Yep. Elongation of the ball shows it's in forward motion. A frame or two difference.
Everton v Liverpool - Match Thread
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I can’t wait for the first goal to be disallowed after it strikes the upper arm. The uproar that will follow for it to be handball will be ridiculous.
The new handball rule has fucked it all up.
The new handball rule has fucked it all up.
This year's league is a fucking shower. VAR bullshit, new handball rules, shite fake crowd noise, no fans. It's all a massive cluster fuck and no mistake.
Yes he can
I would like to hear what Carlo Ancelotti says about his teams ... he's never come off as a cunt, and has always been respectable.
What two of his players did today was disgraceful, and it would be impressive if he says, "My team went too far today - I am embarrassed to have taken a point this way, because injuring a rivals' players is no way to win, draw or lose - today we played like thugs and this goes against the philosophy I believe in as a football manager."
VvD will be lucky if he's out for a month ... unless he's Adrian Peterson like (@Rosco - likelihood?)
Season's goals change from title charge - if he's out for the year - to top 4 and cup ... That will do.
Lastly, is it too harsh to say a) Keane pulled Fabinho before his leap and b) Adrian should have saved it?
What two of his players did today was disgraceful, and it would be impressive if he says, "My team went too far today - I am embarrassed to have taken a point this way, because injuring a rivals' players is no way to win, draw or lose - today we played like thugs and this goes against the philosophy I believe in as a football manager."
VvD will be lucky if he's out for a month ... unless he's Adrian Peterson like (@Rosco - likelihood?)
Season's goals change from title charge - if he's out for the year - to top 4 and cup ... That will do.
Lastly, is it too harsh to say a) Keane pulled Fabinho before his leap and b) Adrian should have saved it?
Yep, which they can't get right cos the tight fuckers haven't put the 240fps cameras in, which fifa stated were the standard for VAR
A month?! It's his ACL apparently. That's most of the season.
Null and Void
Can he ? I thought it was only if the ref says he didn't see it. No chance he didn't see that.
Hence I said 'lucky' ... that is worst case scenario.
Who is saying that besides fans? He goes for a scan tomorrow.
If you really want to punish Everton then banning him isn't going to work
Exactly. I'd love all these 'rules is rules' twats to be issued with speeding tickets the next time they go through a camera at 30.0001 mph.
Dont think I would trust hairy hands as the best source. Surely the results of a knee scan arent available yet.
But its deffo ligament damage...
Gutted for Virgil. Disgraceful tackle. You'll struggle to find worse. The authorities will have to take action if fans denied seeing the PL / European player of the year.
Glad LFC are asking to review the decisions. Kloppo was reserved after so limited to what he said. Dignified bloke.
Im sick. Ruining that last min winner celebration when first watch said it was onside. Shouldn't need referring. Let the linesmen do their job. And btw, has the advantage to the attacker gone totally?
Offdide cos some prick with a fat wad of cash in his back pocket says so. Hope they crucify him and retrospectively give us the three points. Yeah, right.
Glad LFC are asking to review the decisions. Kloppo was reserved after so limited to what he said. Dignified bloke.
Im sick. Ruining that last min winner celebration when first watch said it was onside. Shouldn't need referring. Let the linesmen do their job. And btw, has the advantage to the attacker gone totally?
Offdide cos some prick with a fat wad of cash in his back pocket says so. Hope they crucify him and retrospectively give us the three points. Yeah, right.
That's not been confirmed at all dude. Let's wait and see.
You can't tell an ACL by looking at it. Could equally be MCL or PCL or a mix. Could be really lucky and just be bruising too.. though unlikely given the angle it bent.
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Liverpool have asked the Premier League to review the use of VAR in a dramatic and highly controversial Merseyside derby that left Virgil van Dijk and Thiago Alcântara requiring scans on suspected knee injuries.
Jürgen Klopp was incensed after the champions were denied a 92nd-minute winner at Goodison Park and the Everton goalkeeper Jordan Pickford escaped punishment for a dreadful foul that ended Van Dijk’s involvement after only six minutes. VAR failed to review a possible red card for Pickford for serious foul play and disallowed Jordan Henderson’s stoppage-time strike for a fractional offside decision against Sadio Mané.
Liverpool contacted the Premier League for an explanation of why Pickford’s challenge was not scrutinised, which part of Mané’s body was deemed to be offside and the moment VAR decided to freeze the frame in its stoppage-time review.
To add to Klopp’s anger, Thiago was injured by a dangerous foul from Richarlison that brought a straight red card for the Everton forward. The signing from Bayern Munich and Van Dijk were sent for scans, with Liverpool fearing both suffered knee injuries.
“I have done a lot of interviews now and it is getting harder and harder to take,” said Klopp. “That was the best away derby we have played since I have been here. There was good football, we dealt with the specific strengths of Everton and our goals were brilliant. Then as I am leaving the pitch Thiago tells me that in the Richarlison red card situation he thinks he got injured. Then I go into the dressing room and people are standing around a laptop and I say: ’What’s wrong?’ and they say: ‘We have watched it back and don’t understand why it is offside’.
“I am a real supporter of VAR but in the one picture I saw there is no offside. Since then I have had 10 interviews and everyone tells me it was not offside and that doesn’t lift my mood. We lost one player in a situation where VAR was not involved with Virgil and maybe another one in the red card situation and scored a legitimate goal which didn’t count. It was not our day but the performance was the performance I wanted to see.”
The Liverpool manager admitted he was bewildered at the failure to review Pickford’s foul on van Dijk. He added: “It was a clear penalty and then the flag went up for offside. I thought they would still look at the foul but that didn’t happen. I don’t want to say Jordan Pickford wanted to do it but it is not a challenge a goalie can do in the box. If it not offside it is 100% a penalty.”
Carlo Ancelotti, the Everton manager, defended another erratic display from Pickford but insisted he had not reviewed the Van Dijk incident. “He played a good game, like the other players,” Ancelotti said. “He made good saves, he was focused and it was a good performance. Unfortunately Van Dijk got injured. I hope that he can recover well and soon.”
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ar-review-after-controversial-draw-at-everton
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Liverpool have asked the Premier League to review the use of VAR in a dramatic and highly controversial Merseyside derby that left Virgil van Dijk and Thiago Alcântara requiring scans on suspected knee injuries.
Jürgen Klopp was incensed after the champions were denied a 92nd-minute winner at Goodison Park and the Everton goalkeeper Jordan Pickford escaped punishment for a dreadful foul that ended Van Dijk’s involvement after only six minutes. VAR failed to review a possible red card for Pickford for serious foul play and disallowed Jordan Henderson’s stoppage-time strike for a fractional offside decision against Sadio Mané.
Liverpool contacted the Premier League for an explanation of why Pickford’s challenge was not scrutinised, which part of Mané’s body was deemed to be offside and the moment VAR decided to freeze the frame in its stoppage-time review.
To add to Klopp’s anger, Thiago was injured by a dangerous foul from Richarlison that brought a straight red card for the Everton forward. The signing from Bayern Munich and Van Dijk were sent for scans, with Liverpool fearing both suffered knee injuries.
“I have done a lot of interviews now and it is getting harder and harder to take,” said Klopp. “That was the best away derby we have played since I have been here. There was good football, we dealt with the specific strengths of Everton and our goals were brilliant. Then as I am leaving the pitch Thiago tells me that in the Richarlison red card situation he thinks he got injured. Then I go into the dressing room and people are standing around a laptop and I say: ’What’s wrong?’ and they say: ‘We have watched it back and don’t understand why it is offside’.
“I am a real supporter of VAR but in the one picture I saw there is no offside. Since then I have had 10 interviews and everyone tells me it was not offside and that doesn’t lift my mood. We lost one player in a situation where VAR was not involved with Virgil and maybe another one in the red card situation and scored a legitimate goal which didn’t count. It was not our day but the performance was the performance I wanted to see.”
The Liverpool manager admitted he was bewildered at the failure to review Pickford’s foul on van Dijk. He added: “It was a clear penalty and then the flag went up for offside. I thought they would still look at the foul but that didn’t happen. I don’t want to say Jordan Pickford wanted to do it but it is not a challenge a goalie can do in the box. If it not offside it is 100% a penalty.”
Carlo Ancelotti, the Everton manager, defended another erratic display from Pickford but insisted he had not reviewed the Van Dijk incident. “He played a good game, like the other players,” Ancelotti said. “He made good saves, he was focused and it was a good performance. Unfortunately Van Dijk got injured. I hope that he can recover well and soon.”
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ar-review-after-controversial-draw-at-everton
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No info out yet about VVD, some dodgy account info has come from. It ain't looking good. What a fucking twat Pickford is. Brianless. Should receive a retrospective ban for these kind of things, not that it makes it any easier. 2 and half months to negotiate before Jan window opens.
We won’t hear anything for 2-3 days.
If anything, he should be forced to start all games for Everton and England as a punishment.
Agree, it will be tomorrow at earliest
... aaaaaand we're back in the groove
We are totally fucking doomed. The Championship beckons
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