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Years ago this would've been a tougher decision.
I used to care about England, but these days they just don't even come up on my radar. Capello has gone back on his word and he's been a big disappointment as a manager. Most of the players in that side I can't stand and wish no success for.
Liverpool all the way.
[/quote]Yup, this is almost totally my view.
When i was a kid Liverpool won everything and i took that for granted, that it would always be that way. Footballers then achieved the pinnacle of thier careers when they played for England, and the whole nation wanted England to win. Back in 82, 86, 90 and even 96 and 98. But gradually the importance of champions league added the paucity of our major titles wins has increased the interest in domestic football and reduced that of International.
I would now (probably for the first time ever) pick Liverpool winning the league over England winning. I dont like the FA i dont like the manager or most of the players and the lack of touch the 'England Show' has with the common man is a joke.
Players retiring from international football at 25, constant meaningless friendlies, rotating captains, wags etc etc its just a big ugly show.
Im born English and i will always want to win, and when we get to tournaments i will really want to win and really be into it. But i chose Liverpool.
That means more.
Liverpool > England.
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In 82 and 86 I'll warrant you were supporting Norn Iron you fucking defector.
[/quote]No. Never mate. I always had a soft spot, and even had the green shirt but its always been England for me.
England > NORN > Ireland > NO ONE...EVERYONE ELSE CAN FUCK OFF.