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General UK politics

The problem with this version of the labour party is they're all student union reps from the 90s and 00s. The most joyless bunch of wankers since they invented Presbyterianism. Would I rather have them in power than the tories? Obv yes. Do I like them? Obv no.
 
The problem with this version of the labour party is they're all student union reps from the 90s and 00s. The most joyless bunch of wankers since they invented Presbyterianism. Would I rather have them in power than the tories? Obv yes. Do I like them? Obv no.

I'm not seeing the difference between either of the two main parties they both seem to be staffed by people who are more like middle managers than political leaders.

The only thing they inspire in me is deep sleep. I suppose I should be grateful for that at least.
 
They're gonna essentially be mediocre though aren't they? I mean, it's not a great job really.
 
Keith Starmer has the personality of a cold boiled shit. I don't like him. But that quality or whatever you'd call it makes him infinitely more qualified to do the job than ANY tory cunt. Because he wants to do the job because he wants to do the job. Not the next job or the job after that.
 
Remember the dog on the TV show That's Life that could say sausages?

Those were the days.
 
My existential angst is highest its been for years.
Labour just not doing it in the first 100 days. Tory MPs making a joke of invading countries and murdering tens of thousands, displacing millions. Assassination attempts in America and it's gonna get worse as the election draws closer and the days after.
Murdering genocidal psychopaths bombing everything they see in the ME.
Let alone the evil still perpetuated on the the Uyghurs, in Sudan (which isn't talked about enough), Syria and more.
 
My existential angst is highest its been for years.
Labour just not doing it in the first 100 days. Tory MPs making a joke of invading countries and murdering tens of thousands, displacing millions. Assassination attempts in America and it's gonna get worse as the election draws closer and the days after.
Murdering genocidal psychopaths bombing everything they see in the ME.
Let alone the evil still perpetuated on the the Uyghurs, in Sudan (which isn't talked about enough), Syria and more.
Let's go for a nice cold pint in the Winchester and wait for it all to blow over.
 
Keir Starmer has hinted at tax rises for those who earn their income from shares and property, saying that they did not fit his definition of “working people”.

Equalising the rates (and possibly adding NI) of unearned income with earned income is the right thing to do.
 
A wealth tax of some sort is the obvious way to get some money back into the system. Problem is all the people who own TV stations, social media companies and newspapers happen to be very wealthy. So they'll keep blaming immigrants.
 
A wealth tax of some sort is the obvious way to get some money back into the system. Problem is all the people who own TV stations, social media companies and newspapers happen to be very wealthy. So they'll keep blaming immigrants.
“The rich will just move abroad”

Completely ignoring what they earn their money is a load of assets you just can’t pack in your luggage and fuck if with.
 
Starmer just needs to grow some balls and realise that the right-leaning press are always going to try to fuck him over no matter what he does - he could literally enact all the shit policies they championed like Rwanda and leaving the ECHR and they’d criticise him for it.

The thing is, he’s got a massive majority and despite his Tay-Tay tickets, his Labour government is not going to be anywhere near as self-serving as the Tories became.

The thing that keeps them in power is “real change” and he needs money to do that - if he tries to do it without money he’s rightly fucked.

Be brave , do the right thing, or those fucks will be back to fill their boots in 5 years time with even worse austerity and Trussonomics.
 
I don’t think increasing employer’s NI is the right approach, already job market seems stagnet and this isn’t going to help. Still not seen any tax usage of AI but would start with that in industries such as Health where effects aren’t obvious.
 
I’d rather see the cash from employers NI go into the pay packet of employees, especially at the lower end.

I try to see where AI can be used in my role, but that will be a real slow burn.
 
Currently if you are on most FTCs then you pay employer NIC and employee NIC so just extra tax for Gov without any of the benefits of a perm employee or protection, it’s counter productive and stupid but maybe I have missed something. It will not end up going to Employee from what I can see.
 
The issue for employers, as an employer of professional people and people in bars, is little things like employer NI contributions. Lots of businesses are on the brink right now.
Lots of business owners take nothing out and put in to pay their staff. What I'm saying is if you don't mind seeing 10,000+ pubs shut down and 100,000 people lose their jobs then this a policy you should endorse. Or maybe your pint just costs an extra 50p.

Or maybe we should just introduce a wealth tax.
 
Ultimately the rise in NI contributions now will lead to slower or no-er pay rises for staff over the next 2-3 years to equalise the uplift in employment costs.

I think the NI contributions should maybe have had a threshold e.g. businesses that employ 1,000 people or more. But also not fully clear on the impact that would have.
 
It'd be nice to address some of the insane procurement contracts hospitals and schools have to contend with.
 
Ultimately the rise in NI contributions now will lead to slower or no-er pay rises for staff over the next 2-3 years to equalise the uplift in employment costs.

I think the NI contributions should maybe have had a threshold e.g. businesses that employ 1,000 people or more. But also not fully clear on the impact that would have.

That wouldn't raise enough for them unless they raised the rate even higher, or raised another tax as well, and they were already clearly tip-toeing around their election pledges.

They would already have consulted with those bigger businesses I imagine to see what they could get away with. It is the medium and small businesses that they don't really pay attention to.
 
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