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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518641#msg518641 date=1205851109]
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518611#msg518611 date=1205849791]
Id rather have Bentley at that price.
But i would still love henry of course.
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I'm not sure we could get Bentley at that price though. And would Bentley inspire the rest of the team/fans as much as the signing of Henry? Right now we consistently look to two or three players to win matches for us- would you have the same confidence in Bentley winning games for us, than seeing T. Henry on the team-sheet?
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At that price we could probably afford both.

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8-10M for Bentley AND Henry? If you're right, and you're not, I'd fund both signings out of my own pocket.


If I wasn't fairly poor and all.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=21694.msg518635#msg518635 date=1205850729]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=21694.msg518632#msg518632 date=1205850553]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518526#msg518526 date=1205843263]
An attacking three of Henry, Torres and Babel - fluidly interchanging rather than sticking to particular left-right-centre positions - would be wonderful to watch and almost impossible to defend against.


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That sentence has just given me an even bigger hard-on for Henry to LFC than I had before.

I had forgotten about the Babel/Henry thing. And who better than to help Babel fulfil his promise as the 'new Henry' than the old Henry? There is a lovely symmetry to this.
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babel - 10
torres - 9
gerrard - 8
henry - 7

okay that means getting rid of voronin and kewell but I could live with that

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all of the above have pace, two of the above are good at set peices (gerrard and henry) it really would be a fantastic front four.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518641#msg518641 date=1205851109]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=21694.msg518638#msg518638 date=1205850915]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518611#msg518611 date=1205849791]
Id rather have Bentley at that price.
But i would still love henry of course.
[/quote]

I'm not sure we could get Bentley at that price though. And would Bentley inspire the rest of the team/fans as much as the signing of Henry? Right now we consistently look to two or three players to win matches for us- would you have the same confidence in Bentley winning games for us, than seeing T. Henry on the team-sheet?
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At that price we could probably afford both.

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Blackburn will likely put a price tag of at least 15m for Bentley.
 
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=21694.msg518660#msg518660 date=1205852470]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518641#msg518641 date=1205851109]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=21694.msg518638#msg518638 date=1205850915]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518611#msg518611 date=1205849791]
Id rather have Bentley at that price.
But i would still love henry of course.
[/quote]

I'm not sure we could get Bentley at that price though. And would Bentley inspire the rest of the team/fans as much as the signing of Henry? Right now we consistently look to two or three players to win matches for us- would you have the same confidence in Bentley winning games for us, than seeing T. Henry on the team-sheet?
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At that price we could probably afford both.

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Blackburn will likely put a price tag of at least 15m for Bentley.
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I agree.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=21694.msg518632#msg518632 date=1205850553]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518526#msg518526 date=1205843263]
An attacking three of Henry, Torres and Babel - fluidly interchanging rather than sticking to particular left-right-centre positions - would be wonderful to watch and almost impossible to defend against.


[/quote]

That sentence has just given me an even bigger hard-on for Henry to LFC than I had before.

I had forgotten about the Babel/Henry thing. And who better than to help Babel fulfil his promise as the 'new Henry' than the old Henry? There is a lovely symmetry to this.
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I think I mentioned it above 😉
 
Blackburn are a touch in the transfer market.
I bet you he has a buy out clause.
And Doc, i think Bentley has been at the heart of most of blackburns wins this year.
I think hes a matchwinner.
 
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=21694.msg518632#msg518632 date=1205850553]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518526#msg518526 date=1205843263]
An attacking three of Henry, Torres and Babel - fluidly interchanging rather than sticking to particular left-right-centre positions - would be wonderful to watch and almost impossible to defend against.


[/quote]

That sentence has just given me an even bigger hard-on for Henry to LFC than I had before.

I had forgotten about the Babel/Henry thing. And who better than to help Babel fulfil his promise as the 'new Henry' than the old Henry? There is a lovely symmetry to this.
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I think I mentioned it above 😉
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Well- you hinted at it "3. Would be a perfect mentor for Babel / Torres / New Winger", but didn't make it so explicit Froggy.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518705#msg518705 date=1205854449]
Blackburn are a touch in the transfer market.
I bet you he has a buy out clause.
And Doc, i think Bentley has been at the heart of most of blackburns wins this year.
I think hes a matchwinner.
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I rate Bentley- he's a clever player, who is streets ahead of Pennant or Yossi-

I'd like to have him- but if it were a choice between the two, I'd go for Henry, just because I think he'd give the whole team confidence- I think he'd lift everybody at the club up a peg. Bentley would be a step in the right direction. Henry would be like an application of intravenous steroids into the club- a boost that might just have us overachieving for one crucial season.

And I still think we'd not get too much change out of 15m for Bentley.
 
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=21694.msg518683#msg518683 date=1205853699]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=21694.msg518632#msg518632 date=1205850553]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=21694.msg518526#msg518526 date=1205843263]
An attacking three of Henry, Torres and Babel - fluidly interchanging rather than sticking to particular left-right-centre positions - would be wonderful to watch and almost impossible to defend against.


[/quote]

That sentence has just given me an even bigger hard-on for Henry to LFC than I had before.

I had forgotten about the Babel/Henry thing. And who better than to help Babel fulfil his promise as the 'new Henry' than the old Henry? There is a lovely symmetry to this.
[/quote]

I think I mentioned it above 😉
[/quote]

Well- you hinted at it "3. Would be a perfect mentor for Babel / Torres / New Winger", but didn't make it so explicit Froggy.
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*blows raspberry*
 
But henry is 30. What you are gambling is that Henry can bring us more success in 2 years than Bentley in 10.
If it was a straight choice for me between a 30yr old left forward (of which we have one) and a 23yr old right forward. No hesitation. Bentley!
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518789#msg518789 date=1205860945]
But henry is 30. What you are gambling is that Henry can bring us more success in 2 years than Bentley in 10.
If it was a straight choice for me between a 30yr old left forward (of which we have one) and a 23yr old right forward. No hesitation. Bentley!
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Are you willing to give Rafa 10 years at the helm?
Not a lot of people, including yourself, have a whole lot of patience when it comes to the waiting time of winning the league. A 30 year old Henry, the best forward ever since the inception of the Premere League. A match winner. A creator of goals. In a 4-3-3. As opposed to a winger that averages around 6 goals and 6 assists per season that's never really played as a forward in a 4-3-3.
I know who I'd choose for the sake of the short term. It'll be incredibly beneficial to the development of Babel and a few others.


EDIT
FYI In Henry's final injury ravaged season at Arsenal where he was 'past it', he made 17 PL appearances and scored 10 goals with 6 assists.
Prior to that season his goal scoring record in all comps reads (assists in brackets): 26(9), 22(3), 32(5), 32(23), 39(11), 30(15), 33(9).

Yup, Henry all the way for me.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518789#msg518789 date=1205860945]
But henry is 30. What you are gambling is that Henry can bring us more success in 2 years than Bentley in 10.
If it was a straight choice for me between a 30yr old left forward (of which we have one) and a 23yr old right forward. No hesitation. Bentley!
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Are you willing to give Rafa 10 years at the helm?
Not a lot of people, including yourself, have a whole lot of patience when it comes to the waiting time of winning the league.[/quote]

It's been 17 years. I think that's being more than patient.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=21694.msg518811#msg518811 date=1205862704]
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=21694.msg518805#msg518805 date=1205862415]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518789#msg518789 date=1205860945]
But henry is 30. What you are gambling is that Henry can bring us more success in 2 years than Bentley in 10.
If it was a straight choice for me between a 30yr old left forward (of which we have one) and a 23yr old right forward. No hesitation. Bentley!
[/quote]

Are you willing to give Rafa 10 years at the helm?
Not a lot of people, including yourself, have a whole lot of patience when it comes to the waiting time of winning the league.[/quote]

It's been 17 years. I think that's being more than patient.
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Er, What?
Could you explain to me, from the context of my sentence, how your statement has anything what so ever to do with my point. I have no idea what you're on about.
 
Oh I thought you were saying some people aren't patient when it comes to winning the league and I was sort of like saying that we haven't won it for like 17 years and we've been waiting that long and that is sort of dead long to be waiting so people are really dead patient.













It was a joke.
 
Didn't Henry say he'd never play for another English club?

I'd welcome him with open arms, but I can't see it happening.

Could make our team flexible and hard to predict as the same XI can play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 depending on how Benitez wants to tinker:


------------------------------Reina----------------------------------

Arbeloa--------Carrgher--------------Agger-------------Aurelio

Gerrard---------Alonso------------Mascherano----------Babel

--------------------Torres------------Henry-------------------------

Can also line up as:

------------------------------Reina----------------------------------

Arbeloa--------Carrgher--------------Agger-------------Aurelio

-------------------Alonso------------Mascherano-----------------

Babel----------------------Gerrard-------------------------Henry

-------------------------------Torres--------------------------------

The front four roaming with Henry going up top from time to time could cause havoc.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=21694.msg518823#msg518823 date=1205863307]
Oh I thought you were saying some people aren't patient when it comes to winning the league and I was sort of like saying that we haven't won it for like 17 years and we've been waiting that long and that is sort of dead long to be waiting so people are really dead patient.













It was a joke.
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Okay then. Ahahahahahahaha.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21694.msg518789#msg518789 date=1205860945]
But henry is 30. What you are gambling is that Henry can bring us more success in 2 years than Bentley in 10.
If it was a straight choice for me between a 30yr old left forward (of which we have one) and a 23yr old right forward. No hesitation. Bentley!
[/quote]

As I've said Oncy- this is no 5-10 year plan. It's a plan to raise the bar for 2, maybe 3 seasons, and perhaps win the league. Henry is a signing for the now. And my suspicion is that Henry has that world class quality to raise our game and perhaps win the league. Bentley would be an improvement, for the mid-long term, but in my opinion, is less likely to help us become title contenders than TH.
 
Sign Henry? Yes!

However I think some of you are being a bit naive with thinking Henry for Kuyt would improve the current team, in the current system.

Kuyt does an awful lot of tracking back and ball winning in the midfield. You may think of it as a 'front 3', but the wide men in this system have to do some defending.

I'm not saying Kuyt is better, but don't underestimate the part he has played in our good run.
 
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[quote author=leftpeg link=topic=21694.msg518479#msg518479 date=1205840381]
I'd pay his air fare to bring him over.
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As long as it doubled as his tranfer fee I would too.

Never my favourite player - loads of skill but always, always bottled it in the biggest games. Absolute twat on a personal level - everything was always about him. Not sure I can remember a player more theatrical in his efforts to focus on himself.

He's past it now, anyway, as far as I'm concerned. I have no doubt that he is still an excellent player but he's not nearly as good as he was, would cost a fortune in transfer fee/wages and he'd ruin the dressing room balance with his ego.

No thanks.
 
If we're thinking of short term success Yes Henry is a good player to sign, but we need to built the squad with young players who are hungry to win the Premiership. Henry has won it before and i would say he don't give a damn anymore about it.
 
[quote author=Glock link=topic=21694.msg519071#msg519071 date=1205898631]
If we're thinking of short term success Yes Henry is a good player to sign, but we need to built the squad with young players who are hungry to win the Premiership. Henry has won it before and i would say he don't give a damn anymore about it.
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Brilliant observation Glock! Henry would probably guarantee short term success and I can live with that. Just get him. Believe me it would be a huge boost to the club. Henry still has much to offer and considering that we strikers like Crouch, Voronin and Kuyt, it's really a no brainer.

With regards to long term success, I do believe that we have great young players at the Academy who will make their mark for Liverpool in the near future. We have nothing but time.

Whatever Henry has said in the past about not playing for another English club is rubbish. His personal circumstances have changed. Let's buy him a house and mention the fact that he'll be able to see his daughter as often as he likes and it's a done deal. His personal circumstances has definately impacted his game and at Barca he is in the shadow of Messi, Ronaldinho and Eto'o. His status there is unlikely to change.
 
As Roland is suggesting, if we just win the league once we'll have broken a rather crippling mental barrier at the club. Henry might just add the experience and quality in achieving that.

As for Wiz's ego concerns- we already have SG in the dressing room- perhaps they'll cancel each other out or something.
 
Getting Henry will be the start of a symbiotic relationship with us. He can help us win the league while we can help him win the Champions' League. He should be fired up for that if he joins us and should also be pretty chuffed playing alongside Gerrard and Torres.

Of course if Barca wins the Champions' League this season then my theory is pretty much fucked.
 
I hate to be the kill joy here...Thierry was my favourite premiership player when he was here, but you can see the effect he must have had over Arsenal when he left.

1. He was the number 1 dominant player and he stifled the creativity of others.
2. I feel that we had a similar player in Stevie...Smicer, Biscan and Cheyrou were stifled in the same way as Fabregas and Hleb...we never got shot of Stevie...not saying it was right or wrong.
3. Stevie still dominates to a degree, although with Babel and Torres, we have 2 players who can shine also.
4. He may be a success here, although at what cost? Anything over 10M and I would be worried.
 
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