Gerrards in trouble

[Asbo]

Gerrard 'struck with boxer speed'


Liverpool footballer Steven Gerrard lost his temper and hit a man "with the style and speed of a boxer" during a row over music, a court has heard.

Marcus McGee, 34, was assaulted by the England midfielder when he refused to hand over control of a CD player at the Lounge Inn, Southport, it was alleged.

Mr Gerrard, 29, took offence when the businessman refused the request, said David Turner QC, prosecuting.

Mr Gerrard is on trial at Liverpool Crown Court and denies affray.

The midfielder, of Formby, Merseyside, had been celebrating Liverpool's 5-1 Premier League win over Newcastle United at the bar.

Marcus McGee was injured in the bar in the early hours of 29 December 2008.

Accrington Stanley

Five other defendants have admitted affray and one admitted a lesser charge of section 4 threatening behaviour.

John McGrattan, 34, of Rimmer Avenue, Huyton, admitted threatening behaviour after denying affray.

Those who admitted affray were: Ian Gerrard Smith, 19, of Hilary Avenue; John Doran, 29, of Woodlands Road; and Paul McGrattan, 31, of Linden Drive, all Huyton.

Accrington Stanley footballers Robert Grant, 19, of Enstsone Avenue, Litherland, and Ian Dunbavin, 28, of Guildford Road, Southport, also admitted affray.

The trial continues.

He's saying Gerrards the one who hospitalised him.....

 

[reuque]

Fucking hell I can't help but imagine that IF he is convicted, we're just fucked up!

 

[Jack D Rips]

I suspect that when the defence get going they will tear the procecution allegations to shreds.

Why would he deny the charges if the others admit to it? What sentences are the others likely to receive?

 

[LarryHagman]

I think affray can carry a custodial sentence although it doesn't usually I suspect.

 

[spider-Neil]

uh oh... :-X

 

[Squiggles]

He won't go to prison for a punch thrown in a bar.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34836.msg909654#msg909654 date=1248177593]
He won't go to prison for a punch thrown in a bar.
[/quote]

you can't get thrown in jail for GBH?

 

[Squiggles]

Is that what he's being charged with?

 

[Jack D Rips]

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5446443,00.html

Oh fuck!

 

[Richey]

The sentence obviously depends on severity, pre-motivation, use of weapons, previous record etc.
It appears to be quite a wide ranging offence and it can carry a very hefty prison sentence but this clearly wasn't that serious.
If he is found guilty it will probably be a very large fine and some community service. When Woodgate got convicted of affray he got community service.

 

[rebel23]

innocent until proven guilty

 

[ILD]

That article is making him out to sound like a right cunt.

 

[H]

all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.

 

[cochyn]

A story clearly sensationalised by the case for the prosecution and to some extent the press

If found guilty he will get community service, as i guess he has no other criminal convictions and all the deal making and pleading means he will not end up in jail. Maybe a tag like pennant had a few years back.

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34836.msg909663#msg909663 date=1248178079]
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5446443,00.html

Oh fuck!
[/quote]

Oh please, he was mad "At the man who said no to Steven Gerrard" there making him out like he thinks he's some sort out god. Utter Sensationalist bullshit. If Gerrard hit him i'm sure there was some proper provacation other than this man disrespecting his god like aura.

 

[Roopy]

Who cares, we have Lucas 8)

 

[Niall K]

[quote author=H link=topic=34836.msg909673#msg909673 date=1248178415]
all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.
[/quote]

Unless of course he did twat him and there is CCTV that shows it

 

[Atlas]

[quote author=ILD link=topic=34836.msg909670#msg909670 date=1248178318]
That article is making him out to sound like a right cunt.
[/quote]

It's the prosecution who are making him sound like that, and that is their job

 

[Hansern]

[quote author=ILD link=topic=34836.msg909670#msg909670 date=1248178318]
That article is making him out to sound like a right cunt.
[/quote]

It really does. And if Gerrard really did do all this, then why didn't his well paid legal advicers instruct him to plead guilty. Surely he would have gotten a lesser punishment for pleading guilty, then to plead not guilty and then being caught lying aswell.

If he's found in any way guilty, I guess community service is on the cards. Woodgates affray charge was much much worse if I remember correctly.

 

[LarryHagman]

It's interesting that some people would view him getting community service, a fine or a tag as a 'let-off'. Strangely not mentioning the unwanted negative attention heaped on the club by it's captain and senior International.
If he's guilty of course.

 

[Jürgen4PM]

3 years is the max sentence apparently.

 

[barrymac20]

[quote author=Niall K link=topic=34836.msg909680#msg909680 date=1248178868]
[quote author=H link=topic=34836.msg909673#msg909673 date=1248178415]
all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.
[/quote]

Unless of course he did twat him and there is CCTV that shows it
[/quote]

CCTV footage shows one fella giving your man an elbow and then shows gerrard lacing into him with uppercuts. Thats accoding to The Mirrors coverage of the case.

 

[Niall K]

[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=34836.msg909684#msg909684 date=1248179116]
It's interesting that some people would view him getting community service, a fine or a tag as a 'let-off'. Strangely not mentioning the unwanted negative attention heaped on the club by it's captain and senior International.
If he's guilty of course.



[/quote]

The negative attention hit the club the minute he was arrested now its just a case of hoping he doesnt get locked up.

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34836.msg909682#msg909682 date=1248179020]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=34836.msg909670#msg909670 date=1248178318]
That article is making him out to sound like a right cunt.
[/quote]

It really does. And if Gerrard really did do all this, then why didn't his well paid legal advicers instruct him to plead guilty. Surely he would have gotten a lesser punishment for pleading guilty, then to plead not guilty and then being caught lying aswell.

If he's found in any way guilty, I guess community service is on the cards. Woodgates affray charge was much much worse if I remember correctly.
[/quote]

The Woodgate incident was worse but he was originally charged with GBH and some other lad took the rap for that and got sent down.

Gerrard can't plead guilty because he has already said he didn't do it, so he would then be admitting to doing the act itself and also to lying to the club about it.

 

[Niall K]

[quote author=barrymac20 link=topic=34836.msg909687#msg909687 date=1248179235]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=34836.msg909680#msg909680 date=1248178868]
[quote author=H link=topic=34836.msg909673#msg909673 date=1248178415]
all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.
[/quote]

Unless of course he did twat him and there is CCTV that shows it
[/quote]

CCTV footage shows one fella giving your man an elbow and then shows gerrard lacing into him with uppercuts. Thats accoding to The Mirrors coverage of the case.
[/quote]

That could cause a few problems alright

 

[Mystic]

Leeds United soccer star Jonathan Woodgate was today found guilty of affray but cleared of causing grievous bodily harm with intent in a brutal street attack on an Asian student.

Leeds United soccer star Jonathan Woodgate was today found guilty of affray but cleared of causing grievous bodily harm with intent in a brutal street attack on an Asian student.

His team–mate Lee Bowyer was cleared of causing GBH with intent and affray by a jury at Hull Crown Court.. Woodgate's friend Paul Clifford was found guilty of causing GBH and affray. Another friend Neale Caveney was found guilty of affray but cleared of causing GBH.
Woodgate was sentenced to 100 hours of community service while Clifford received a six -year prison sentence. Caveney received the same community service sentence as Woodgate.

Woodgate, 21, of Middlesbrough, Bowyer, 24, of Leeds, and Paul Clifford and Neale Caveney, both 22 and from Middlesbrough, all denied causing Sarfraz Najeib grievous bodily harm with intent. They also denied affray.

The 21–year–old student's injuries included a broken nose and cheekbone and a fractured leg. Clifford bit him on the cheek during the attack.

The prosecution alleged that Mr Najeib and his friends were chased through the city centre following a confrontation outside the Majestyk nightclub. The Leeds Metropolitan University student,fromf Rotherham, South Yorkshire, was caught in Mill Hill where he was attacked.

Woodgate, Clifford and Caveney told the jury they took no part in the attack. They claimed to have watched an incident from the top of Mill Hill.

Bowyer told Hull Crown Court he did not enter Mill Hill that night because he was assaulted in Boar Lane and was left dazed before making his way back to the Majestyk.

The jury of seven women and five men retired on Monday to consider their verdicts on Monday afternoon after an eight week trial.

The first trial collapsed after an article in the Sunday Mirror. The cost of both trials has been estimated at £15 million.

Woodgates sounds much worse and he got off with it.

 

[Squiggles]

If guilty, does Steven Gerrard deserve the captaincy still?

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Niall K link=topic=34836.msg909691#msg909691 date=1248179358]
[quote author=barrymac20 link=topic=34836.msg909687#msg909687 date=1248179235]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=34836.msg909680#msg909680 date=1248178868]
[quote author=H link=topic=34836.msg909673#msg909673 date=1248178415]
all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.
[/quote]

Unless of course he did twat him and there is CCTV that shows it
[/quote]

CCTV footage shows one fella giving your man an elbow and then shows gerrard lacing into him with uppercuts. Thats accoding to The Mirrors coverage of the case.
[/quote]

That could cause a few problems alright
[/quote]

If that is actually what it does show then yes.

However, CCTV isn't the brilliant evidence that it is often made out to be.

Remember a few years back when John Terry and Jody Morris were accused of beating the shit out of that doorman? There was CCTV of that I believe and they both got found not guilty.

 

[LarryHagman]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34836.msg909695#msg909695 date=1248179572]
If guilty, does Steven Gerrard deserve the captaincy still?
[/quote]

If guilty, there would have to be some internal discipline measure, not sure what.

 

[Mors]

Even if he gets found guilty he wont get a custodial, he's a footballer, he'll get off with some nice light community service and a fine.