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Hero Or Zero : - Mark Walters

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I haven't done one of these in awhile but it's the fellas 52nd birthday today and I wondered what peoples thoughts about the guy while he was with us. I seem to remember being really excited when he signed from Rangers. He was clearly a talent and indeed a quick look on wiki and it turns out in the 92/93 season he banged in 11 goals from midfield scoring LFC's first PL goal and indeed LFC's for PL hat trick.

Thoughts?
 
You didn't miss much. That amiable dunce Moores took over from Sir John Smith as chairman and the club is only now beginning to recover properly from such a disastrous collapse in quality at the very top. As far as managers go, Souness' scorched earth policy never worked and Uncle Roy lost his way, signing good players but wasting their talent by too much tinkering.

As for Mark Walters, I'm afraid that AFAIC he fitted right in with the malaise surrounding the club at the time. Talented player but not outstandingly so, IMHO of course, and neither good enough nor tough enough to rise above the dross surrounding him in those days.
 
I haven't done one of these in awhile but it's the fellas 52nd birthday today and I wondered what peoples thoughts about the guy while he was with us. I seem to remember being really excited when he signed from Rangers. He was clearly a talent and indeed a quick look on wiki and it turns out in the 92/93 season he banged in 11 goals from midfield scoring LFC's first PL goal and indeed LFC's for PL hat trick.

Thoughts?

He was injured a lot, and inconsistent. ie not good enough.

Never a fan favourite largely because we'd got used to seeing Barnes flying down the wing, and Walters was shit in comparison, even if injury meant Barnes couldn't do it anymore either.
 
You didn't miss much. That amiable dunce Moores took over from Sir John Smith as chairman and the club is only now beginning to recover properly from such a disastrous collapse in quality at the very top. As far as managers go, Souness' scorched earth policy never worked and Uncle Roy lost his way, signing good players but wasting their talent by too much tinkering.

As for Mark Walters, I'm afraid that AFAIC he fitted right in with the malaise surrounding the club at the time. Talented player but not outstandingly so, IMHO of course, and neither good enough nor tough enough to rise above the dross surrounding him in those days.

This....

Although he was better the Istvan Kozma.
 
Yeah he was inconsistent. I remember that (rightly or wrongly) he scored some kind of wonder goal. Dribbling it past a shed load of defenders and then slotting it beautifully. I could be thinking of Barnes. From memory he used to play on the right and that is where the goal came from. Anyway apparently he scored 29 goals in just over 100 appearances.
 
Walters became a kind of symbol of what LFC had suddenly become. He was never up the quality expected, but neither was LFC any more.
 
Mark Everton Walters - has someone been fecking about with his wikki?
 
I remember when he broke through at Villa - talented player with skill but inconsistent.

Went to Rangers (under Souness), and became one of the best players in the SPL.

Came back to England and wasn't as talented, but was still very, very inconsistent.

And injured.
 
Mark Everton Walters - has someone been fecking about with his wikki?

The middle name of Mark Walters, Everton, always comes up and of course should be highlighted, considering his association with the Reds. Asked by a Red if he would ever consider changing his his middle name, Walters said: "No, well unfortunately my mother told me that if I change any part of my name she’ll disown me, so that one’s for life."

Source - http://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/437
 
I remember the lad and even saw him play a few times but if I've ever known his middle name all knowledge of it has completely gone. Very worrying.
 
He was dreadful in the main with the odd piece of mediocrity thrown in for good measure.
 
Winning goal against Auxerre when we'd been two down and was the most amazing atmosphere with only 25000 odd in the ground.

That era's Jermaine Pennant. Harsh?
 
He would have been more effective if we'd bought him a few years earlier. That could be said of many players we signed in the last couple of decades. Take Robbie Keane - Uncle Roy, in a spectacular error of judgement, passed on him when he was at Wolves.

Then there was Ince, Riedle, Litmanen, Morientes, arguably Markus Babbel, too.
 
He would have been more effective if we'd bought him a few years earlier. That could be said of many players we signed in the last couple of decades. Take Robbie Keane - Uncle Roy, in a spectacular error of judgement, passed on him when he was at Wolves.

Then there was Ince, Riedle, Litmanen, Morientes, arguably Markus Babbel, too.

Litmanen .... *sigh* What if..... We were so close to getting him before Barca got their mitts on him. What a wonderful player (and a proper red) I have a great memory of him in a cup game (against Palace maybe) I was watching it in a pub in Tooting surrounded by baying Palace fans. He whipped out the most sublime bit of skill to leave some player for dead then set up Fowler for a beautiful goal. He only played a handful of games but he was some player.
 
Ince, Riedle, Litmanen, Morientes, arguably Markus Babbel, too.
Gary Tibbs and yours truly.

I thought Walters was pants, apart from Auxerre obvs. I think I assumed that every black player was as good as Barnesy, I hadn't seen many then.
 
His LFC career has been summed up nicely, I like him only because he scored the winning goal against Auxerre in my first ever game on the Kop. Generally, he, as well as many others, was not good enough but he did try his best.

It was a strange time then because we were generally shit under Souness but a the same time it was funny as fuck on the Kop, Teddy bears Picnic song for Torben Piechnik.... Oh Mickey Mouse for Mickey Marsh... ah such unhappy but happy days....

Standing Kop... raucous fun....
 
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