is emerging featuring Hodgson, Redknapp, Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho and Stuart Pearce, currently in charge of the England Under-21 team.

Over the past couple of years Hodgson’s name has often been mentioned as a potential candidate for the England job without him ever gaining a real upsurge of support. That appears to be changing now.

Hodgson’s successful time at Fulham, allied to his past experience as an international manager with Switzerland, Finland and the UAE, made him a genuine contender.

In fact, at one point he was quoted by bookies as evens favourite to eventually land the England job.

But in the summer of 2010 he joined Liverpool in a move that went badly wrong for both parties. The political and ownership rows engulfing Anfield undermined the new manager.

Hodgson appeared to struggle to develop a real working rapport with the Anfield staff. And while his transfer resources were limited the impact of his signings was poor.

After barely six months in the Anfield job he left with the club floundering. And yet, by guiding West Brom impressively out of the relegation zone last spring Hodgson again proved his managerial credentials.

In recent discussions Hodgson is being cited as a likely front-runner when the task of naming Capello’s successor comes around.

Even though the FA have declared a preference to appoint a British boss next the FA are considering Mourinho as the outstanding international alternative. The controversial former Chelsea boss has been sounded out in the past but always maintained he would only manage one international team - his native Portugal.

Stuart Pearce, the Under-21 coach, is also likely to be interviewed for the post but is widely perceived to be the outsider for the job. However, FA sources believe that in terms of continuity Pearce must be considered for the job.

Paddy Power odds on next permanent England manager:

Harry Redknapp 6-5

Roy Hodgson 9-1

Jose Mourinho 12-1

Stuart Pearce 9-1


Personally I hope he gets the job, not because I want England to fail but because I would love to see his limitations as a manager put firmly into the spotlight which would finally put to bed the myth that he was somehow unlucky and mistreated during his time at Liverpool.

 

[themn]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44889.msg1382144#msg1382144 date=1313762145]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=44889.msg1382141#msg1382141 date=1313761758]
that's why his Liverpool team - although it couldn't find the results - played fantastic football."[/quote]

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I like Villas Boas but, that is some diplomatic shit, right there !

That is quite possibly the most incorrect thing that has ever been said.

 

[Y1]

Isn't WBA bottom of the table with 2 defeats in a roll? How can anyone say RH is a top manager?

 

[Red Mullet]

[quote author=Y1 link=topic=44889.msg1383543#msg1383543 date=1313888020]
Isn't WBA bottom of the table with 2 defeats in a roll? How can anyone syas RH is a top manager?
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Cos he's won all those trophies... oh wait, I was confusing him with someone successful.

 

[Y1]

They are bigging him up because he rolls over for Alex sir?

 

[Spionkop69]

In fairness, WBA being bottom after playing Manure and Chelsea is hardly a that bad. He is still not good enough for us or England but Di Matteo would be in the same place.

 

[Frogfish]

[quote author=Y1 link=topic=44889.msg1383543#msg1383543 date=1313888020]
Isn't WBA bottom of the table with 2 defeats in a roll? How can anyone say RH is a top manager?
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That's rather unfair because they lost to late goals at both United and Chelsea, and in fact were very unlucky not to beat Chelsea yesterday never mind lose. They should have been 0-2 up by HT and in 99/100 times would have been but for a brain-fart when 2 on 1 (the keeper) and in the 2H missing a header from 3 yds out. They gave almost as good as they got and played some really nice football, in Odemwingie and Long they have a very potent attacking pair too. They will finish in the top half of the table.

 

[Insignificance]

I would really love to see FA stump up 3-6 m pounds a year for Roy Hodgson or Stuart Pearce... wow.

 

[Y1]

[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44889.msg1383564#msg1383564 date=1313897573]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=44889.msg1383543#msg1383543 date=1313888020]
Isn't WBA bottom of the table with 2 defeats in a roll? How can anyone say RH is a top manager?
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That's rather unfair because they lost to late goals at both United and Chelsea, and in fact were very unlucky not to beat Chelsea yesterday never mind lose. They should have been 0-2 up by HT and in 99/100 times would have been but for a brain-fart when 2 on 1 (the keeper) and in the 2H missing a header from 3 yds out. They gave almost as good as they got and played some really nice football, in Odemwingie and Long they have a very potent attacking pair too. They will finish in the top half of the table.
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Mid table manager at best, like D Moyes, Harry R