Fenerbahce Confirm Talks with Skrtel ahead of £5.5 Mil move
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I know you've never been a fan of his ... I also know it used to drive you UP THE WALL when people used to slate Agger like Arn is doing now.
Both were solid defenders (see, I'm not saying he's the messiah or one of our bests, and I preferred Agger), and both deserved to be shown respect for their 100% attitude towards the club, loyalty and attitude ON the pitch(which far too few players have it seems at our club).
Now my problem with Arn is obvious - if that bothers you so be it. But I fucking hate hypocrites, and the utter crap he dishes fans who go overboard on Lucas (who's a far more average player than the two CBs I just mentioned) and then pulls the same stunt - and you know why? Because Skrtel was a cunt and insulted Klopp ... I bet he loved him when we almost won the league and Skittles scored important goals and was pretty good in the back. To top it off, he posts A picture showing one glaring mistake Skrtel made (see, I'm acknowledging a mistake) - and then moans when people ignore it after he ignored similar evidence when his idol almost gifted Dortmund a last minute opportunity for an equalizer a few months ago.
So if that's a problem, so be it. You have known me well enough that I'm normally pretty cool with this stuff, and have helped bring back banned posters (a few prominent ones) because after all, it is the internet. But this is tiresome, boring shit that is pissing off quite a few people on site ... and if it comes up again, he can go join Blackie and the others wherever they wish to be.
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If Skrtel had said that made a mistake when he called Klopp a dickhead then it would have been no problem, but he didn't. He blamed a mate.
"I would like to stress that the opinion he expressed is not my opinion".
Guess what, he lied. Instead of making a apology he lied.
When his mate called Klopp a dickhead he agreed with him. No mistake, he agreed with him. It is his opinion.
If you make a mistake like that then at least be a man and make a full apology. He didn't, instead he lied.
I could also show more pictures from more games when he made the same mistake. When it comes down to the Lucas Dortmund thing no one have any proof at all. You don't have that and I don't but you make it look like you have 100% right even that you don't have any proof at all. No one know if he would have been able to make the pass or not, no one. I got banned because I defended Lucas when other posters broke the rules and didn't get banned.
IMO more posters would join the site if the moderators did a better job and banned members as the nameless one who make personal insults every day. Maybe they don't like to be insulted just because they have an opinion. Think about that. Many members here agree with me. The personal insults must stop or very few will join the site.
If you have an opinion then you shouldn't be insulted just because of that. If you show respect to other posters like I do, I don't call them whatever thing you can imagine up like many call me, then you should be respected and not insulted.
It is allowed to have an opinion. It is allowed to discuss and defend players over and over again just as it allowed to blame players over and over again but if you don't make insults then you shouldn't be insulted.
"I would like to stress that the opinion he expressed is not my opinion".
Guess what, he lied. Instead of making a apology he lied.
When his mate called Klopp a dickhead he agreed with him. No mistake, he agreed with him. It is his opinion.
If you make a mistake like that then at least be a man and make a full apology. He didn't, instead he lied.
I could also show more pictures from more games when he made the same mistake. When it comes down to the Lucas Dortmund thing no one have any proof at all. You don't have that and I don't but you make it look like you have 100% right even that you don't have any proof at all. No one know if he would have been able to make the pass or not, no one. I got banned because I defended Lucas when other posters broke the rules and didn't get banned.
IMO more posters would join the site if the moderators did a better job and banned members as the nameless one who make personal insults every day. Maybe they don't like to be insulted just because they have an opinion. Think about that. Many members here agree with me. The personal insults must stop or very few will join the site.
If you have an opinion then you shouldn't be insulted just because of that. If you show respect to other posters like I do, I don't call them whatever thing you can imagine up like many call me, then you should be respected and not insulted.
It is allowed to have an opinion. It is allowed to discuss and defend players over and over again just as it allowed to blame players over and over again but if you don't make insults then you shouldn't be insulted.
I got banned because I had an opinion so it is a little bit difficult to agree with you. I have also been banned from threads because I had an opinion. I didn't insult anyone, just got banned because I had an opinion.
I don't care if I am being insulted but it most probably stops fans joining the site. A couple of old timers want me banned but maybe it is better that they leave and ban a few others that make insults almost every day just for the sake of it. Maybe more fans would join the site if they get banned. The site need new members.
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Hello Arn - I agree with you - he fucked up royally with the Instagram post about Klopp.
I can show you many pictures of Lucas mistakes - match you for each Skrtel one but I don't care (it was just an example). '100% right' like you're claiming here?
You got banned because you were pissing everyone off - even Lucas fans. It was a short term ban - and yet, you've continued doing the same exact shit. I agree with some of your opinions btw - I guess I'm part Arnite.
I dont know Arn and I often find myself disagreeing with him..
But what really pisses me off is to see the mob mods on here like @mark1975 and @Fabio mount their high horses, join forces and then spout all sorts og hatred and vitrol towards a poster that yeah is a bit repetitive and one-dimensional in his views about a player but that is hardly criminal is it? He is certainly not the first nor the last mind you, but he dared to diminish your man Skrtl.
It is pathetic to witness really but not surprising sadly. (Well your reaction did surprise me to be honest but I guess, when in Rome..).
Everyone knew that you'd see a frothing of the mouth Mark and a snidey Fabio go all in this thread as soon as their were less rosy posts about Skrtel..
You are supposed to be grown ups aren't you?
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This really is a pile of @rse, Kristian.
"A bit repetitive/one-dimensional"? The man is obsessive, and constantly revisits those obsessions whether or not those subjects have already come up, like a dog going back to its own vomit. That's what drives normally placid posters up the wall.
And the "your man Skrtel" bit is mighty rich, coming from the original leader of the "sun shines out of Agger's @rse" club. There were nowhere near as many posts about Skrtel till you and one or two others (all of whom oddly enough come from Scandoland) decided to try and make Skrtel a target in order to big up your poster boy. I liked both, but your doing that hasn't helped Agger's rep on here in any way whatsoever.
Kris - what a crock of shit.
You rammed Agger down everyones throats for years on here, venting any frustrations towards his counterpart because you felt bitterness whenever Agger wasn't in the team, so you seemed to think it was your duty to prove Skrtel to be inferior. To the point where people actually grew to resent Agger because you over expressed and over exaggerated his respective qualities.
As for Arn, I find it a bit rich you taking offense to his treatment. Your sentiment is fucking transparent for starters. He's gone to almost the same obsessive lengths as yourself to champion Agger - no fucking wonder you're keen to jump to his defense, because he's singing from same hymn sheet. If you were here more you might be more exposed to his constant repetition, exaggerations, lies and general fucking nuts behaviour. It's not bullying, it's not intollerance, its plenty of generally easygoing people reaching breaking point with a guy who has been pushing his luck.
If you think people are still misuderstanding you and your clear resentment towards Skrtel, then re-read your post above and tell me it's not yet another example of your pitiful sour grapes.
You rammed Agger down everyones throats for years on here, venting any frustrations towards his counterpart because you felt bitterness whenever Agger wasn't in the team, so you seemed to think it was your duty to prove Skrtel to be inferior. To the point where people actually grew to resent Agger because you over expressed and over exaggerated his respective qualities.
As for Arn, I find it a bit rich you taking offense to his treatment. Your sentiment is fucking transparent for starters. He's gone to almost the same obsessive lengths as yourself to champion Agger - no fucking wonder you're keen to jump to his defense, because he's singing from same hymn sheet. If you were here more you might be more exposed to his constant repetition, exaggerations, lies and general fucking nuts behaviour. It's not bullying, it's not intollerance, its plenty of generally easygoing people reaching breaking point with a guy who has been pushing his luck.
If you think people are still misuderstanding you and your clear resentment towards Skrtel, then re-read your post above and tell me it's not yet another example of your pitiful sour grapes.
'My doing'.. that's hillarious really.
And you didn't get my point at all, this is not whether it's well-deserved that mods and posters alike are calling other posters spastics, cum-stains or whatever classy replies the Skrtel mob comes up with when someone dares to question his ability (and his lack of respect towards the club with those tweets)..
It's about the very fact they are doing it in the first place, aiming this low. The fact you are defending this behaviour surprises me as much as seeing Avram's comments. I guess he's really gotten to you this Arn fella..
I dont know the beefs you have got with this poster, but I have read his posts since I came back from my break and apart from being a little repetitive and often airing views I don't agree with (Lucas) I am finding it very hard to see why he deserves so much vitrol. All this hatred towards him seems amazingly aggressive, fairly infantile and, well, pathetic, this whether you think I am talking out of my arse or not.
He's gone. Can we lose this thread now?
I don't lie. The reason is that would be pointless to do it. I would be found out straight away because so many check my posts for mistakes so they can have a go and insult me.
I show links, pictures, articles as proof when I say something. I must always do that. I know what would happen if I didn't.
I may be a shit poster with shit opinions but I don't lie. Many others imagine up lies. One example is about the famous book, the one that is about a part of our history, An Epic Swindle. It is a history book about a part of our history, not a fantasy book.
Accused of lie after lie after lie but it is all in the book. Not a fantasy book. A book about a part of our history. Others lie about our history, made up lies because they are to lazy to find out the truth. Then they are having a go at me.
Read it and then tell me that I lie. You can quickly see who have read it or not.
As I said, it is a history book about a part of our history, not a fantasy book.
I show links, pictures, articles as proof when I say something. I must always do that. I know what would happen if I didn't.
I may be a shit poster with shit opinions but I don't lie. Many others imagine up lies. One example is about the famous book, the one that is about a part of our history, An Epic Swindle. It is a history book about a part of our history, not a fantasy book.
Accused of lie after lie after lie but it is all in the book. Not a fantasy book. A book about a part of our history. Others lie about our history, made up lies because they are to lazy to find out the truth. Then they are having a go at me.
Read it and then tell me that I lie. You can quickly see who have read it or not.
As I said, it is a history book about a part of our history, not a fantasy book.
This book tells, through the personal experiences and insights of the key people involved, the true horror of Tom Hicks' and George Gillett's disastrous 44-month reign at Anfield. It will tell how two men who knew nothing about football, and whose only ambition was turning a fast buck, managed to take over Liverpool.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11151395-an-epic-swindle
So it's sour grapes that I find him limited as a defender. Is this a fucking joke?
It's an opinion on a player I have had from more or less after his first Season and to the day he left. He is nothing more than a decent defender in my book despite what I think of other players. Try to understand it's an opinion I've based on watching him play +150 times. It's the same with Lucas I dont get posters obsession with him either. Limited, at best. Good blokes and all, forgetable footballers.
And I didn't even know Arn liked Agger, he's apparently rather clever after all, but it's not as rare a feat as you would think, Mark.
Believe what you want I called you and other mods out here, because honestly, it's your behaviour that is ruining the site, not this Arn poster.
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Skrtel is Slovakian.
I am not even 100% behind Lucas and have said that all the time. I have all the time said that he is a limited player. Shit in the attacking half and very good in our own half.
He is a limited player. If we sign someone better than him then I don't care if we sell him. I have always said that it is a team game. The team always come first.
You aren't allowed to have this opinion about Lucas here. Many members here accuse me of lying and make up lies that I said something else.
I am not 100% behind Agger either. What I did was that I posted a few articles that showed that Rodgers lied to him according to Agger and suddenly I was branded an Agger lover. I also told you what type of player he was. I was also branded an Agger lover after that. Lot of insults.
He is a limited player. If we sign someone better than him then I don't care if we sell him. I have always said that it is a team game. The team always come first.
You aren't allowed to have this opinion about Lucas here. Many members here accuse me of lying and make up lies that I said something else.
I am not 100% behind Agger either. What I did was that I posted a few articles that showed that Rodgers lied to him according to Agger and suddenly I was branded an Agger lover. I also told you what type of player he was. I was also branded an Agger lover after that. Lot of insults.
Has it got better or worse?
Sorry K ... I don't agree with you. You can be repetitive (check the boring terrorism/middle east threads for an example), and still have good, solid debates with people who have different points of view. It only gets annoying - like this one - when a person comes onto any thread and just acts the **** (see, I won't say it out of respect for you) for a very specific reason (and it's not because Arn is Scando - that's not why he's going after Skrtel).
I always preferred when a player leaves, as long as he wasn't like a Diouf (or even Mascher) or utter kak as a player, it's the wrong place to take shots at him for whatever reason ... Start a new thread and do it, whatever. I guess we'll see it if Lucas leaves, and then I'll get pissed off again - but hey, what can I do ...
As for the rest, I'm not too fussed.
Nah, we need more Scandos.
As for skrtel, happy we got any money for him tbh. He was limited, often relying on pulling people to the ground
He was imperious for a few seasons, and special needs for a few. That level of inconsistency kind of fucked us up a bit
As for all this agger stuff @khl. I've always said he was good, but not the best defender at the club. He was similar to skrtel and very inconsistent, main difference being agger moaned when he was dropped.
Don't take to this snidey comment tbh. I'm upfront about stuff and why I say things. Arn has opinions but then kicks off when he gets pulled on them. We're all shit fans etc. He gets a kicking because he's earned it by being smug
No one likes smugness
He was imperious for a few seasons, and special needs for a few. That level of inconsistency kind of fucked us up a bit
As for all this agger stuff @khl. I've always said he was good, but not the best defender at the club. He was similar to skrtel and very inconsistent, main difference being agger moaned when he was dropped.
Don't take to this snidey comment tbh. I'm upfront about stuff and why I say things. Arn has opinions but then kicks off when he gets pulled on them. We're all shit fans etc. He gets a kicking because he's earned it by being smug
No one likes smugness
If it was you'd have posted like 20 times in the last 10 minutes
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