And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=44931.msg1365187#msg1365187 date=1310658915]
Dhsc, the far eastern platoon is way awesome. Welcome!
Binny only 12 players better than Downing in 2010/2011 for assist? Bet some of them might be cheaper than 14 million?
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1 Luis Nani Man Utd 18
2 Didier Drogba Chelsea 15
3 Francesc Fabregas Arsenal 14
4 Andrey Arshavin Arsenal 11
5 Leighton Baines Everton 11
6 Chris Brunt WBA 11
7 Wayne Rooney Man Utd 11
8 Ashley Young Aston Villa 11
9 Charlie Adam Blackpool 9
10 Joey Barton Newcastle 9
11 Peter Crouch Tottenham 9
Dhsc, the far eastern platoon is way awesome. Welcome!
Binny only 12 players better than Downing in 2010/2011 for assist? Bet some of them might be cheaper than 14 million?
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1 Luis Nani Man Utd 18
2 Didier Drogba Chelsea 15
3 Francesc Fabregas Arsenal 14
4 Andrey Arshavin Arsenal 11
5 Leighton Baines Everton 11
6 Chris Brunt WBA 11
7 Wayne Rooney Man Utd 11
8 Ashley Young Aston Villa 11
9 Charlie Adam Blackpool 9
10 Joey Barton Newcastle 9
11 Peter Crouch Tottenham 9
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1365191#msg1365191 date=1310659405]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=44931.msg1365189#msg1365189 date=1310659236]
Doubt its as low as 14m.
It still amounts to the same thing Binny, only this way it's structured with the 'possibility' of it reaching X amount. The initial fee might still be £14m.
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True mark, but in that case, hope its more success-oriented than appearances related.
[quote author=Binny link=topic=44931.msg1365189#msg1365189 date=1310659236]
Doubt its as low as 14m.
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It still amounts to the same thing Binny, only this way it's structured with the 'possibility' of it reaching X amount. The initial fee might still be £14m.
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True mark, but in that case, hope its more success-oriented than appearances related.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44931.msg1365195#msg1365195 date=1310659763]
And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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Very disrespectful. The Kid had his chance and he blew it BIG time. Only himself to blame for shaking his head. had the world at his feet.
And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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Very disrespectful. The Kid had his chance and he blew it BIG time. Only himself to blame for shaking his head. had the world at his feet.
I'm just not a big fan of the revisionist justification that is going around.
20 has now become 14 or 12 or whatever. Additionally British players have now become more expensive compared to last year (Come on, you know in your heart you are incapable of saying that with a straight face)...etc...etc
The deal is done with. The money is spent, and it is now just a sunk cost that can't be recovered, and what remains is the player. Steward Downing still improves our squad. Let's draw a line and move on.
Who knows we could get a fucking boss Center-Back as replacement for Agger. **Starts dreaming about Subotic or Hummels and sets himself up for another fall.** But ya, if we are going to go after Dann after all of this i'll personally break the internet. I'd much rather we didn't spend any more money.
20 has now become 14 or 12 or whatever. Additionally British players have now become more expensive compared to last year (Come on, you know in your heart you are incapable of saying that with a straight face)...etc...etc
The deal is done with. The money is spent, and it is now just a sunk cost that can't be recovered, and what remains is the player. Steward Downing still improves our squad. Let's draw a line and move on.
Who knows we could get a fucking boss Center-Back as replacement for Agger. **Starts dreaming about Subotic or Hummels and sets himself up for another fall.** But ya, if we are going to go after Dann after all of this i'll personally break the internet. I'd much rather we didn't spend any more money.
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[quote author=Krump link=topic=44931.msg1365195#msg1365195 date=1310659763]
And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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Very disrespectful. The Kid had his chance and he blew it BIG time. Only himself to blame for shaking his head. had the world at his feet.
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Absolutely. He presumably feels he has more talent in his little finger than Downing has in his whole body, and he may be right, but unfortunately he mostly kept it in his little ******* finger while he was with us.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44931.msg1365195#msg1365195 date=1310659763]
And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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Very disrespectful. The Kid had his chance and he blew it BIG time. Only himself to blame for shaking his head. had the world at his feet.
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Absolutely. He presumably feels he has more talent in his little finger than Downing has in his whole body, and he may be right, but unfortunately he mostly kept it in his little ******* finger while he was with us.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1364908#msg1364908 date=1310637778]
And yeah, if I could think of a few posters who seem to like pulling up old posts and old arguments, it's you guys who I'd think of first, it's a pretty sad claim to fame really and hardly an endearing quality.
I mean, it's not like any of you are ever wrong about anything. Are we still keeping things tight Ross?
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Hrm, I resent that a little bit.
Jesus, this has all got a bit crazy. I'm not sure what the larger context to all of this is sometimes, in terms of all the ego involved. I thought we were talking about a player we bought, and whether or not it was a good deal. During the process we get to be big blowhards and state our cases because that is what liverpool forums do during the summer, for every player.
I've been dead wrong about many players, and right about others. I hoped they'd all come good, because I'm not an asshole, but what's the problem with balking at a transfer fee, believing its too much for a player you don't rate, and worrying about it and the general trend of purchases made so far? It seems like those on both sides of this argument think the player was overvalued, and differ on how much, and how much that matters. I'd say that reflects a range of how risk averse people are, and their rating of the player, two entirely subjective things. There isn't even a massive disagreement here.
The broader discussion seems to be between optimists and pessimists. The optimists think, look, we are showing the right intent, and this should be incredibly refreshing vs how we were a year ago. The pessimists instead think look, anything is an improvement on disaster, and what we've seen from that disaster is that owners when they come in will be willing to make significant initial outlay, but if the money isn't managed correctly, it isn't just going to magically keep coming, so it needs to be spent well.
This is a risky purchase anyway you cut it due to the outlay and the age of the player. I think that's fair to say. Some can celebrate that we feel that we are in a position where we are comfortable making a risk, and others will worry that the risk might not pay off. That seems pretty normal to me.
And yeah, if I could think of a few posters who seem to like pulling up old posts and old arguments, it's you guys who I'd think of first, it's a pretty sad claim to fame really and hardly an endearing quality.
I mean, it's not like any of you are ever wrong about anything. Are we still keeping things tight Ross?
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Hrm, I resent that a little bit.
Jesus, this has all got a bit crazy. I'm not sure what the larger context to all of this is sometimes, in terms of all the ego involved. I thought we were talking about a player we bought, and whether or not it was a good deal. During the process we get to be big blowhards and state our cases because that is what liverpool forums do during the summer, for every player.
I've been dead wrong about many players, and right about others. I hoped they'd all come good, because I'm not an asshole, but what's the problem with balking at a transfer fee, believing its too much for a player you don't rate, and worrying about it and the general trend of purchases made so far? It seems like those on both sides of this argument think the player was overvalued, and differ on how much, and how much that matters. I'd say that reflects a range of how risk averse people are, and their rating of the player, two entirely subjective things. There isn't even a massive disagreement here.
The broader discussion seems to be between optimists and pessimists. The optimists think, look, we are showing the right intent, and this should be incredibly refreshing vs how we were a year ago. The pessimists instead think look, anything is an improvement on disaster, and what we've seen from that disaster is that owners when they come in will be willing to make significant initial outlay, but if the money isn't managed correctly, it isn't just going to magically keep coming, so it needs to be spent well.
This is a risky purchase anyway you cut it due to the outlay and the age of the player. I think that's fair to say. Some can celebrate that we feel that we are in a position where we are comfortable making a risk, and others will worry that the risk might not pay off. That seems pretty normal to me.
Let's all just agree that the glass is half downingy.
Well summarized.
Can we move on please!
and no body is a better man because they made a point on the internet. It's the internet for christ's sake. We don't have to bring our egos into this.
Can we move on please!
and no body is a better man because they made a point on the internet. It's the internet for christ's sake. We don't have to bring our egos into this.
Says "King" Julian.
[quote author=localny link=topic=44931.msg1365198#msg1365198 date=1310659931]
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44931.msg1365195#msg1365195 date=1310659763]
And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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Very disrespectful. The Kid had his chance and he blew it BIG time. Only himself to blame for shaking his head. had the world at his feet.
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The world was safe.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44931.msg1365195#msg1365195 date=1310659763]
And Ryan Babel says:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009153
Downing with my number? #smh
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Very disrespectful. The Kid had his chance and he blew it BIG time. Only himself to blame for shaking his head. had the world at his feet.
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The world was safe.
I think Krump just made that tweet up btw.
RyanBabel Ryan Babel
Was NOT being negative to nobody .. 2/2
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » RyanBabel Ryan Babel
Just to clarify sometin quick.. Just read here on twitter that the transfer fee was 20 mill.. So yeah I was like " ohh ok " .. Yahmean 1/2
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Was NOT being negative to nobody .. 2/2
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » RyanBabel Ryan Babel
Just to clarify sometin quick.. Just read here on twitter that the transfer fee was 20 mill.. So yeah I was like " ohh ok " .. Yahmean 1/2
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Babel was a different kind of risk than the Downing purchase. Let's hope this one turns out better than that one. In the mean time, does anyone know how good Downing's flow is?
Sorry for doubting you Krump. Just checked myself and he said it all right, along with this 5 minutes ago:
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009157
Im a better croser than adam and downing #fact #smh
http://twitter.com/#!/RyanBabel/status/91538704233009157
Im a better croser than adam and downing #fact #smh
hahaha the bitter bastard.
has this still not been confirmed yet?!
This is worse than the Adam saga!
This is worse than the Adam saga!
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1364908#msg1364908 date=1310637778]
And yeah, if I could think of a few posters who seem to like pulling up old posts and old arguments, it's you guys who I'd think of first, it's a pretty sad claim to fame really and hardly an endearing quality.
I mean, it's not like any of you are ever wrong about anything. Are we still keeping things tight Ross?
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Hrm, I resent that a little bit.
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Not sure why you've taken offence Farky, it wasn't aimed at you.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1364908#msg1364908 date=1310637778]
And yeah, if I could think of a few posters who seem to like pulling up old posts and old arguments, it's you guys who I'd think of first, it's a pretty sad claim to fame really and hardly an endearing quality.
I mean, it's not like any of you are ever wrong about anything. Are we still keeping things tight Ross?
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Hrm, I resent that a little bit.
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Not sure why you've taken offence Farky, it wasn't aimed at you.
haha Gene has come out with a couple of classics over the last two days.
BTW , I think Gene made up the crosses one
Regards
Will you be getting to a match this season Gene?
BTW , I think Gene made up the crosses one
Regards
Will you be getting to a match this season Gene?
Not unless I win the lottery Vlad. Sadly.
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=44931.msg1365321#msg1365321 date=1310677570]
Passed medical and will sign tmrrow.
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Cheers MMc
Regards
Passed medical and will sign tmrrow.
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Cheers MMc
Regards
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=44931.msg1365321#msg1365321 date=1310677570]
Passed medical and will sign tmrrow.
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Whos next Mark?
Passed medical and will sign tmrrow.
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Whos next Mark?
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