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Heskey Turns Back on Civilisation

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To all of those who are saying "A-League is shit, MLS is shit" - who the fuck is saying in the first place that they are 1st class leagues?

People need to get a brain check and realise there's a whole fucking world of football beyond the shores of UK & Europe.

So what if Heskey wants to go play in Australia?

Our league might not be the best, but it's certainly not the worst ... In Heskey's case, why the fuck would you play in Sunderland or Birmingham or some other city in England when you can go play in Sydney or Melbourne where The Lying Rag shines all year around & the bitches are fine.

Del Piero brought his family over here, now Heskey has.

Next up ... Michael Ballack 🙂 He's in talks with Melbourne & West Sydney.

You can bag out Australia & USA all you want ... the mighty Ingerlund certainly can't beat them on the football pitch going on the past meetings with both nations ....
 
I've got nothing against Liverpool at all. I don't really care if you believe me or not either.

I do enjoy winding half you spastics up though about your precious fucking city. It astounds me that it works every fucking time too. Like seriously - every, fucking, time.

I don't buy that Ryan fro one minute, it's too snidey and persistent to be a jovial wind up, and why shouldn't we be precious about our fucking city anyway.
But at least you have admitted you do it continually.
 
why the fuck would you play in Sunderland or Birmingham or some other city in England when you can go play in Sydney or Melbourne where The Lying Rag shines all year around & the bitches are fine.

Because it's a higher standard of football?
Because he doesn't like that weather?
Because he's gay?

There's plenty of reasons.
 
Because it's a higher standard of football?
Because he doesn't like that weather?
Because he's gay?

There's plenty of reasons.

The great thing about football is its a world game.

If you are good enough to play at a professional level, it opens doors that can take you to all parts of the world, opening you to new experiences - broadening your cultural horizons.

Heskey has the opportunity to go abroad, see the world, experience a new culture and play football at the same time.

Maybe he wants to come here while he is a still a decent player ... with each season the A-League is going up a level ... 3-4 years ago Del Piero would have not even considered coming here ... but now that he has come here shows that the league has improved a great deal in that time.

I remember when Dunga went to the J-League when it was in its infancy - it was laughed at, mocked. He was brave enough to make that move and help the league grow further with his profile & status. The J-League now is one of the best run leagues in world football.

The A-League might not be as glamorous as La Liga & EPL - but when players like Del Piero, Heskey, Ballack are knocking back $5M per season offers from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, J-League, & the MLS to play for $1M in Australia - it shows there is definitely something going for it ...
 
I heard a rumor that Michael Ballack is possibly signing for the new Sydney club.
 
I heard a rumor that Michael Ballack is possibly signing for the new Sydney club.

Yep, Western Sydney.

He initially wanted $2.5M per season to which Western Sydney said no.

Today he said he would play for $1M per season 🙂

So Western Sydney are now contemplating to either sign Michael Ballack or Shinji Ono from Shimizu S-Pulse in the J-League.

Melbourne H. is another club the running to sign Ballack.
 
I fucking pressed send on my Ballack post long before Roopy mentioned it.

By the way.

Fucking tippy-tappa-talk.

I'm all for the A-league going all retro - there do many more cracking players from 2002 I'm looking forward to seeing.
 
The standard of football may be shite in Oz and it deffo is over here, but from a "why would anybody want to go to there?" perspective, are yiz having a laugh..?

If you take the football aspect out of it - It's not like Barca were banging on the donkey's door - why WOULDN'T you want to travel to such places? See world fanous cities like Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane or New York, Chicago, Vancouver? Mostly gorgeous weather, fantastic cost-of-living, etc... Some of the nicest, most welcoming people I've ever come across (and no more mentalers than anywhere else, btw) and an all-round good vibe.

Nah, if the options were Championship footie or moving to Oz for a while, I know I'd be on the first plane south.
 
I always quite liked Heskey. When he was in form he could be excellent, and it was a real shame that he became a bit of a national laughing stock at times.

Anyway, good luck to him. I imagine his choice is a lower division side in England or a foreign league that is a lower standard to the Premier League. He's taken the latter option and I don't really blame him.

I don't know a huge amount about the Australian League, but I do get Roopy's point I have to say. There is a certain amount of snobbery about new-ish leagues, but in fairness they all have to start somewhere!
 
The A-League is shite - but that isn't the point - its better than the shite that came before it.

I say that as someone who actually follows the A-League and goes to games - I certainly get involved with fan groups, etc.

They have to be a bit slower in their buildup & tempo because games are played in the Aussie summer, but the level of technical ability just isn't there.

It's no more hideous that watching Scottish football, I suppose.
 
Or Irish. Or American. Etc...

Other than the weather comment, haven't you just discribed most leagues around the world? There's only one Premiership, Serie A and La Lige. Most everything else is inferior quality. Just like in every other sport out there... And that was my point - If the football you encounter is gonna be shite, wouldn't you rather do it in Sydney or Miami rather than Runcorn or Aldershot?
 
The A-League is shite - but that isn't the point - its better than the shite that came before it.

I say that as someone who actually follows the A-League and goes to games - I certainly get involved with fan groups, etc.

They have to be a bit slower in their buildup & tempo because games are played in the Aussie summer, but the level of technical ability just isn't there.

It's no more hideous that watching Scottish football, I suppose.

I agree technical quality is not there ... but the old NSL was quite good from a technical point of view, whereas the current league is better from an attendance/administration point of view.

The old NSL had some quality players mate - Mark Viduka, Ned Zelic, Paolo Okon, Milan Ivanovic, Anti Milicic, Eddie Krncevic, Paul Trimboli, Josip Biskic and so on. As you said currently we are lacking technically gifted players - but remember that we missed out on an entire generation of footballers from the final dismal years of the NSL to the establishment of the A-League in 2005 - for which our national team is now starting to feel the effects of.

I think over the past 2 seasons we have seen the A-League sides now shift from the British style of play towards a more cultured 4-3-3 high pressing game - no club more so than Brisbane. To play this brand of football requires a high level of coaching knowledge, high level of technical quality, and a complete shift in the cultural mentality that exists within the game - which takes time.
 
I didn't see him giving the A League shit, mate. He said that it's of a lesser standard, which it is... What's the issue with that?
 
I didn't see him giving the A League shit, mate. He said that it's of a lesser standard, which it is... What's the issue with that?

Apologies to Stevie M.

I accidentally mistook the post earlier from StGeorge67 as being made by StevieM ... apologies mate.
 
I actually enjoy the game day experience. You can park right outside the ground then sit in the stand in the sunshine, drinking beer with about 5 seats to yourself. And every game always has 1 or more mad incidents, like a fight or a two-footed tackle. The refs let more go here than they do in Europe in an effort to keep the locals interested.
That said, I find that the only people interested in 'soccer' are Europeans who've moved here. 99% of the Aussies I know think footy is the most turgid borefest ever.
 
I actually enjoy the game day experience. You can park right outside the ground then sit in the stand in the sunshine, drinking beer with about 5 seats to yourself. And every game always has 1 or more mad incidents, like a fight or a two-footed tackle. The refs let more go here than they do in Europe in an effort to keep the locals interested.
That said, I find that the only people interested in 'soccer' are Europeans who've moved here. 99% of the Aussies I know think footy is the most turgid borefest ever.

Maybe if "soccer" had cheer squads with massive pom-poms behind the goal they would get excited. 🙂
 
I actually enjoy the game day experience. You can park right outside the ground then sit in the stand in the sunshine, drinking beer with about 5 seats to yourself. And every game always has 1 or more mad incidents, like a fight or a two-footed tackle. The refs let more go here than they do in Europe in an effort to keep the locals interested.
That said, I find that the only people interested in 'soccer' are Europeans who've moved here. 99% of the Aussies I know think footy is the most turgid borefest ever.

Welcome to the A-League - 2 goals in injury time to knick the game & some crazyness after the final whistle.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLhvRFlnwZk
 
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There's no discernible formation, it looks like chaos. Maybe they've gone zonal but don't yet know how to do it.
 
Ive been to a few A League games, will defo go and see Sydney this season now Del Piero is playing. Its not a strong league, Id say probably on par with League One. Football occupies a very odd space in the public conciousness here, the national team is well supported but club football is not, most people know far more about the premiership than the local club. You see far more people walking around in Liverpool jerseys than any A League team. Mind you Ireland is similar in that respect
 
and yet Aussie rules still has so many of the attributes that people moan are no longer in football . There's very few egos , on the pitch at least , it doesn't matter who you are or what position you play , you have to put a proper shift in and give your all , it's all about hard work . It's tough but fair , there's very little cheating or poncy antics . And there's a high level of respect in the game , between all groups - the players, refs , fans etc . And you can actually relate to the players , most are just hard working down to earth guys .When they give interviews they're generally open and honest , they're a world away from the simpleton media trained footballers we have nowadays .

Good points. The actual sport itself is, in my opinion, terrible. And I can watch almost anything given the right context.
How much do they earn? I think that has an impact on what the young men involved turn out like.
My old man used to catch the bus from Old Swan to Anfield for home games in the 50s when Phil Taylor got the same bus. Captain of Liverpool and England!
They were just normal blokes who worked hard, played hard but fair and earned a similar amount of money to average people.
I wonder if Aussie rules guys are more normal because they are still connected to reality by not earning huge sums.
I'd love to know.
I met an ex-Aussie rules player at a gay wedding a couple of years ago. He began his best man speech with "Well, I never thought I'd see the day that two lezzas could get married, but bugger me, here we are".
He was crass, down to earth and a really top bloke.
 
I wonder if Aussie rules guys are more normal because they are still connected to reality by not earning huge sums.

I'd love to know.

Each club can have a maximum of 23 players registered for the first team.

Each club has a salary cap of $2.5M to spend on player wages - equating to roughly $100,000 per season for each player - but of course some are on more than that, and some are on less than that.

Each club is allowed to have a marquee player (some clubs do, some don't) who can exempt from the salary cap. EG: Del Piero is on $2M per season at Sydney but this is not subtracted from the squads $2.5 salary cap.

In short, most players earn fuck all compared to whats on offer abroad. Soon as any club from Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, Qatar & Saudi Arabia come calling they have pack their bags are on the next plane out of the country.

In regards to Aussie Rule players being more down to earth?

Got it all wrong ... you have some good lads involved in the sport, but a majority of them are complete wankers.

In fact most are such a bunch of irresponsible fuckwits that Aussie Rules has a 3 strike rule on recreational drug use for players ... that is, if you get done for weed, coke, ecstasy, meth 3 times ... only then are you in for punishment, and even then you won't get kicked out of the game for good ... They get treated like kids because most of them have the IQ of kids.
 
In fact most are such a bunch of irresponsible fuckwits that Aussie Rules has a 3 strike rule on recreational drug use for players ... that is, if you get done for weed, coke, ecstasy, meth 3 times ... only then are you in for punishment, and even then you won't get kicked out of the game for good ... They get treated like kids because most of them have the IQ of kids.

well you could argue that rule is a more modern and progressive way of dealing with recreational drugs than other sports . I guess it depends on your views in regards to taking drugs .
 
Sorry, but Roopy's right - the idea that AFL players are down-to-earth decent blokes is laughable.

Of course some are, but in general, again Roopy's right they are a bunch of idiots.

At least one will be caught running around Melbourne city centre with their cock out next Monday when they have their end if season club piss ups - and some school girl will probably be molested... again.
 
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