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Fulham vs Liverpool : OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD

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I dont think even Rafa can control virus, injuries and red cards.

That said the league is gone by november, fan fuckin tastic.

Get everyone fit, start finding our feet, win some games on the trot and take it from there.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=36854.msg975832#msg975832 date=1257008467]
I dont think even Rafa can control virus, injuries and red cards.

That said the league is gone by november, fan fuckin tastic.

Get everyone fit, start finding our feet, win some games on the trot and take it from there.
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That's the spirit.
 
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36854.msg975812#msg975812 date=1257008206]
Anyone still believe?


[/quote] Title no
top 4 yeah
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CL ?
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You think our defence is good enough to do that? I don't
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=36854.msg975832#msg975832 date=1257008467]
I dont think even Rafa can control virus, injuries and red cards.

That said the league is gone by november, fan fuckin tastic.

Get everyone fit, start finding our feet, win some games on the trot and take it from there.
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whatever - why take torres and then yossi off? he gave up. he has form.

has he quit yet?
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=36854.msg975785#msg975785 date=1257007915]
the game changed when the cunt took torres off. yossi shouting fuck off as he came off instead of voronin was another mistake.

indefensible what took place today.

the league challenge is over in october and the champions league group qualification in an average group hangs on a thread.

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Lol at rage not getting banned for that.
 
We are nine point behind Chelsea with 27 matches to go. I know it dont look good, but you cant give up on 31st October
 
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[quote author=rage link=topic=36854.msg975785#msg975785 date=1257007915]
the game changed when the cunt took torres off. yossi shouting fuck off as he came off instead of voronin was another mistake.

indefensible what took place today.

the league challenge is over in october and the champions league group qualification in an average group hangs on a thread.

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Lol at rage not getting banned for that.
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i'll modify it if it'll make you feel better. i am past anger, i'm actually distraught - really unbelievable what just took place.
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=36854.msg975860#msg975860 date=1257008871]
I know it dont look good, but you cant give up on 31st October
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The manager did.
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=36854.msg975860#msg975860 date=1257008871]
We are nine point behind Chelsea with 27 matches to go. I know it dont look good, but you cant give up on 31st October
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You can.

It'll make you feel a lot better.

Trus' me.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
 
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

I just wouldn't trust the two gimps who own us to get a decent replacement and for that reason I can't see the point in sacking him. Unfortunately we're stuck with an inept manager and inept owners. Basically we're fucked.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

They are but the lack of perspective is astounding.

The team has been struck down by H1N1 it seems in the last few days and add existing injuries to the mix and these players were not available : Gerrard, Johnson, Aurelio, Riera, Skrtel, Agger, Aquilani, Kelly, N'Gog, there are 4 arguably five or six 1st teamers there and the rest would more than likely make the bench so really .......

WTF were people expecting ? A walk-over against a team that hasn't lost at home for 2 months ? It was never going to be easy but we dominated the 1st half. It was the 2nd where it all fell apart.

I want to know why Torres came off (existing injury ?) and Yossi (fuck knows) ? Otherwise not much to complain about as far as the team selection was concerned. The undeserved red card for Degen was the real turning point.
 
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

chainsaws2.jpg
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36854.msg975922#msg975922 date=1257010201]
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

I just wouldn't trust the two gimps who own us to get a decent replacement and for that reason I can't see the point in sacking him. Unfortunately we're stuck with an inept manager and inept owners. Basically we're fucked.
[/quote]

we'll be better 2nd half of the season i wonder if there will be much to play for
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36854.msg975930#msg975930 date=1257010550]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36854.msg975922#msg975922 date=1257010201]
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

I just wouldn't trust the two gimps who own us to get a decent replacement and for that reason I can't see the point in sacking him. Unfortunately we're stuck with an inept manager and inept owners. Basically we're fucked.
[/quote]

we'll be better 2nd half of the season i wonder if there will be much to play for


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4th place is all your interested in anyway Rebel so you might have a bit of an exciting time of it yet.
 
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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36854.msg975930#msg975930 date=1257010550]
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[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

I just wouldn't trust the two gimps who own us to get a decent replacement and for that reason I can't see the point in sacking him. Unfortunately we're stuck with an inept manager and inept owners. Basically we're fucked.
[/quote]

we'll be better 2nd half of the season i wonder if there will be much to play for


[/quote]

4th place is all your interested in anyway Rebel so you might have a bit of an exciting time of it yet.
[/quote]

No, I want to win the league and you know that but clearly it isnt going to happen so the target will shift and become that and the FA cup (which we'll make a pigs ear of)
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36854.msg975935#msg975935 date=1257010771]
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36854.msg975922#msg975922 date=1257010201]
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

I just wouldn't trust the two gimps who own us to get a decent replacement and for that reason I can't see the point in sacking him. Unfortunately we're stuck with an inept manager and inept owners. Basically we're fucked.
[/quote]

we'll be better 2nd half of the season i wonder if there will be much to play for


[/quote]

4th place is all your interested in anyway Rebel so you might have a bit of an exciting time of it yet.
[/quote]

No, I want to win the league and you know that but clearly it isnt going to happen so the target will shift and become that and the FA cup (which we'll make a pigs ear of)


[/quote]

So you're still happy to put up with shit like this year after year as long as we qualify for the Champions' League?
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

And they shouldn't be, I suppose..?
 
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=36854.msg975923#msg975923 date=1257010207]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

They are but the lack of perspective is astounding.

The team has been struck down by H1N1 it seems in the last few days and add existing injuries to the mix and these players were not available : Gerrard, Johnson, Aurelio, Riera, Skrtel, Agger, Aquilani, Kelly, N'Gog, there are 4 arguably five or six 1st teamers there and the rest would more than likely make the bench so really .......

WTF were people expecting ? A walk-over against a team that hasn't lost at home for 2 months ? It was never going to be easy but we dominated the 1st half. It was the 2nd where it all fell apart.

I want to know why Torres came off (existing injury ?) and Yossi (fuck knows) ? Otherwise not much to complain about as far as the team selection was concerned. The undeserved red card for Degen was the real turning point.
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I couldn't agree more. The number of injuries and potential flu cases would cause many problems for any team, so you just have to deal with it as best as you can. I believe Torres is still not 100% fit, so was bound to be taken off at some point. If you're not 100% you don't keep someone on, as more than likely you could make these injuries worse. Trust me, I know what can happen having worked in sports rehabilitation, you have to look at the bigger and long term picture. As for Yossi, I'm unsure whyhe was taken off. I'm sure rafa will explain.

Very annoying day. The league looks very difficult from here, but we've got to move on and hope we can beat Lyon in midweek.
 
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[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36854.msg975917#msg975917 date=1257009951]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]big ones at that..
[/quote]

I just wouldn't trust the two gimps who own us to get a decent replacement and for that reason I can't see the point in sacking him. Unfortunately we're stuck with an inept manager and inept owners. Basically we're fucked.
[/quote]

we'll be better 2nd half of the season i wonder if there will be much to play for


[/quote]

4th place is all your interested in anyway Rebel so you might have a bit of an exciting time of it yet.
[/quote]

No, I want to win the league and you know that but clearly it isnt going to happen so the target will shift and become that and the FA cup (which we'll make a pigs ear of)


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So you're still happy to put up with shit like this year after year as long as we qualify for the Champions' League?
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we're only in the situation because of circumstance like injuries, not enough money/investment in the squad. The manager can be anyone, they all have their own infuriating ways but it wont change the circumstance. Proof is for however many dark days Benitez overperforms with what he has
 
Injuries, swine flu, suspension, and still Lucas plays

I tell you what, if there is a Third World War, the only things left alive will be rats, cockroaches and that cunt Lucas, standing there bewildered
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=36854.msg975938#msg975938 date=1257010922]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

And they shouldn't be, I suppose..?


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So after today you want him gone now too then?

If that is the case who's coming in to replace him?
Who's paying the money to sack him off?
You trust Cunt & Cunt to find the right replacement?
Who's even available to come in at this point of the season?

Rafa's got a lot to answer for, but right now only a idiot would think that it's in our best interests to get rid of him.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=36854.msg975946#msg975946 date=1257011251]
Injuries, swine flu, suspension, and still Lucas plays

I tell you what, if there is a Third World War, the only things left alive will be rats, cockroaches and that cunt Lucas, standing there bewildered
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That made me laugh. Cheers for brightening up a shit day Brendan.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975949#msg975949 date=1257011302]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=36854.msg975938#msg975938 date=1257010922]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

And they shouldn't be, I suppose..?


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So after today you want him gone now too then?

If that is the case who's coming in to replace him?
Who's paying the money to sack him off?
You trust Cunt & Cunt to find the right replacement?
Who's even available to come in at this point of the season?

Rafa's got a lot to answer for, but right now only a idiot would think that it's in our best interests to get rid of him.

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Yeah, 'cos I said "let's get rid of...", didn't I?

Your post suggested that you felt the critisism of Rafa today is unwarranted. I responded to that and that alone.

Unfortunately, we're not in a position to remove him, even if that was the correct thing to do. Which is a disasterous position to be in, I'm sure even you would agree...
 
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[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=36854.msg975938#msg975938 date=1257010922]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

And they shouldn't be, I suppose..?


[/quote]

So after today you want him gone now too then?

If that is the case who's coming in to replace him?
Who's paying the money to sack him off?
You trust Cunt & Cunt to find the right replacement?
Who's even available to come in at this point of the season?

Rafa's got a lot to answer for, but right now only a idiot would think that it's in our best interests to get rid of him.

[/quote]

Yeah, 'cos I said "let's get rid of...", didn't I?

Your post suggested that you felt the critisism of Rafa today is unwarranted. I responded to that and that alone.

Unfortunately, we're not in a position to remove him, even if that was the correct thing to do. Which is a disasterous position to be in, I'm sure even you would agree...
[/quote]

I didn't suggest anything of the sort.

I will agree though that due to injuries, Rafa and most importantly the yanks, this season is turning into a disaster.
 
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[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=36854.msg975938#msg975938 date=1257010922]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36854.msg975867#msg975867 date=1257009071]
The knives are really out today!
[/quote]

And they shouldn't be, I suppose..?


[/quote]

So after today you want him gone now too then?

If that is the case who's coming in to replace him?
Who's paying the money to sack him off?
You trust Cunt & Cunt to find the right replacement?
Who's even available to come in at this point of the season?

Rafa's got a lot to answer for, but right now only a idiot would think that it's in our best interests to get rid of him.

[/quote]

Yeah, 'cos I said "let's get rid of...", didn't I?

Your post suggested that you felt the critisism of Rafa today is unwarranted. I responded to that and that alone.

Unfortunately, we're not in a position to remove him, even if that was the correct thing to do. Which is a disasterous position to be in, I'm sure even you would agree...
[/quote]

I didn't suggest anything of the sort.

I will agree though that due to injuries, Rafa and most importantly the yanks, this season is turning into a disaster.
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Agreed.

We're the wrong result or two away from having only the f#$!ing Cup left to play for. In Novermber.

And credit to you for recognising that Rafa's part of the reason behind that.
 
Think we're out of the Carling Cup, Dallas.

Rafa, why exactly is it 'most importantly the yanks'?
 
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