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Insignificance said:
The best and most successful Scandinavian coach ever faced partly the same problem. Fantastic attacking side that some times exposed themselves too much and let in some easy goals. Once after a game they won 4-3 he was later in the week confronted by a journo who asked if they had been working on the areas that made them concede 3 goals in the weekend. His reply was classy:

"No. That game is still 4-3 if I am not mistaken".

People worry too much about things. We are constantly improving, establishing us as one of the teams to really fear. A little like the season we came second. Teams are worried prior meeting Liverpool. Let them try to attack our weeknesses and we will gung ho them!
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We've been here before under both Evans and Rodgers in recent history. Rafa managed to get the balance largely right in that season with Torres and Gerrard.

You finish first by winning games though, and you do that by scoring more than the opposition. Heavy metal football right?

It's significant that we have made our best start to the league (goal scoring wise) since just after the dawn of man and also that we are the highest scoring team in the league since Klopp took over. The mixture of the squad and Klopp's methods has made us the most potent attack in the league and goals win games.

I'm not concerned about conceding a goal at Hull when we were already well up, or even the goal against Leicester at 2-0 because of the way we responded. I would be concerned though if all our games had been really tight affairs.
 
Windom Earle said:
We've been here before under both Evans and Rodgers in recent history. Rafa managed to get the balance largely right in that season with Torres and Gerrard.

You finish first by winning games though, and you do that by scoring more than the opposition. Heavy metal football right?

It's significant that we have made our best start to the league (goal scoring wise) since just after the dawn of man and also that we are the highest scoring team in the league since Klopp took over. The mixture of the squad and Klopp's methods has made us the most potent attack in the league and goals win games.

I'm not concerned about conceding a goal at Hull when we were already well up, or even the goal against Leicester at 2-0 because of the way we responded. I would be concerned though if all our games had been really tight affairs.
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The goal against Leicester is a personal error and not a consequence of how we play. The one against Hull is more of how we usually consede cause it is from a set piece. However we won the first header and the ball fell down in just the one place he could put it away. So we were not beaten the normal way, more a little unlucky that he got the ball right in his feet. If we avoided those two we would have 2 clean sheets and everyone would of course be delighted on how good we are??? Haha I bet you not. People would be in dispair to talk about our flaws and pinpoint how right they are!!!
 
Windom Earle said:
City's solitary clean sheet came at home to Bournemouth. As Hansern rightly points out, they have had a much easier run on paper. Sunderland, Stoke, West Ham and Swansea have all scored against them. Clean sheets are not as easy to come by in this league as they used to be.
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Somehow this doesn't apply to Spurs. Only 3 goals conceded so far this season!
 
rurikbird said:
Somehow this doesn't apply to Spurs. Only 3 goals conceded so far this season!
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Yes, defensively they are doing very well - but they are not scoring a great deal. They have scored 12 goals so far, with six goals scored in the two games against Stoke and Manchester City. Everything else they've edged by a goal.
 
Woland said:
Yeah, Spurs are doing my head in. We could have battered them too.
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The media coverage of that Spurs - City game was like watching a man breaking up with his girlfriend, while trying to propose marriage to a new one at the same time.
 
Windom Earle said:
Yes, defensively they are doing very well - but they are not scoring a great deal. They have scored 12 goals so far, with six goals scored in the two games against Stoke and Manchester City. Everything else they've edged by a goal.
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Kane always starts slowly, and is now injured, and his replacement Janssen looks shit and has been dropped for the more industrious Son.

So there's not a massive amount of goals there, apart from Delllleee Allliii
 
Alli has scored 1 goal so far I think. Hasnt been particularly good in any of the games I've seen either bar the City game where he scored.

Spurs havent exactly had the most difficult start mind.
Everton, Palace, us, Boro, Stoke, Sunderland, City. 1 difficult away game, City and us at home.

We should have won though, still annoys me.
 
manwithnoname said:
Kane always starts slowly, and is now injured, and his replacement Janssen looks shit and has been dropped for the more industrious Son.

So there's not a massive amount of goals there, apart from Delllleee Allliii
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There were some comparisons between Son and Suarez which is stretching it more than a bit. He has looked good in the highlights I've seen, but then I guess the Son Always Shines On TV.
 
Windom Earle said:
There were some comparisons between Son and Suarez which is stretching it more than a bit. He has looked good in the highlights I've seen, but then I guess the Son Always Shines On TV.
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He runs around a lot, and he was admittedly fucking brilliant against City - they couldn't cope with his pace, skill, workrate and movement.

But unlike Suarez, he didn't score.
 
Windom Earle said:
There were some comparisons between Son and Suarez which is stretching it more than a bit. He has looked good in the highlights I've seen, but then I guess the Son Always Shines On TV.
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I genuinely don't know if I should encourage that with a like or not. I'm just staring at it. Like a dead thing.

*prods Aha joke*
 
manwithnoname said:
Slightly different, someone actually wanted to pay £20m for Son.
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To drive the final nail in Son/Lucas coffin - Son allegedly asked to leave. That would never happen with Lucas, he is quite literally knitted into the fabric of Liverpool (it is the only explanation).
 
Some Turkish outfit offered two pints and a packet of crisps for Lucas but we still couldn't get rid!

Don't know why they would want to sell Son though, he cost 17mil a year ago and has always looked a very useful player when I've seen him
 
Windom Earle said:
To drive the final nail in Son/Lucas coffin - Son allegedly asked to leave. That would never happen with Lucas, he is quite literally knitted into the fabric of Liverpool (it is the only explanation).
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Son was frustrated about his lack of playing time. Lucas is such a great, loyal genuine fan of Liverpool, that he accepts a lack of playing time as being best for the team.
 
tony said:
Some Turkish outfit offered two pints and a packet of crisps for Lucas but we still couldn't get rid!

Don't know why they would want to sell Son though, he cost 17mil a year ago and has always looked a very useful player when I've seen him
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They didn't. Which is why they didn't.
 
tony said:
Some Turkish outfit offered two pints and a packet of crisps for Lucas but we still couldn't get rid!

Don't know why they would want to sell Son though, he cost 17mil a year ago and has always looked a very useful player when I've seen him
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£22m. Spurs have as checkered a past as we do when it comes to big money signings underwhelming/starting slowly. Plus, Kane was in great form last year and Spurs played one up front a lot; you can see why it was Summer Moved On (@cloggypop google it, I had to) almost for Son.
 
We are now doing puns for Aha songs that none of us, with the possible exception of the Scandos, have actually heard of? This is either a new low or high. Can't decide.

*moves Aha joke a bit with foot*
 
manwithnoname said:
They didn't. Which is why they didn't.
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They did From the Echo after speaking to the horses mouth

Lucas Leiva's Liverpool to Galatasaray transfer off, says Turkish club official
12:44, 10 Aug 2016
Updated 12:45, 10 Aug 2016
By Neil Jones

Lucas Leiva’s proposed transfer from Liverpool to Galatasaray is off, according to the Turkish club’s sporting director.
Levent Nazifoglu has told reporters in Istanbul that a move for the Brazilian has collapsed, and that the club will now pursue alternative targets
 
cloggypop said:
We are now doing puns for Aha songs that none of us, with the possible exception of the Scandos, have actually heard of? This is either a new low or high. Can't decide.

*moves Aha joke a bit with foot*
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It's a bastard that the one everybody knows is so awkward to work in.
 
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