Fat Sams grand scam, speaks easy.
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Footy's as bad as politics for nest-feathering. All cocksuckers.
Hahaha what a stupid fat cunt
You're wasting your time Macca, no-one is looking at the FA's inaction and incompetence, they've got their perp and, by God, they're going to hang him.
If newspapers drop their bluster and actually name others accused of corruption then the FA and the clubs will be in the spotlight and the newspapers will have done the service they always claim to be doing.
Until then the ignorant will laugh and mock the guy in the spotlight never asking how these things are allowed to knowingly fester (in all countries) and give a pass to the very people who actually have the power to do something.
It's always been thus. There's a powder keg under every England manager, even though he doesn't know it, and all the hacks have to do is get the nod to spark it into action.
Take Hoddle. His 'religious' views were well-known long before he took the England job and were treated as something comical, until the FA got irritated with his treatment of players and his commercial deals. Then Matt Dickinson, a young hack of no fixed ability who was one of the most amoral and ruthlessly ambitious little twats I've ever encountered, was handed the means to make a career for himself simply by interviewing the hapless Hoddle and encouraging him to say what he had been saying for years. Bingo. Shock horror and out the door he went. Dickinson won Sports Journalist of the Year for that.
With Allardyce I can only assume the FA appointed him and then immediately decided they'd made an horrendous mistake. Maybe it was the fact that he wanted a veritable village of assistants to come in with him, or maybe it was his desire to ignore St George's Park (which the FA adores but the players hate), or maybe some players rebelled, but there was nothing about his character or behaviour that the FA didn't already know about when they signed him, so it's hard not to think that they were all too eager to go along with the media storm.
On the proper football side, it's quite astonishing when you look at how low England has sunk as a managerial job. The bookies favourites are:
Gareth Southgate
Steve Bruce
Alan Pardew
Eddie Howe
Glenn Hoddle
Jurgen Klinsmann
Mark Warburton
What a bunch.
All you need to do now to become the media's darling for the job is to play vaguely pretty football and seem youthful. Eddie Howe: a manager for a mere eight years, only one and a bit of which have been spent in the top division, winning nothing and getting beaten so frequently by the biggest teams that he reacted to defeating Everton at home as if it was a cup final. His only time away from Bournemouth was a couple of seasons at Burnley where he failed to stamp any kind of signature on their style of play and left to the regret of no one. His record in the Premier League so far is Won 13, Lost 21. And this is England's great hope?
I actually quite like him, and thought he might be a decent gamble as coach under an experienced manager, but to put him in charge of a team that clearly needs to improve, more than anything else, its discipline and mentality in tournament conditions is frankly ridiculous.
England is a team of inexperienced and mentally weak players. You progress in baby steps with a team like that. First you work on the basics. You don't jump immediately to the tiki-taka stuff. This is a team that collapses under the most minimal kind of competitive pressure. If you don't sort that out, nothing will follow but yet more ignominious defeats.
The FA, in a stunning moment of reason, actually seemed to realise that, by appointing a manager who seemed set to offer that and only that, in terms of making the players mentally tougher and more disciplined. Much as I've always loathed Allardyce, I was quite interested to see what that experiment would do in the short team, because they've tried just about everything else. At least there was some kind of logic in terms of a reaction to what happened n France.
But now what? A return to the absurd and arrogant idea that it will only take a few tweaks to turn the national team into a fabulously stylish footballing side that wins loads of stuff whilst the world stands by and cheers? England is the Sunderland of international football. The FA needs to find someone who can cope with that.
Take Hoddle. His 'religious' views were well-known long before he took the England job and were treated as something comical, until the FA got irritated with his treatment of players and his commercial deals. Then Matt Dickinson, a young hack of no fixed ability who was one of the most amoral and ruthlessly ambitious little twats I've ever encountered, was handed the means to make a career for himself simply by interviewing the hapless Hoddle and encouraging him to say what he had been saying for years. Bingo. Shock horror and out the door he went. Dickinson won Sports Journalist of the Year for that.
With Allardyce I can only assume the FA appointed him and then immediately decided they'd made an horrendous mistake. Maybe it was the fact that he wanted a veritable village of assistants to come in with him, or maybe it was his desire to ignore St George's Park (which the FA adores but the players hate), or maybe some players rebelled, but there was nothing about his character or behaviour that the FA didn't already know about when they signed him, so it's hard not to think that they were all too eager to go along with the media storm.
On the proper football side, it's quite astonishing when you look at how low England has sunk as a managerial job. The bookies favourites are:
Gareth Southgate
Steve Bruce
Alan Pardew
Eddie Howe
Glenn Hoddle
Jurgen Klinsmann
Mark Warburton
What a bunch.
All you need to do now to become the media's darling for the job is to play vaguely pretty football and seem youthful. Eddie Howe: a manager for a mere eight years, only one and a bit of which have been spent in the top division, winning nothing and getting beaten so frequently by the biggest teams that he reacted to defeating Everton at home as if it was a cup final. His only time away from Bournemouth was a couple of seasons at Burnley where he failed to stamp any kind of signature on their style of play and left to the regret of no one. His record in the Premier League so far is Won 13, Lost 21. And this is England's great hope?
I actually quite like him, and thought he might be a decent gamble as coach under an experienced manager, but to put him in charge of a team that clearly needs to improve, more than anything else, its discipline and mentality in tournament conditions is frankly ridiculous.
England is a team of inexperienced and mentally weak players. You progress in baby steps with a team like that. First you work on the basics. You don't jump immediately to the tiki-taka stuff. This is a team that collapses under the most minimal kind of competitive pressure. If you don't sort that out, nothing will follow but yet more ignominious defeats.
The FA, in a stunning moment of reason, actually seemed to realise that, by appointing a manager who seemed set to offer that and only that, in terms of making the players mentally tougher and more disciplined. Much as I've always loathed Allardyce, I was quite interested to see what that experiment would do in the short team, because they've tried just about everything else. At least there was some kind of logic in terms of a reaction to what happened n France.
But now what? A return to the absurd and arrogant idea that it will only take a few tweaks to turn the national team into a fabulously stylish footballing side that wins loads of stuff whilst the world stands by and cheers? England is the Sunderland of international football. The FA needs to find someone who can cope with that.
I think there is a fairly big chance Harry Redknapp is one of the other 8 EPL managers outed by the "sting."
The FA is a bit like Thomas Hobbes wandering into his own State of Nature and suddenly being shocked that life is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short. The FA helped create this over-commercialised world in which greed is the line of least resistance. So it really needs to stop acting with self-righteous indignation whenever a light is shone on what is now ordinary behaviour. Sort it out by sorting out the bigger picture. Take a share of the blame as well as the responsibility.
It reminds me of a story about the writer JB Priestley. One of his plays was on in the West End, and word got around that he was attending one evening, so the cast got very excited. After it was over, they waited backstage, expecting a visit from the great man, but he failed to show. 'I guess he didn't like it,' the crestfallen director said. 'Didn't like it?' said one of the actors. 'Didn't bloody LIKE it?? Well in that case he shouldn't have bloody well WRITTEN it, then, should he!'
It reminds me of a story about the writer JB Priestley. One of his plays was on in the West End, and word got around that he was attending one evening, so the cast got very excited. After it was over, they waited backstage, expecting a visit from the great man, but he failed to show. 'I guess he didn't like it,' the crestfallen director said. 'Didn't like it?' said one of the actors. 'Didn't bloody LIKE it?? Well in that case he shouldn't have bloody well WRITTEN it, then, should he!'
There is a player there who will have a very long face when finding out his pay rise makes him liable for appr 50% taxes!!😛
The hacks are really beyond parody now. It's them who drum up the mad optimism before each tournament and then blame everyone else after England bomb out. Look at Henry Winter, supposedly one of the more intelligent of the bunch, writing today in The Times bigging up Eddie Howe: 'He has shown he can work with bigger-name players with his clever use of Jack Wilshere at Bournemouth'. Clever use of Jack Wilshere??? He's played TWO games! Twat!
Anyone with any critical faculty would read the opinions of the press and then do the opposite. Winter and others seems either astonishingly naive or wilfully stupid, as if they completely ignore the evidence they are paid to view and comment on. I can only think their employers are even more vacuous.
I don't have much time for many of them anyway, but Winter must be at or near the top of the "Overrated" league table.
Matthew Syed was on radio yesterday pontificating about what a scandal it would be if Allardyce lost his job. Now there's a legend in his own lunchtime.
Ha, you seem to be assuming that Harry won't be on the list of managers The Telegraph has. Unlikely.
We at the FA apologise again for our mistake in selecting Sam Allardyce. We still believe that our method of assessing his character and background - phoning Alex Ferguson - was both painstaking and professional, but we accept that some small details, such as his greed, corruption and complete contempt for us, did indeed slip, inexplicably, through our investigative net. We can now, however, announce that, having learned our lesson, we have found someone who has scored supremely highly in all of our new and improved due diligence procedures, and we are absolutely confident that he is the man to take England forward with peerless professionalism and probity.
Come on, fellas, don't be party poppers!
I don't understand your frustration at this. The FA vilified one of our greatest players and drove him out of the country. They also caused to be vilified our greatest ever player and contributed to him getting fired. Fuck them. Had I the time and inclination, I would destroy them all. Fuck their xenophobic fans. And fuck their national team. What the media hacks are doing to them is simply glorious.
I would be had they carried on happily on their way, then I'd be extremely frustrated. Seeing them humiliated and fail at everything since has eased that frustration, and turned it into a source of satisfaction. So my comments are to pour fuel on the fire and help to spread more ill will towards them. You seem like a connected guy, you could spread far more of it, which would be good.
I think it's good that there's an obvious schism between those that supported Allardyce - or at least think his sacking/ mutual resignation unfair and draconian - and those that think it was inevitable and the right thing to do.
But what's amusing/ annoying is that now Fat Sam has been booted, there's a slew of opinion that is intent on rubbishing him entirely, claiming he was always a poor choice, a dinosaur in football and social circles, with a well-known fondness for booze and shooting his mouth off, and dark hints about his conduct and predilection for a financial sweetener etc etc.
Seems a bit cowardly to only say it now, if it was always your opinion.
It's fair to say that there was plenty of misgivings from the media about his appointment in the first place, but there was also plenty about how he was unfairly represented, was actually some kind of council estate Wenger, with all of his sports science and data scientists, and also remember Jay Jay Okocha?
He's a greedy, self-aggrandising twat, and I've never liked him - and never pretended to - but I still look at the transcripts and think he's been a bit hard done by.
But what's amusing/ annoying is that now Fat Sam has been booted, there's a slew of opinion that is intent on rubbishing him entirely, claiming he was always a poor choice, a dinosaur in football and social circles, with a well-known fondness for booze and shooting his mouth off, and dark hints about his conduct and predilection for a financial sweetener etc etc.
Seems a bit cowardly to only say it now, if it was always your opinion.
It's fair to say that there was plenty of misgivings from the media about his appointment in the first place, but there was also plenty about how he was unfairly represented, was actually some kind of council estate Wenger, with all of his sports science and data scientists, and also remember Jay Jay Okocha?
He's a greedy, self-aggrandising twat, and I've never liked him - and never pretended to - but I still look at the transcripts and think he's been a bit hard done by.
With him and Steve Bruce currently out of jobs, there'll be a few nervous managers feeling a weird gravitational pull as two massive heads start orbiting their club
Unless Sam is now too tainted even for the Premiership.
(Ahahahahahahaha!)
Unless Sam is now too tainted even for the Premiership.
(Ahahahahahahaha!)
Good article in the Guardian today, very balanced:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/sep/27/sam-allardyce-arrogant-clot-england-manager
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/sep/27/sam-allardyce-arrogant-clot-england-manager
Reading Syed as he strains to make a 'bold' moral argument is a bit like watching your dad attempting to demonstrate the yoga move he's just studied on the internet: 'Er...please watch yourself now...no...don't do that...really, seriously, you'll never get out of that once you're in it...oh no, you see? Someone call for an ambulance.'
"I haven’t heard that. I haven’t heard that, you stupid man. What are you talking about? You idiot. You can have that conversation when I’m not here.”
Allardyce is so aghast by the suggestion he leans back and drapes a napkin over his face. Later he gives the man who brought it up, his long-term friend and football agent Scott McGarvey, another going-over.
“You slipped up tonight. You can’t go there any more. You can’t pay a player, you can’t pay a manager, you can’t pay a CEO. It used to happen 20 odd years ago, 30 years ago. You can’t do it now. You can’t do it now. Don’t ever go there"
Now that could be construed as a man very keen to downplay any discussion about bungs and bribery, and doing so loudly and repeatedly.
But only if you're an idiot.
Because if he was making a big deal of distancing himself from such comments, it would suggest that he knew he was being set up - or at least recorded - and STILL said the rest of the it in the knowledge it was possibly going to be made public.
Yeah, I doubt he's been taking bungs, at least not since he became a 'big' manager anyway, he may be an arrogant twat but he's not thick, despite the reputation.
Why isn't this thread called 'scam allardyce'? Fucking amateurs.
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