Gray and Keys caught out
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Re: Gray and Keys caught out
Shouldnt sexism be classed the same as racism? Sack em both.
Shouldnt sexism be classed the same as racism? Sack em both.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=themn link=topic=43778.msg1260211#msg1260211 date=1295820184]
Who was on ESPN ?
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Shaggy.
[quote author=themn link=topic=43778.msg1260211#msg1260211 date=1295820184]
Who was on ESPN ?
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Shaggy.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43778.msg1260210#msg1260210 date=1295820122]
Shouldnt sexism be classed the same as racism? Sack em both.
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They won't though. They seem untouchable to me*. Listen to Keys response when challenged on it. Overtly casual about it all. It's really quite pathetic.
*Hopefully I've grossly misjudged the situation and the twats are goners.
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43778.msg1260210#msg1260210 date=1295820122]
Shouldnt sexism be classed the same as racism? Sack em both.
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They won't though. They seem untouchable to me*. Listen to Keys response when challenged on it. Overtly casual about it all. It's really quite pathetic.
*Hopefully I've grossly misjudged the situation and the twats are goners.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
keys: 'do me a favour, love'
hahahaha! what a prick. fingers crossed this'll build momentum and they'll be sacked. i might even contemplate paying for sky sports again if that happened.
keys: 'do me a favour, love'
hahahaha! what a prick. fingers crossed this'll build momentum and they'll be sacked. i might even contemplate paying for sky sports again if that happened.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
Richard Keys: Well, somebody better get down there and explain offside to her.
Andy Gray: Yeah, I know. Can you believe that? Female linesman. Forget what I said – they probably don't know the offside rule.
RK: Course they don't.
AG: Why is there a female linesman? Somebody's fucked up big.
RK: I can guarantee you there'll be a big one today. Kenny [Dalglish, Liverpool's manager] will go potty. This is not the first time. Didn't we have one before?
AG: Yeah.
RK: Wendy Toms.
AG: Wendy Toms, something like that. She was fucking hopeless as well.
RK: [exasperated groan]
AG: [inaudible]
RK: No, no, it's got to be done, it's good. The game's gone mad. See charming Karren Brady this morning complaining about sexism? Yeah. Do me a favour, love.
Richard Keys: Well, somebody better get down there and explain offside to her.
Andy Gray: Yeah, I know. Can you believe that? Female linesman. Forget what I said – they probably don't know the offside rule.
RK: Course they don't.
AG: Why is there a female linesman? Somebody's fucked up big.
RK: I can guarantee you there'll be a big one today. Kenny [Dalglish, Liverpool's manager] will go potty. This is not the first time. Didn't we have one before?
AG: Yeah.
RK: Wendy Toms.
AG: Wendy Toms, something like that. She was fucking hopeless as well.
RK: [exasperated groan]
AG: [inaudible]
RK: No, no, it's got to be done, it's good. The game's gone mad. See charming Karren Brady this morning complaining about sexism? Yeah. Do me a favour, love.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
I don't like Keys and Gray either, and they have never been friends of Liverpool FC. However, I refuse to rejoice in their current embarrassment, because that would be handing a little victory to Political Correctness. Why the hell should women want to officiate in men's football matches? The young woman who ran the line in our match did OK, but why was she there in the first place?
It brings to mind this passage from Boswell's "Life of Johnson:"
"I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
I don't like Keys and Gray either, and they have never been friends of Liverpool FC. However, I refuse to rejoice in their current embarrassment, because that would be handing a little victory to Political Correctness. Why the hell should women want to officiate in men's football matches? The young woman who ran the line in our match did OK, but why was she there in the first place?
It brings to mind this passage from Boswell's "Life of Johnson:"
"I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=Portly link=topic=43778.msg1260425#msg1260425 date=1295861038]
I don't like Keys and Gray either, and they have never been friends of Liverpool FC. However, I refuse to rejoice in their current embarrassment, because that would be handing a little victory to Political Correctness. Why the hell should women want to officiate in men's football matches? The young woman who ran the line in our match did OK, but why was she there in the first place?
It brings to mind this passage from Boswell's "Life of Johnson:"
"I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
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I would have thought a football official should be judged solely on their ability to officiate irrespective, of gender.
And god knows there are plenty of shit male ones.
[quote author=Portly link=topic=43778.msg1260425#msg1260425 date=1295861038]
I don't like Keys and Gray either, and they have never been friends of Liverpool FC. However, I refuse to rejoice in their current embarrassment, because that would be handing a little victory to Political Correctness. Why the hell should women want to officiate in men's football matches? The young woman who ran the line in our match did OK, but why was she there in the first place?
It brings to mind this passage from Boswell's "Life of Johnson:"
"I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
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I would have thought a football official should be judged solely on their ability to officiate irrespective, of gender.
And god knows there are plenty of shit male ones.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
I agree Andy Gray knows his football and his analysis is good, but it always seems to me as if he harbours a dislike for Liverpool FC, which would not be surprising considering he is a former Bluenose. This comes out when he is co-commenting on Derby matches. If Everton have an unsuccessful penalty appeal against a Liverpool player, Andy will keep on re-playing the incident and tut-tutting, whereas if Liverpool appeal for a penalty, Andy tends to brush it aside.
I agree Andy Gray knows his football and his analysis is good, but it always seems to me as if he harbours a dislike for Liverpool FC, which would not be surprising considering he is a former Bluenose. This comes out when he is co-commenting on Derby matches. If Everton have an unsuccessful penalty appeal against a Liverpool player, Andy will keep on re-playing the incident and tut-tutting, whereas if Liverpool appeal for a penalty, Andy tends to brush it aside.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=the count link=topic=43778.msg1260428#msg1260428 date=1295861506]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=43778.msg1260425#msg1260425 date=1295861038]
I don't like Keys and Gray either, and they have never been friends of Liverpool FC. However, I refuse to rejoice in their current embarrassment, because that would be handing a little victory to Political Correctness. Why the hell should women want to officiate in men's football matches? The young woman who ran the line in our match did OK, but why was she there in the first place?
It brings to mind this passage from Boswell's "Life of Johnson:"
"I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
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I would have thought a football official should be judged solely on their ability to officiate irrespective, of gender.
And god knows there are plenty of shit male ones.
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I agree count. Though the SJ quote is a doozie portly.
[quote author=the count link=topic=43778.msg1260428#msg1260428 date=1295861506]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=43778.msg1260425#msg1260425 date=1295861038]
I don't like Keys and Gray either, and they have never been friends of Liverpool FC. However, I refuse to rejoice in their current embarrassment, because that would be handing a little victory to Political Correctness. Why the hell should women want to officiate in men's football matches? The young woman who ran the line in our match did OK, but why was she there in the first place?
It brings to mind this passage from Boswell's "Life of Johnson:"
"I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
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I would have thought a football official should be judged solely on their ability to officiate irrespective, of gender.
And god knows there are plenty of shit male ones.
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I agree count. Though the SJ quote is a doozie portly.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
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Haha. Did he do that?? Brilliant.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
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Haha. Did he do that?? Brilliant.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
[/quote]Kenny likes Sky as much as we do. I guess he is a Liverpool fan first and foremost after all.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
[/quote]Kenny likes Sky as much as we do. I guess he is a Liverpool fan first and foremost after all.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=the count link=topic=43778.msg1260555#msg1260555 date=1295867679]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
[/quote]Kenny likes Sky as much as we do. I guess he is a Liverpool fan first and foremost after all.
[/quote]
Did you really doubt that?
[quote author=the count link=topic=43778.msg1260555#msg1260555 date=1295867679]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
[/quote]Kenny likes Sky as much as we do. I guess he is a Liverpool fan first and foremost after all.
[/quote]
Did you really doubt that?
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=43778.msg1260569#msg1260569 date=1295868067]
[quote author=the count link=topic=43778.msg1260555#msg1260555 date=1295867679]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
[/quote]Kenny likes Sky as much as we do. I guess he is a Liverpool fan first and foremost after all.
[/quote]
Did you really doubt that?
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No ???
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=43778.msg1260569#msg1260569 date=1295868067]
[quote author=the count link=topic=43778.msg1260555#msg1260555 date=1295867679]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43778.msg1260495#msg1260495 date=1295865836]
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Amused to hear Kenny Dalglish began today's presser by asking Sky's @VinnOConnor if he was ok with a female journo being in the room
[/quote]Kenny likes Sky as much as we do. I guess he is a Liverpool fan first and foremost after all.
[/quote]
Did you really doubt that?
[/quote]
No ???
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
[quote author=Portly link=topic=43778.msg1260454#msg1260454 date=1295863098]
I agree Andy Gray knows his football and his analysis is good, but it always seems to me as if he harbours a dislike for Liverpool FC, which would not be surprising considering he is a former Bluenose. This comes out when he is co-commenting on Derby matches. If Everton have an unsuccessful penalty appeal against a Liverpool player, Andy will keep on re-playing the incident and tut-tutting, whereas if Liverpool appeal for a penalty, Andy tends to brush it aside.
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And the rest. He criticises 95% of decisions going our way and always supports the ones which don't. It isn't important, but it is annoying.
[quote author=Portly link=topic=43778.msg1260454#msg1260454 date=1295863098]
I agree Andy Gray knows his football and his analysis is good, but it always seems to me as if he harbours a dislike for Liverpool FC, which would not be surprising considering he is a former Bluenose. This comes out when he is co-commenting on Derby matches. If Everton have an unsuccessful penalty appeal against a Liverpool player, Andy will keep on re-playing the incident and tut-tutting, whereas if Liverpool appeal for a penalty, Andy tends to brush it aside.
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And the rest. He criticises 95% of decisions going our way and always supports the ones which don't. It isn't important, but it is annoying.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
Its Keys i cant stand out of the two, at least with Gray you know he is a football man through and through and for all his anti Liverpool bias he still recognises quality when we put on a good show, he is not impartial, not at all but thats forgivable considering he is a Blue.
Keys with his pre-scripted shit stirring agenda is the one i cant stand, i don't mind if he is sacked at all, since he's shaved his hands he's not even comical to look at.
Its Keys i cant stand out of the two, at least with Gray you know he is a football man through and through and for all his anti Liverpool bias he still recognises quality when we put on a good show, he is not impartial, not at all but thats forgivable considering he is a Blue.
Keys with his pre-scripted shit stirring agenda is the one i cant stand, i don't mind if he is sacked at all, since he's shaved his hands he's not even comical to look at.
Re: Gray and Keys caught out
I wouldn't have a second commentator full stop.
And when they do, surely they're meant to be there to explain what is going on, yet a trend seems to have developed whereby they are constantly expressing their opinions. Who gives a shit about their opinions?
I wouldn't have a second commentator full stop.
And when they do, surely they're meant to be there to explain what is going on, yet a trend seems to have developed whereby they are constantly expressing their opinions. Who gives a shit about their opinions?
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Re: Gray and Keys caught out
I'd be more concerned if they said something insightful and non-bias.
I'd be more concerned if they said something insightful and non-bias.
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