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Elephant in the room....... suspect transfer policy

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Jerry Laser

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Sorry but it needs saying

WHY....

did we let go of Reina and Agger???? to be replaced by Mongolet and Loservren?

2 players of international class and plenty of CL experience?

Why does it seem yet again we have wasted a ton of money on transfers this summer....

Is no one questioning Rodgers ability to find good players at present?

Just because he found Coutinho and Sturridge we have let him off the countless fuck ups and wasted cash thus far.....

Balotelli is just the icing on the cake of a transfer cake filled with shite....
 
Oh and before you hide behind hes buying potential.....

I think Brendan cleverly uses that developing kids thing to buy himself time.
 
Wages i think was a huge factor in the Reina transfer..

Agger he thought he was getting an improvement.. infact he sold a lime to get a lemon
 
The signs were there last season.... 50 goals let in....

Like Suarez said, if it werent for him we would probably not have got CL
 
Jerry Laser said:
Oh and before you hide behind hes buying potential.....

I think Brendan cleverly uses that developing kids thing to buy himself time.
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I think the focus on buying youth is probably more likely to come from the club than Rodgers.

IMO the transfer policy's biggest problem is that it seems to be split between Rodgers and the 'transfer committee'. Personally I'd like to see Rodgers have much less of a say, but even that's a bit of a guess cos it's based on a judgement of who he himself is targeting.
 
Jerry Laser said:
are you fucking kidding me?

What can you base Mignolet being better than Reina on?
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Because reina is warming the bench for club and country.

Because he made several high profile mistakes for napoli last year

Because he made high profile near post mistakes for us in his final year

The fact that he turns up every season looking unfit

We as a club have ruined Mignolet. He was a great keeper at Sunderland, but we've put him behind a shaky defence and asked him to play as a sweeper keeper. The fans are perpetually on his back when he doesn't AND does come out for the ball.

He's got no confidence because we've sucked it out of him. Same with lovren. Same with Sakho.
 
Mainly wages and financial structures. We won't sanction high wages on squad players. So Balotelli will play pretty much every game til we fuck him off

What's got me wondering is the scouts though. All the good players would seemingly be ones Rodgers has heard of... Sturridge and Coutinho, Sakho, Lovren, Moreno, Allen

Who are more likely to be the scouts decisons? Alberto, Aspas, Manquillo, Can (?), Markovic (? guessing he'd be heavily scouted but Rodgers rates him), Ilori, etc

So Rodgers bad buys that I reckon were a definite Brodge decision: Mignolet, Balotelli (who else would he buy though), Borini

We're still fucking ages away from a boss squad like
 
Fabio said:
Because reina is warming the bench for club and country.

Because he made several high profile mistakes for napoli last year

Because he made high profile near post mistakes for us in his final year

The fact that he turns up every season looking unfit

We as a club have ruined Mignolet. He was a great keeper at Sunderland, but we've put him behind a shaky defence and asked him to play as a sweeper keeper. The fans are perpetually on his back when he doesn't AND does come out for the ball.

He's got no confidence because we've sucked it out of him. Same with lovren. Same with Sakho.
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Hmmmmm so whose fault is that?
 
Fabio said:
Rodgers and his inability to sort a defence.
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Its certainly getting worrying, and the thing that worried me the other day was when Rodgers was being interviewed after the QPR game, he looked scared worried like a rabbit in the headlights....

Has his plan not got another option? Can he not work out how to fix the obvious issues?

I am starting to worry maybe his lack of experience is costing us at present.
 
Loads of people had misgivings about Mignolet and Lovren before we signed them, though, I simply don't buy that they were ever top class players. Not saying BR is helping, but I think the personnel is a problem too.

Lovren for me is our single most frustrating signing since Rodgers came in. You know, he had at least £20m to go out and cherry pick the best centre half he could find. Why pick one who can't play with Sakho? If he didn't rate Sakho, why keep a valuable player around at all? Why choose a guy with a mediocre pedigree and one good season for a lesser club? Hasn't that been proven time and again to lead to gross overspending?

To me it's just a terrible signing in so many important ways.
 
Delinquent said:
Actually, I think he uses taking us from also-rans to the brink of winning the Premier League to buy himself time.
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Yes he has, but for all the good things there are also bad....

1. Questionable Transfer Policy

2. Lack of Defensive tactical know how

3. Questionable ability to deal with big characters within the squad. (Thus why prefers to work with younger players)
 
Doesn't a Transfer committee decide on our signings ?

Also , I never though Brendan signed off on the Balotelli deal?
 
This defensive shit has to be sorted out now ortherwise we'll be struggling to get enough points to stay up never mind making the top 4. Its been going on for too long and we don't have the players to cover over the cracks like we did last year.

I don't know what it takes to do that. Do we need a defensive coach? Do we need a better goalkeeping coach?

What I do know is that all of our defenders are good players individually, surely it isn't beyond the bounds of possibility to make them into even a good unit.
 
HC said:
Doesn't a Transfer committee decide on our signings ?

Also , I never though Brendan signed off on the Balotelli deal?
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Yep, this is what I say over and over again on here, not that anyone takes a blind bit of notice. I think some signings are his and some aren't, and some are probably jointly agreed. It's pretty difficult trying to work out which is which. If I had to guess from this summer's signings I'd say

Rodgers:

Lallana
Lovren

Committee:

Balotelli
Manquillo
Origi
Can

Joint:

Lambert
Markovic
Moreno


Seems like I'm forgetting a player...
 
A post I made last year: http://www.sixcrazyminutes.com/index.php?threads/new-deal-for-gaffer.40620/page-2#post-1024190

If I update it slightly

Successful signings (so far)

Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 (safe to say, that if we sold him now we'd make a profit)
Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,600,000 (ditto)
Kolo Toure Man City Free (okish for a free. Being generous)
Joe Allen Swansea £15,000,000 (I'm hesitant to put him in here as he isn't world class and he isn't even a guaranteed first team starter, but he's ok)
Total 45,600,000

Unsuccessful signings (so far)

Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 (bollocks)
Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £2,400,000
Nuri Şahin Real Madrid Loan (I'm sure he cost us a fee)
Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,500,000 (bollocks)
Aly Cissokho Valencia Loan (bollocks)
Mamadou Sakho PSG £15,000,000 (we bought Lovern to replace him)
Victor Moses Chelsea Loan (No comment)
Simon Mignolet Sunderland £10,000,000
Total 45,300,000 (+ whatever fee we paid for Moses)

Youth
Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,00030
Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 (he'd need to be good for this price)
Tiago Ilori Sporting CP £7,000,000 (ditto)
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HC said:
Doesn't a Transfer committee decide on our signings ?

Also , I never though Brendan signed off on the Balotelli deal?
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A transfer committee that he's one third of, and has the overriding vote on(well apparently anyway). He's as responsible for the signings as anyone else. And he's the one that needs to get them to perform.

If he didn't get the players he wanted, then maybe he's not good enough at convincing the owners who he should get. Or maybe they realise he shouldn't be trusted. Who knows, it's all guessing really.

What we do know is that it doesn't look like our transfer policy is working as well as we'd like it to, so something needs to be improved.
 
I think it's fair to say we should have closed the exit door on a few players from being loaned out and subsequently kept our purse strings tied for a few.

The figures are their minute time calculated in terms of games:
Tiago Ilori instead of Sakho (Bordeaux are 3rd in Ligue 1, 3 games, 1 goal, 0 assists)
Suso instead of Can (Suso has only played 23 minutes and scored)
Ibe instead of Markovic (Derby are 1st in the Championship - 5 and a half games, 2 goals, 0 assists)
Origi instead of Balotelli (Lille are 8th in Ligue 1, 3pts off 2nd - 8 and a half games, 4 goals, 2 assists)

That's the best part of £62million which could have been conserved to ensure Suarez stayed or splashed on some global superstars i.e. Benatia, Pogba, Alex Song, James Rodriguez, Fabregas, Costa, Falcao.

Then give the likes of Rossiter, Lucas' game time.
 
irishred said:
I think it's fair to say we should have closed the exit door on a few players from being loaned out and subsequently kept our purse strings tied for a few.

The figures are their minute time calculated in terms of games:
Tiago Ilori instead of Sakho (Bordeaux are 3rd in Ligue 1, 3 games, 1 goal, 0 assists)
Suso instead of Can (Suso has only played 23 minutes and scored)
Ibe instead of Markovic (Derby are 1st in the Championship - 5 and a half games, 2 goals, 0 assists)
Origi instead of Balotelli (Lille are 8th in Ligue 1, 3pts off 2nd - 8 and a half games, 4 goals, 2 assists)

That's the best part of £62million which could have been conserved to ensure Suarez stayed or splashed on some global superstars i.e. Benatia, Pogba, Alex Song, James Rodriguez, Fabregas, Costa, Falcao.

Then give the likes of Rossiter, Lucas' game time.
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So after about 4 or 5 games we're already saying that 20 year olds Can and Markovic are bad signings? We might as well never sign any top young players ever again.
 
So the people I am thinking about were these, but also the people we have let go aswell

Fabio Borini
Oussama Assaidi
Luis Alberto
Iago Aspas
Simon Mignolet
Tiago Ilori
Mario Balotelli

These are the players I would question out of all of the ones we have brought in. The rest had or have potential, but what irks me is his way of spending on players then basically just casting them aside....
 
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