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[quote author=Roopy link=topic=32819.msg845930#msg845930 date=1239794907]
It's so fucking annoying watching that guy play.

Although I won't doubt the brilliance he can conjure up at times, it just so annoying watching this guy play.

I don't know how Chelsea fans could put up with it.

Constantly on the ground claiming to be fouled, then doesn't get up for another 5 minutes pretending to be injured, then takes a few more moments to fix his socks and wave his finger around to the opposition saying he didn't dive.

Nothing has changed with this guy.

We need Danny Agger back in the side to sort the cunt out like he did at Anfield a few seasons back.
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No, he didn't. On the contrary, though I hate to say it Dogbreath raped him first time around, and he didn't have the excuse of being ill. What made the difference in the following game was that we made sure we cut off the supply to Dogbreath in the first place.
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Yes he did..

You don't like Dan Agger do you?
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We'll have to agree to disagree about your first sentence. Agger played an important part in our strategy to cut Dogbreath's supply off, but so did others, and there's no way he "sorted the cnut out" in his own right - unlike Skrtel, whom some people (especially the paid-up Aggerites) are so quick to criticise but who really did wipe the floor with Dogbreath the last time we played them in the CL. It was when Skrtel came off that the tie went away from us.

As for your question - wrong again. I do like and rate Agger, and I hope we keep him. I just don't get as starry-eyed about him as one or two on here.


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Spot on JJ.
 
On today of all days Paddy I thought you might not have posted something like that. It's a game of football.
 
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On today of all days Paddy I thought you might of not have posted something like that. It's a game of football.
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Yeah I do regret it. I just seen a picture of him in the paper and got angry.
 
its not his diving that bothers me, nando dives just as much.

it is the pretending to be injured after every challenge that makes him the biggest cuntish cheat in footy, it even seperates him even from the greasy manc cunt

at least our divers don't do that, some morals at least 😉
 
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It's so fucking annoying watching that guy play.

Although I won't doubt the brilliance he can conjure up at times, it just so annoying watching this guy play.

I don't know how Chelsea fans could put up with it.

Constantly on the ground claiming to be fouled, then doesn't get up for another 5 minutes pretending to be injured, then takes a few more moments to fix his socks and wave his finger around to the opposition saying he didn't dive.

Nothing has changed with this guy.

We need Danny Agger back in the side to sort the cunt out like he did at Anfield a few seasons back.
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No, he didn't. On the contrary, though I hate to say it Dogbreath raped him first time around, and he didn't have the excuse of being ill. What made the difference in the following game was that we made sure we cut off the supply to Dogbreath in the first place.
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Yes he did..

You don't like Dan Agger do you?
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We'll have to agree to disagree about your first sentence. Agger played an important part in our strategy to cut Dogbreath's supply off, but so did others, and there's no way he "sorted the cnut out" in his own right - unlike Skrtel, whom some people (especially the paid-up Aggerites) are so quick to criticise but who really did wipe the floor with Dogbreath the last time we played them in the CL. It was when Skrtel came off that the tie went away from us.

As for your question - wrong again. I do like and rate Agger, and I hope we keep him. I just don't get as starry-eyed about him as one or two on here.


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Judge to me you seem rather starry-eyed yourself. With regards to Skrtl.

We have conceeded 7 (seven) goals in his last two outings and he was the main culprit in more than one of those goals in my opinion.

The most pivotal one beeing the first Chelsea-goal last night. It was a rookie mistake to let Drogba even get a sniff of a chance to direct the cross from Anelka as Skrtl should've just kicked the ball into orbit. Whenever Chelsea increased presssure he looked like he lost his nerve from that point on.

I like Skrtl. I think he's got a future here but please stop all this 'he's a far better defender than Agger' nonsense.

He's not. At all.
 
[quote author=KopRed link=topic=32819.msg846030#msg846030 date=1239798622]
If he ever becomes available and we could afford him, would you say no? Torres and Drogba up front?

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What part of "No" do you not understand? He's a full on cheating cunt. Any team that relies on him and his tactics to win games has no soul and their success is meaningless.

The free kick for the Alex goal was not even a free kick. Torres was penalised for jumping into the man in the same place at the other end. Drogba on the other hand was barging the man before the ball arrived and then falling like he was shot to gain the free kick. Its not anything more than cheating.

That makes him a cunt and therefore not FIT to wear the shirt. Ever. And he's a cunt.
 
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If he ever becomes available and we could afford him, would you say no? Torres and Drogba up front?

[/quote]Fucking hell. Yes i'd say no. Hes a fucking cunt.
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We are short of the odd cunt. Look at Chelski and ManUre, full of cunts but they won the league.
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Ha. Good logic but it's still a 'no' . Three words: El Hadji Diouf.


Eww.
 
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It's so fucking annoying watching that guy play.

Although I won't doubt the brilliance he can conjure up at times, it just so annoying watching this guy play.

I don't know how Chelsea fans could put up with it.

Constantly on the ground claiming to be fouled, then doesn't get up for another 5 minutes pretending to be injured, then takes a few more moments to fix his socks and wave his finger around to the opposition saying he didn't dive.

Nothing has changed with this guy.

We need Danny Agger back in the side to sort the cunt out like he did at Anfield a few seasons back.
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No, he didn't. On the contrary, though I hate to say it Dogbreath raped him first time around, and he didn't have the excuse of being ill. What made the difference in the following game was that we made sure we cut off the supply to Dogbreath in the first place.
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Yes he did..

You don't like Dan Agger do you?
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We'll have to agree to disagree about your first sentence. Agger played an important part in our strategy to cut Dogbreath's supply off, but so did others, and there's no way he "sorted the cnut out" in his own right - unlike Skrtel, whom some people (especially the paid-up Aggerites) are so quick to criticise but who really did wipe the floor with Dogbreath the last time we played them in the CL. It was when Skrtel came off that the tie went away from us.

As for your question - wrong again. I do like and rate Agger, and I hope we keep him. I just don't get as starry-eyed about him as one or two on here.


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Judge to me you seem rather starry-eyed yourself. With regards to Skrtl.

We have conceeded 7 (seven) goals in his last two outings and he was the main culprit in more than one of those goals in my opinion.

The most pivotal one beeing the first Chelsea-goal last night. It was a rookie mistake to let Drogba even get a sniff of a chance to direct the cross from Anelka as Skrtl should've just kicked the ball into orbit. Whenever Chelsea increased presssure he looked like he lost his nerve from that point on.

I like Skrtl. I think he's got a future here but please stop all this 'he's a far better defender than Agger' nonsense.

He's not. At all.
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Not in the more constructive side of the game, but he's both quicker and stronger than Agger. Fact. He's proven it against Dogbreath (among others) before now, and those are areas which I suspect most of us - you'll have to speak for yourself on this - reckon important strengths in a CB.

Skrtel's not in his best form at the moment, and IMO Agger can count himself unlucky not to have been included last night. Maybe one day you'll say the same about Skrtel when Agger IS picked. I won't be holding my breath waiting though.
 
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[quote author=KopRed link=topic=32819.msg846030#msg846030 date=1239798622]
If he ever becomes available and we could afford him, would you say no? Torres and Drogba up front?

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What part of "No" do you not understand? He's a full on cheating cunt. Any team that relies on him and his tactics to win games has no soul and their success is meaningless.

The free kick for the Alex goal was not even a free kick. Torres was penalised for jumping into the man in the same place at the other end. Drogba on the other hand was barging the man before the ball arrived and then falling like he was shot to gain the free kick. Its not anything more than cheating.

That makes him a cunt and therefore not FIT to wear the shirt. Ever. And he's a cunt.
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I am a liverpool supporter, whatever improves the team, even if it means having an odd cunt or so. Of course i am all for the odd fairytale where nice boys grows up and become successful with his home team aka Gerrard/Carragher. But if one of the ever left liverpool (which Gerrard obviously almost did) i will continue to support liverpool. A player doesn't make the team, just like how a cunt doesn't make a team "cuntish". If Drogba had played for liverpool this season, we will walk the league and still be in the CL.

Fact.
 
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[quote author=KopRed link=topic=32819.msg846030#msg846030 date=1239798622]
If he ever becomes available and we could afford him, would you say no? Torres and Drogba up front?

[/quote]

What part of "No" do you not understand? He's a full on cheating cunt. Any team that relies on him and his tactics to win games has no soul and their success is meaningless.

The free kick for the Alex goal was not even a free kick. Torres was penalised for jumping into the man in the same place at the other end. Drogba on the other hand was barging the man before the ball arrived and then falling like he was shot to gain the free kick. Its not anything more than cheating.

That makes him a cunt and therefore not FIT to wear the shirt. Ever. And he's a cunt.
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I am a liverpool supporter, whatever improves the team, even if it means having an odd cunt or so. Of course i am all for the odd fairytale where nice boys grows up and become successful with his home team aka Gerrard/Carragher. But if one of the ever left liverpool (which Gerrard obviously almost did) i will continue to support liverpool. A player doesn't make the team, just like how a cunt doesn't make a team "cuntish". If Drogba had played for liverpool this season, we will walk the league and still be in the CL.
Fact.
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Actually that's your opinion, and therefore not "fact".
 
Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=32819.msg846390#msg846390 date=1239865074]
Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
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Trouble is Pat, that "mood" seems to be only reserved for the odd game or even half every now and then.

Stan Collymore had everything when he was in the "mood" too - and he didn't have to cheat to perform.
 
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Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
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Trouble is Pat, that "mood" seems to be only reserved for the odd game or even half every now and then.

Stan Collymore had everything when he was in the "mood" too - and he didn't have to cheat to perform.
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That is true, but under Hiddick there has been a marked improvement from him.

He's been scoring more freely and generally looking like the Drogba of 2 years ago.

And No Collymore couldn't totally dominate a centre half physically as Drogba can.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=32819.msg846390#msg846390 date=1239865074]
Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
[/quote]

Trouble is Pat, that "mood" seems to be only reserved for the odd game or even half every now and then.

Stan Collymore had everything when he was in the "mood" too - and he didn't have to cheat to perform.
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That is true, but under Hiddick there has been a marked improvement from him.

He's been scoring more freely and generally looking like the Drogba of 2 years ago.

And No Collymore couldn't totally dominate a centre half physically as Drogba can.

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I'd beg to differ on that point. I often saw Stan dominate the centre half and often the full back too, leaving space for a certain Robbie Fowler!
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=32819.msg846390#msg846390 date=1239865074]
Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
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No he isnt. On current form the best centre forward in the world is ......

Fernando Torres
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=32819.msg846390#msg846390 date=1239865074]
Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
[/quote]

Trouble is Pat, that "mood" seems to be only reserved for the odd game or even half every now and then.

Stan Collymore had everything when he was in the "mood" too - and he didn't have to cheat to perform.
[/quote]

That is true, but under Hiddick there has been a marked improvement from him.

He's been scoring more freely and generally looking like the Drogba of 2 years ago.

And No Collymore couldn't totally dominate a centre half physically as Drogba can.

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I'd beg to differ on that point. I often saw Stan dominate the centre half and often the full back too, leaving space for a certain Robbie Fowler!
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Agree to disagree, in the air Collymore was hmmm how shall I put this........ average at best and was never any good holding up the ball from a long punt. He needed it to feet or over the top to chase. His strength always was with the ball at his feet.
 
His antics and cuntish cheating helped Chelsea getting 29 free kicks, we got 14. That is shocking in such a tight and even game.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=32819.msg846390#msg846390 date=1239865074]
Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
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No he isnt. On current form the best centre forward in the world is ......

Fernando Torres
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Torres is magical and I'm delighted we have him, but Drogba has attributes to his game Torres simply doesn't.

Drogba pretty much took on our whole back line over the two legs, scored 2 and set up another while generally creating mayhem.

Torres scored a beauty, missed some half decent chances, one great one and didn't really get involved as he never got the service on the ground.

The main difference is that when space is tight on the ground you can still punt the ball up in the air to Drogba and he'll win/take it down/or win a free kick.

He's amazing at this and for the 2nd year in a row he's been the main reason we have gone out of the CL.
 
Drogba has persecuted Liverpool for years, I remember him destroying us when he was at Marseilles too

We struggle to cope with him no matter who we play; Carra, Hyypia, Agger and Skittles have all been taken to the cleaners by this ugly spaz-haired bellend over the years
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=32819.msg846126#msg846126 date=1239812105]

We'll have to agree to disagree about your first sentence. Agger played an important part in our strategy to cut Dogbreath's supply off, but so did others, and there's no way he "sorted the cnut out" in his own right - unlike Skrtel, whom some people (especially the paid-up Aggerites) are so quick to criticise but who really did wipe the floor with Dogbreath the last time we played them in the CL. It was when Skrtel came off that the tie went away from us.

As for your question - wrong again. I do like and rate Agger, and I hope we keep him. I just don't get as starry-eyed about him as one or two on here.


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Judge to me you seem rather starry-eyed yourself. With regards to Skrtl.

We have conceeded 7 (seven) goals in his last two outings and he was the main culprit in more than one of those goals in my opinion.

The most pivotal one beeing the first Chelsea-goal last night. It was a rookie mistake to let Drogba even get a sniff of a chance to direct the cross from Anelka as Skrtl should've just kicked the ball into orbit. Whenever Chelsea increased presssure he looked like he lost his nerve from that point on.

I like Skrtl. I think he's got a future here but please stop all this 'he's a far better defender than Agger' nonsense.

He's not. At all.
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I could be wrong but I don't ever remember JJ saying that Skrtel is a far better defender than Agger.

Agger has never dominated Drogba - in fact he's looked in trouble every time they've played with the exception of a charity shield game. Having said that Skrtel has, to my mind, only dominated Drogba once - he's just never been destroyed by him the way Agger has. Culture - which Agger has in abundance - is not the quality you need to take him on. Toughness on the other hand - which Skrtel has in abundance - is.

As for commenting on their performances - I found it frustrating as hell that Agger was not there and Skrtel was because one is clearly out of form. I personally thought Carra, Sami and Agger should have been playing from the start - Sami essentially because we needed some dominance in the air after getting raped in that area last time.

As for the comments on Drogba?? That some LFC supporters would want him at Liverpool makes me wince. One of the hardest things I've had to do as a supporter of Liverpool is put up with watching Paul Ince playing in midfield. I want the club I support to continue to stand for certain qualities and to "add" to football rather than detract from it. Drogba is certainly a tremendously gifted player but he doesn't add to the game - rather the game is poorer for his presence.
 
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We'll have to agree to disagree about your first sentence. Agger played an important part in our strategy to cut Dogbreath's supply off, but so did others, and there's no way he "sorted the cnut out" in his own right - unlike Skrtel, whom some people (especially the paid-up Aggerites) are so quick to criticise but who really did wipe the floor with Dogbreath the last time we played them in the CL. It was when Skrtel came off that the tie went away from us.

As for your question - wrong again. I do like and rate Agger, and I hope we keep him. I just don't get as starry-eyed about him as one or two on here.


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Judge to me you seem rather starry-eyed yourself. With regards to Skrtl.

We have conceeded 7 (seven) goals in his last two outings and he was the main culprit in more than one of those goals in my opinion.

The most pivotal one beeing the first Chelsea-goal last night. It was a rookie mistake to let Drogba even get a sniff of a chance to direct the cross from Anelka as Skrtl should've just kicked the ball into orbit. Whenever Chelsea increased presssure he looked like he lost his nerve from that point on.

I like Skrtl. I think he's got a future here but please stop all this 'he's a far better defender than Agger' nonsense.

He's not. At all.
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I could be wrong but I don't ever remember JJ saying that Skrtel is a far better defender than Agger.

Agger has never dominated Drogba - in fact he's looked in trouble every time they've played with the exception of a charity shield game. Having said that Skrtel has, to my mind, only dominated Drogba once - he's just never been destroyed by him the way Agger has. Culture - which Agger has in abundance - is not the quality you need to take him on. Toughness on the other hand - which Skrtel has in abundance - is.

As for commenting on their performances - I found it frustrating as hell that Agger was not there and Skrtel was because one is clearly out of form. I personally thought Carra, Sami and Agger should have been playing from the start - Sami essentially because we needed some dominance in the air after getting raped in that area last time.

As for the comments on Drogba?? That some LFC supporters would want him at Liverpool makes me wince. One of the hardest things I've had to do as a supporter of Liverpool is put up with watching Paul Ince playing in midfield. I want the club I support to continue to stand for certain qualities and to "add" to football rather than detract from it. Drogba is certainly a tremendously gifted player but he doesn't add to the game - rather the game is poorer for his presence.
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My point beeing; I don't think Skrtl's a better defender at defending than Agger even though the latter is the more cultured. I think it's a misconception made by many trying too hard to argue why it's sound that Skrtl's beeing picked ahead of Agger.

Skrtl may be stronger and maybe even faster too but surely that doesn't make him a better defender just like that? There's a lot of strong defenders in the Premiership and in the Championship as well but I'll bet my bottom-dollar Agger's still the better defender because of attributes such as positioning, understanding, timing etc.

When it comes to Drogba, he's probably unplayable for any defender when at his best. And it does happen to every defender in the world, sometimes they are simply beeing outplayed by a sublime striker. Even when it comes to the-worlds-greatest-player-ever-Vidic who was very recently made to look more like a Sunday League-player to me than anything else because of Torres.

The main thing is how the best defenders react to their flaws and poor games in my opinion.

Agger was owned at the Bridge a few years back but his immediate response was immense. He was bullying Drogba for most parts of the return leg at Anfield making amends and showed everyone what a quick learner he is. Skrtl has been owned by Drogba twice now within a week and I think he's looked extremely poor at times with his overall decision-making and positioning. This has sadly been the case quite a lot of late when put under pressure and he's in desperate need for a rest.

For me it's quite a simple equation really.

Skrtl is a very good defender and we're lucky to have him < Agger is a great defender and we're spoiled that he's ours < Carra
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=32819.msg846126#msg846126 date=1239812105]

We'll have to agree to disagree about your first sentence. Agger played an important part in our strategy to cut Dogbreath's supply off, but so did others, and there's no way he "sorted the cnut out" in his own right - unlike Skrtel, whom some people (especially the paid-up Aggerites) are so quick to criticise but who really did wipe the floor with Dogbreath the last time we played them in the CL. It was when Skrtel came off that the tie went away from us.

As for your question - wrong again. I do like and rate Agger, and I hope we keep him. I just don't get as starry-eyed about him as one or two on here.


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Judge to me you seem rather starry-eyed yourself. With regards to Skrtl.

We have conceeded 7 (seven) goals in his last two outings and he was the main culprit in more than one of those goals in my opinion.

The most pivotal one beeing the first Chelsea-goal last night. It was a rookie mistake to let Drogba even get a sniff of a chance to direct the cross from Anelka as Skrtl should've just kicked the ball into orbit. Whenever Chelsea increased presssure he looked like he lost his nerve from that point on.

I like Skrtl. I think he's got a future here but please stop all this 'he's a far better defender than Agger' nonsense.

He's not. At all.
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I could be wrong but I don't ever remember JJ saying that Skrtel is a far better defender than Agger.

Agger has never dominated Drogba - in fact he's looked in trouble every time they've played with the exception of a charity shield game. Having said that Skrtel has, to my mind, only dominated Drogba once - he's just never been destroyed by him the way Agger has. Culture - which Agger has in abundance - is not the quality you need to take him on. Toughness on the other hand - which Skrtel has in abundance - is.

As for commenting on their performances - I found it frustrating as hell that Agger was not there and Skrtel was because one is clearly out of form. I personally thought Carra, Sami and Agger should have been playing from the start - Sami essentially because we needed some dominance in the air after getting raped in that area last time.

As for the comments on Drogba?? That some LFC supporters would want him at Liverpool makes me wince. One of the hardest things I've had to do as a supporter of Liverpool is put up with watching Paul Ince playing in midfield. I want the club I support to continue to stand for certain qualities and to "add" to football rather than detract from it. Drogba is certainly a tremendously gifted player but he doesn't add to the game - rather the game is poorer for his presence.
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My point beeing; I don't think Skrtl's a better defender at defending than Agger even though the latter is the more cultured. I think it's a misconception made by many trying too hard to argue why it's sound that Skrtl's beeing picked ahead of Agger.

Skrtl may be stronger and maybe even faster too but surely that doesn't make him a better defender just like that? There's a lot of strong defenders in the Premiership and in the Championship as well but I'll bet my bottom-dollar Agger's still the better defender because of attributes such as positioning, understanding, timing etc.

When it comes to Drogba, he's probably unplayable for any defender when at his best. And it does happen to every defender in the world, sometimes they are simply beeing outplayed by a sublime striker. Even when it comes to the-worlds-greatest-player-ever-Vidic who was very recently made to look more like a Sunday League-player to me than anything else because of Torres.

The main thing is how the best defenders react to their flaws and poor games in my opinion.

Agger was owned at the Bridge a few years back but his immediate response was immense. He was bullying Drogba for most parts of the return leg at Anfield making amends and showed everyone what a quick learner he is. Skrtl has been owned by Drogba twice now within a week and I think he's looked extremely poor at times with his overall decision-making and positioning. This has sadly been the case quite a lot of late when put under pressure and he's in desperate need for a rest.

For me it's quite a simple equation really.

Skrtl is a very good defender and we're lucky to have him < Agger is a great defender and we're spoiled that he's ours < Carra
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that's how I saw it as well, drogba dominted agger in the first leg and agger snuffed him out second leg.
this time around drogba has the freedom of the park in both ties with skrtal (and to a lesser extent carra) failing to get to grips with him.
 
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S K R T L

🙂
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you tomato and I say tomato you say potato and I say potato,
tomato, tomato, potato, potato, let's call the whole thing off.
 
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S K R T L

🙂
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you tomato and I say tomato you say potato and I say potato,
tomato, tomato, potato, potato, let's call the whole thing off.
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I'm tomato?

:-X
 
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Drogba is..........

the best centre forward in the world.........

when in the mood.

Its a shame he gets away with his antics so much.
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Trouble is Pat, that "mood" seems to be only reserved for the odd game or even half every now and then.

Stan Collymore had everything when he was in the "mood" too - and he didn't have to cheat to perform.
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That is true, but under Hiddick there has been a marked improvement from him.

He's been scoring more freely and generally looking like the Drogba of 2 years ago.

And No Collymore couldn't totally dominate a centre half physically as Drogba can.

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I'd beg to differ on that point. I often saw Stan dominate the centre half and often the full back too, leaving space for a certain Robbie Fowler!
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He dominated in a different way though, he was fast and used his power sometimes to get past opponents, his hold up play and aerial ability was nowhere near the same league as Drogba's, he was always better running onto the ball than carrying and holding possession.
 
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that's how I saw it as well, drogba dominted agger in the first leg and agger snuffed him out second leg.
this time around drogba has the freedom of the park in both ties with skrtal (and to a lesser extent carra) failing to get to grips with him.
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That's so wide of the mark. Agger got overpowered at Stamford Bridge, we kept possession better in their half at Anfield and snuffed out their supply, the only reason Agger got the plaudits was (once again) for scoring a goal rather than any defensive heroics.

Skrtel, for all his soul responsibility for giving Drogba the freedom of the park the other night (even though one goal came from the left, with Pepe and Aurelio largely at fault), was the main reason we got beat there last season. As soon as he went off the game changed for the worse. He played very well against Drogba last season in the league and the CL.

The whole backline aren't functioning too well as a unit, blame it on collective form and fatigue or whatever, for the most part the same backline has been excellent this season.
 
drogba uses raw power but I feel sorry for the defenders he is up against because most of the time they attempt to stand their ground and he just pitches forwards gaining a foul. if crouch attempted to do the same thing he'd get punished, no two ways about it.
 
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