Henrikh Mkhitaryan

[the_khl]

I defer to your judgement on Eriksen, but as for Henrikh, I've only seen him play through the middle. I think like Eriksen, he needs a lot of ground to roam, so a wing position would limit him too much.

I thought he was played on the wings sometimes actually, but perhaps I've mistaken his position due to them playing in a 4-4-2?

He's just looked like a player that relied a lot on his movement and pace, why I thought he'd be great in a 4-3-3 in more or less all attacking positions. Eriksen doesn't hold the same pace. He's got quick feet alright but not what I'd call pacy over 30 yards.

 

[keniget]

You must be joking, right? There was exactly 1 time in the whole match when he lost possession because of miscontrolling the ball. There was also an episode where a ball bounced off his knee but fell kindly in his path. Hardly Kuyt-esque.

All 3 games studs posted were games Shakhtar lost. In the Borussia away game particularly, they were just annihilated, in part because the long winter break in Ukraine didn't allow Shakhtar players to match the Germans' physical condition.

No, I'm not.

And having a suspect first touch doesn't necessarily equate to losing the ball.

His touch looked heavy on a number of occasions... particularly when he was running with the ball.

 

[the_khl]

A few stats:

Eriksen, 21, Ajax:

Apps 150
Goals 27
Assists 48

Henrikh, 24, Shakhtar:

Apps 90
Goals 35
Assists (? - Binnytime)

Dzagoev, 22, CSKA:

Apps 172
Goals 41
Assists (? - Binnytime)

 

[rurikbird]

We can also add Honda from CSKA to that list, Rodgers was following him for a long time too.

 

[rurikbird]

No, I'm not.

And having a suspect first touch doesn't necessarily equate to losing the ball.

His touch looked heavy on a number of occasions... particularly when he was running with the ball.

Gerrard also doesn't possess the most silky touch - when you have speed and power, a cat-like touch is not required to be effective. And Mkhitaryan is clearly effective at what he does, those stats do not lie. Like I said before, Ukrainian league is very defensively oriented, kind of polar opposite of Holland. For a midfielder to score 19 goals in 20 games in unheard of there. He also has 7 assists, according to transfermarkt.

When you compare somebody with Kuyt, it usually means a player has trouble trapping the ball under pressure - which Mkhitaryan clearly doesn't.

 

[Fabio]

Not possible, Dzagoev is from North Ossetia, which is a small autonomous republic within Russia, even smaller than Armenia. They can't possibly produce a good player.

*rolls eyes smiley*

 

[Fabio]

We can also add Honda from CSKA to that list, Rodgers was following him for a long time too.

I'd love Honda

 

[King Binny]

A few stats:

Eriksen, 21, Ajax:

Apps 150
Goals 27
Assists 48

Henrikh, 24, Shakhtar:

Apps 90
Goals 35
Assists (? - Binnytime)

Dzagoev, 22, CSKA:

Apps 172
Goals 41
Assists (? - Binnytime)

Here you go (slightly differing though)

Henrikh - Shakhtar Donetsk
95 app
36 goals (avg a goal every 204 mins)
19 assists (avg an assist every 386 mins)
7343 mins played

Dzagoev - CSKA Moscow
167 app
39 goals (avg a goal every 321 mins)
51 assists (avg an assist every 246 mins)
12535 mins played

Eriksen - AFC Ajax Amsterdam
151 app
27 goals (avg a goal every 407 mins)
56 assists (avg an assist every 196 mins)
10977 mins played

Honda - CSKA Moscow
96 app
23 goals (avg a goal every 310 mins)
24 assists (avg an assist every 297 mins)
7137 mins played

Djuricic - SC Heerenveen
106 app
26 goals (avg a goal every 307 mins)
27 assists (avg an assist every 296 mins)
7983 mins played

 

[rurikbird]

Here you go (slightly differing though)

Henrikh - Shakhtar Donetsk
95 app
36 goals (avg a goal every 204 mins)
19 assists (avg an assist every 386 mins)
7343 mins played

Dzagoev - CSKA Moscow
167 app
39 goals (avg a goal every 321 mins)
51 assists (avg an assist every 246 mins)
12535 mins played

Eriksen - AFC Ajax Amsterdam
151 app
27 goals (avg a goal every 407 mins)
56 assists (avg an assist every 196 mins)
10977 mins played

Can you add Honda? Pretty please?

 

[dmishra]

Add Djuricic to the list. I reckon he's the most talented player in Europe.

There are many more options to be had if the AM slot is something we're looking to fill. Eriksen, Mkhitaryan and Dzagoev will probably be the most expensive of the lot.

 

[King Binny]

Can you add Honda? Pretty please?

Done mate. But who's playing what role between Dzagoev and Honda at CSKA Moscow? (difference in role probably makes the direct comparison btw this 2 a little unfair)

 

[King Binny]

Add Djuricic to the list. I reckon he's the most talented of the lot.

There are many more options to be had if the AM slot is something we're looking to fill. Eriksen, Mkhitaryan and Dzagoev will probably be the most expensive of the lot.

Done. 🙂 But he's going to Benfica, no?

 

[red_maradona]

Here you go (slightly differing though)

Henrikh - Shakhtar Donetsk
95 app
36 goals (avg a goal every 204 mins)
19 assists (avg an assist every 386 mins)
7343 mins played

Dzagoev - CSKA Moscow
167 app
39 goals (avg a goal every 321 mins)
51 assists (avg an assist every 246 mins)
12535 mins played

Eriksen - AFC Ajax Amsterdam
151 app
27 goals (avg a goal every 407 mins)
56 assists (avg an assist every 196 mins)
10977 mins played

Honda - CSKA Moscow
96 app
23 goals (avg a goal every 310 mins)
24 assists (avg an assist every 297 mins)
7137 mins played

Djuricic - SC Heerenveen
106 app
26 goals (avg a goal every 307 mins)
27 assists (avg an assist every 296 mins)
7983 mins played

fantastic stuff - the russian league is stronger than the dutch though, no? The dutch stats would have to be exceptional or much better ( a bit like suarez's) to compare.

 

[rurikbird]

Not necessarily stronger, but definitely more defensively oriented (same goes for Ukrainian league, although it's a bit weaker). So the attacking player stats in Holland should be adjusted for "inflation" as they score almost one more goal per game compared to Russia or Ukraine.

 

[dmishra]

Done. 🙂 But he's going to Benfica, no?

Is he?

Edit: Just checked. Dunno how reliable these sites are, but they're reporting a deal being agreed for €6M. That's criminal!

 

[King Binny]

In terms of UEFA co-efficients (i.e. if one choose to trust it 😳 ), Ukraine > Russia > Netherlands

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html

Based on 2011/12 stats:

Russian Premjer-liga avg 2.37 goals per game

Dutch Eredivisie avg 3.26 per game

Ukraine Premjer Liha avg 2.55 goals per game

 

[Fabio]

Is he?

Allegedly, it was posted in a thread


WHICH IS WHY NEW THREADS SHOULD BE STARTED RATHER THAN BUMPS

 

[King Binny]

Is he?

Confirmed Transfers (2013/14)

Apparently €6 million deal potentially raising to €8 million

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

Confirmed Transfers (2013/14)

Apparently €6 million deal potentially raising to €8 million

Still hoping there's still a chance we can scupper the deal. If we're not going to use Assaidi, let's try sending him back to Heerenveen in part-exchange for Djuricic.

 

[King Binny]

Artur Petrosyan ‏@arturpetrosyan

47m​

Henrikh Mkhitaryan has finally got an agent. A well-known one, Mino Raiola. A move to a top club is even closer now.

Artur Petrosyan ‏@arturpetrosyan

14m​

#LFC still interested in Mkhitaryan and he does want to move there. But I'm afraid Juve will resurrect their interest following latest news.