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I don't know about you lot but I've totally lost interest in football.

I don't even really care if I miss the World Cup or not and/or if Liverpool go on a winning spree (and I mean winning *ALL* games starting from now till the end of the season)...and I'd still not be too fussed about football.

This is very strange because prior to this season, I considered myself a die-hard, superfan of the game. I'd know every player there is in the top leagues, know every stats and profile of every single player of our club...but this season, I could care less. Actually, the symptoms appeared last season when there were moments, despite watching great, thrilling games, such as the 4-1 win over the scums, or the 4-4 draw with the arse, and the cliffhangers with the chavs, my ecstasy never really reached or come close to the heights that I've experienced, notably, the CL 2005 win.

Is this a sign of maturity ? or simply realizing there's so much more important things in life to experience and enjoy than watching and getting drunk over a game of footie with the lads ? I doubt it has much to do with our poor season either. Take this season for example, I don't even care who will be the next superstar. Ashamedly and to my shock, I sometimes find myself never hearing some of the names being brandished on this forum. (I used to love spotting the young gems who will make it big in the very near future).

I don't think I'll completely switch my mind off football because I still love the game and Liverpool FC. But my fervor for the game has definitely nose-dived drastically.

Am I the only person feeling this way ?
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=37898.msg1013859#msg1013859 date=1260793213]
I doubt it's a sign of maturity
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Hahaha
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=37898.msg1013859#msg1013859 date=1260793213]
I doubt it's a sign of maturity
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This coming from an immature sod who finds it fun and amusing to ruin my thread.

If you have nothing to contribute or share, please just leave. I don't want to engage in exchange of verbal diarrhea either.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=37898.msg1013866#msg1013866 date=1260793523]
[quote author=Asim link=topic=37898.msg1013859#msg1013859 date=1260793213]
I doubt it's a sign of maturity
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This coming from an immature sod who finds it fun and amusing to ruin my thread.

If you have nothing to contribute or share, please just leave. I don't want to engage in exchange of verbal diarrhea either.
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I hardly ruined the thread, I posted seven fucking words!

I doubt you are the only one to feel this of course not, I have been feeling like this for nearly 2 seasons (and said this season would be shit before a ball was kicked the air around the club has been horrid since pre-season) It is mainly due to the immaturity of people who take footballing 'banter' passed the line and post/text/email/FB shit daily.
My Sunday league side has had the same fortune with injuries and rub of the green as LFC at the moment and it cuts me up inside I can't handle it on a daily basis.

I also think you fool yourself in an attempt to make yourself feel better by saying it has little to with our poor season, cos it most likely is to do with that considering how dire we are have been. I'm sure if you are/were a die hard fan you will soon come round and snap out of it.


So in summary: I doubt it's a sign of maturity.
 
Not sure about that Asim.

I'm actually afraid to watch the coming World Cup, which is weird. Simply because I feel obligated to catch up with the profiles of each team and pretend to join in the excitement that everyone displays because its the world cup season. I'm afraid to admit it when ppl ask me about a game and I missed it because I couldnt be arsed to watch it.

It's like I'm suffering OCD of football. Footballivitis. If I follow a tourney, I'd have to know and research every single thing there is to know about every team. I'd have to whip up a very carefully planned and detailed report of every team to aid my gambling of every game.

And this time, all the above freaks me out. I don't gamble anymore and I don't enjoy getting pissed over a game anymore either. I don't get the nerve-wrecking moments from watching the game anymore (not sure if it's because of our torridly bad season).

Shit. I'm a bit worried now. Maybe I have *really* fallen out of love with the game. :-(
 
Just go and support Chelsea. They're at the top of the table right now, football won't be depressing and I reckon you'd fit in better as well.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=37898.msg1013855#msg1013855 date=1260793091]
I don't know about you lot but I've totally lost interest in football.

I don't even really care if I miss the World Cup or not and/or if Liverpool go on a winning spree (and I mean winning *ALL* games starting from now till the end of the season)...and I'd still not be too fussed about football.

This is very strange because prior to this season, I considered myself a die-hard, superfan of the game. I'd know every player there is in the top leagues, know every stats and profile of every single player of our club...but this season, I could care less. Actually, the symptoms appeared last season when there were moments, despite watching great, thrilling games, such as the 4-1 win over the scums, or the 4-4 draw with the arse, and the cliffhangers with the chavs, my ecstasy never really reached or come close to the heights that I've experienced, notably, the CL 2005 win.

Is this a sign of maturity ? or simply realizing there's so much more important things in life to experience and enjoy than watching and getting drunk over a game of footie with the lads ? I doubt it has much to do with our poor season either. Take this season for example, I don't even care who will be the next superstar. Ashamedly and to my shock, I sometimes find myself never hearing some of the names being brandished on this forum. (I used to love spotting the young gems who will make it big in the very near future).

I don't think I'll completely switch my mind off football because I still love the game and Liverpool FC. But my fervor for the game has definitely nose-dived drastically.

Am I the only person feeling this way ?
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Does this mean you might stop posting here? Bonus!!!
 
Well don't feel you have to force yourself Roger. I'm sure everyone will understand if you decide to take a long break from discussing football on here.

You might want to avoid General Chat too. And Music, Film and TV. Just to be on the safe side.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=37898.msg1013879#msg1013879 date=1260794981]
Not sure about that Asim.

I'm actually afraid to watch the coming World Cup, which is weird. Simply because I feel obligated to catch up with the profiles of each team and pretend to join in the excitement that everyone displays because its the world cup season. I'm afraid to admit it when ppl ask me about a game and I missed it because I couldnt be arsed to watch it.

It's like I'm suffering OCD of football. Footballivitis. If I follow a tourney, I'd have to know and research every single thing there is to know about every team. I'd have to whip up a very carefully planned and detailed report of every team to aid my gambling of every game.

And this time, all the above freaks me out. I don't gamble anymore and I don't enjoy getting pissed over a game anymore either. I don't get the nerve-wrecking moments from watching the game anymore (not sure if it's because of our torridly bad season).

Shit. I'm a bit worried now. Maybe I have *really* fallen out of love with the game. :-(
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Ok let me put it to you like this then.

You first point about being afraid to admit to others would suggest you are more concerned about others people thoughts and joining in the fun and excitement with other people rather than for the actual fun and excitement of the game/tournament.

You don't gamble any more so maybe your excitement for the game was more about how much money you were hoping to win rather than appreciating the fine art that is football? which would like I said before suggest you were not as die hard as you thought you were?

I'm not trying to tell you that you are a shit fan or anything (I will leave that to the rest of the forum), plenty of people do go through patches where they fall out of love with the game and it gets hard to handle the heart break weekly so you are not alone. Just that maybe you were wrong to perceive yourself as a super die-hard fan
 
I know what you mean Rog.
Football has lost some of it's lustre

Shit clubs like City and Chelsea have almost bottomless pits of money, and even if Tom and George wanted to compete they just can't. While we were bumbling around almost being top of the pile again we stood a chance of doing it, with only really United and Arsenal as competition, and the money that came to keep those sides at the top was from football and football related business.


regards.
 
Ireland getting beat in the playoffs knocked the shit out of me. Finding it very hard to get back into it since then.
 
Don't be mean to poor Roger. I know what he means. Sort of.

I manage to convince myself every weekend that I don't really care about football. And yet in the week-long build up to our next match, I manage to get excited again. It's what happens when you lose all the time.

Nobody likes to lose, and when it happens so frequently, you find ways of numbing the pain. The most obvious one is to convince yourself that you don't care. And when it become normality (as it has been of late), you kind of become numb to it.

There's been so many lows recently that we've forgotten the highs it brings. We just need a couple of reminders to spark the enthusiasm, I believe. That, and a marked improvement on our league position.
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=37898.msg1013889#msg1013889 date=1260796356]
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=37898.msg1013879#msg1013879 date=1260794981]
Not sure about that Asim.

I'm actually afraid to watch the coming World Cup, which is weird. Simply because I feel obligated to catch up with the profiles of each team and pretend to join in the excitement that everyone displays because its the world cup season. I'm afraid to admit it when ppl ask me about a game and I missed it because I couldnt be arsed to watch it.

It's like I'm suffering OCD of football. Footballivitis. If I follow a tourney, I'd have to know and research every single thing there is to know about every team. I'd have to whip up a very carefully planned and detailed report of every team to aid my gambling of every game.

And this time, all the above freaks me out. I don't gamble anymore and I don't enjoy getting pissed over a game anymore either. I don't get the nerve-wrecking moments from watching the game anymore (not sure if it's because of our torridly bad season).

Shit. I'm a bit worried now. Maybe I have *really* fallen out of love with the game. :-(
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Ok let me put it to you like this then.

You first point about being afraid to admit to others would suggest you are more concerned about others people thoughts and joining in the fun and excitement with other people rather than for the actual fun and excitement of the game/tournament.

You don't gamble any more so maybe your excitement for the game was more about how much money you were hoping to win rather than appreciating the fine art that is football? which would like I said before suggest you were not as die hard as you thought you were?

I'm not trying to tell you that you are a shit fan or anything (I will leave that to the rest of the forum), plenty of people do go through patches where they fall out of love with the game and it gets hard to handle the heart break weekly so you are not alone. Just that maybe you were wrong to perceive yourself as a super die-hard fan
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You're like the worst ever footballing shrink there is.

Instead of sharing, you now force me into a position to need to defend my love for the game (before this post obv).

And I won't bother either. Least of all people, you esp.
 
Actually on more careful thought, I think Vlad has got it right.

Football is no longer about the grace and passion of the game anymore. It's about money, marketing, and business now. Commercialism is killing the game.
 
Hahaha, sure Rog.
I said I am in the same positon myself whereby I don't think I can handle another game, and I have been like this since the beginning of the season I think for me going close last season and still missing out and feeling that it was our best chance killed me off.
I said I don't think you are a shit fan at all for feeling like this but that maybe you are not as absolute die hard as you once thought?
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=37898.msg1013898#msg1013898 date=1260797325]
Actually on more careful thought, I think Vlad has got it right.

Football is no longer about the grace and passion of the game anymore. It's about money, marketing, and business now. Commercialism is killing the game.
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Its been like that for years though. Certainly ever since the Premier League started.

Of course this has had its negative effects on the game as a whole, certainly at lower levels, but in terms of the standard of football it probably hasn't so much.

I think a lot of people round here would agree that they are less interested in football at the moment, but ultimately that is just because we are doing shit. We are not doing shit because of commercialism, marketing and money and no other team that is better in those areas are exactly running away with it at the moment
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=37898.msg1013898#msg1013898 date=1260797325]
Actually on more careful thought, I think Vlad has got it right.

Football is no longer about the grace and passion of the game anymore. It's about money, marketing, and business now. Commercialism is killing the game.
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No, it's not that Roger, commercialism is fine to an extent, it means the most successful well run clubs do well.
What we are seeing is people treating buying in to football to treat it as a status symbol and go on some huge megalomaniac trip to own the best team in the world, and that ain't healthy.

regards
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=37898.msg1013905#msg1013905 date=1260798215]
You wouldn't be feeling like this if we wre winning games, Rog.
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I'm not so sure Avvy , we were winning games last year and I was feeling like it.
Ever since Abramovitch raised his head, things have not seemed right with the game.

regards
 
Every defeat is still a kick in the balls.

The only difference is I now expect it.
 
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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=37898.msg1013905#msg1013905 date=1260798215]
You wouldn't be feeling like this if we wre winning games, Rog.
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I'm not so sure Avvy , we were winning games last year and I was feeling like it.
Ever since Abramovitch raised his head, things have not seemed right with the game.

regards
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Did Roman really do anything different from previous football sugar daddies? Aside from just having more sugar?
 
There is sugar and there is sugar.
I think he did. The top clubs made money out of football and were never really bank-rolled by the chairmen, they were proper clubs and not privately owned.

regards
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37898.msg1013921#msg1013921 date=1260799290]
Every defeat is still a kick in the balls.

The only difference is I now expect it.
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Bingo.

The pain is no longer a sharp, piercing agony. It's now a constant, dull, throbbing.

Like a toothache.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=37898.msg1013905#msg1013905 date=1260798215]
You wouldn't be feeling like this if we wre winning games, Rog.
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Read my original post again. Thank you, please.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37898.msg1013921#msg1013921 date=1260799290]
Every defeat is still a kick in the balls.

The only difference is I now expect it.
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How's the jock strap working out?
 
[quote author=Mersey86 link=topic=37898.msg1014008#msg1014008 date=1260805054]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37898.msg1013921#msg1013921 date=1260799290]
Every defeat is still a kick in the balls.

The only difference is I now expect it.
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How's the jock strap working out?
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Wouldn't that be trying to convince myself I don't care? I can't.

I guess I just laugh and persevere.
 
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