Danke Jurgen

[localny]

I'm not saying we're going to win this 2 legged tie (although we probably will!)

I'm not saying we're not capable of losing silly games, or that we're 100% going to make the top 4.

That being said, I want to say thanks to the Gaffer for turning me from a doubter to a believer like he said he would.

When I think back to where we were under Rodgers, and Hodgson. We really have come a long way.

Danke Jurgen

PS: I am however saying we've got a good shot at winning the CL.

 

[rurikbird]

I think it's a pretty safe to say that we're in the 1/4 of the Champions League. For the first time in 10 years or something like that? That's already something.

 

[darkstarexodus]

I'm a believer (cynical posts are only to protect me) but let's not forget how many became believers during the run under Rodgers . He lost the plot but that was an amazing year.

 

[doctor_mac]

That was an outstanding performance tonight, and it was a complete Klopp game. That's what he can do. I want to see more please. Lots more.

 

[Skullflower]

Just look at the gate of big virge. We're winning this.

 

[HC]

To be fair to Brodge, he got us closer to the big one than Klopp or anyone else has in eons. I believed like a motherfucker in 2013.

 

[SummerOnions]

Guarantee Big Jurg is swinging dicks with Virgil on the lash in Porto this eve

 

[localny]

To be fair to Brodge, he got us closer to the big one than Klopp or anyone else has in eons. I believed like a motherfucker in 2013.

Agreed, but he was awful in Europe. Devoid of idea's ability, Pedigree or good results.

At least with Klopp, you know there's some Euro know how.

 

[Molbystwin]

To be fair to Brodge, he got us closer to the big one than Klopp or anyone else has in eons. I believed like a motherfucker in 2013.

Yeah so did I, but he did have Suarez at his unbelievably good peak and Sturridge was sublime that season too... I felt sorry the way it went for Brodge but at the same time his signings were mostly dodgy as fuck and we had ZERO need to aim for a win against Chelsea in the game which cost us the league title. Unlucky as fuck...

I really like Klopp, and I rather enjoyed looking at the newspaper at 6:45 am to read we had won 5 nil away at Porto.

 

[JohnnyRocket]

Rodgers did indeed get us closer than any other, and always deserves respect for that.

However, like many decent/average managers before him have done, he rode the wave of having 3 or 4 players in the form of their lives in one season. (See Leicester 2016)

With Jurgen a few times and Benitez before, you see performances that are beyond merely a few good players turnning it on. A professional, co-ordinated destruction of the opposition - according to a very specific plan. I never really saw that ever under Rodgers. Which is why he was probably so poor in Europe.

With Rodgers 2014 team, even at their best, you did get a bit of the feeling that he was merely throwing his best 11 out there like a pair of dice and hoping for Suarez and Sturridge magic.

 

[localny]

Indulge me for a moment, will you - as I see Liverpool Beat Barca 5-0 in Kiev on May 26, and take home #6.

Then, above all the din, we see Klopp yelling from the stands, where he's picking up the trophy, down to the Barca camp and he can be heard shouting at a fully dressed Barca player, a diminutive figure, with head crouched over. The words barely audible sound like "Phillipe, phillipe, come get your medal, you've earned it"..

 

[JohnnyRocket]

Yeah so did I, but he did have Suarez at his unbelievably good peak and Sturridge was sublime that season too... I felt sorry the way it went for Brodge but at the same time his signings were mostly dodgy as fuck and we had ZERO need to aim for a win against Chelsea in the game which cost us the league title. Unlucky as fuck...

I really like Klopp, and I rather enjoyed looking at the newspaper at 6:45 am to read we had won 5 nil away at Porto.

I dont know. I always tend to disagree with the sentiments on the Chelsea game. They were so weakened that day, that they were really there for the taking. I remember some kid playing centre back I'd never even heard of. I really thought we'd thump them by 3 or 4 that day.

We needed 7 points in 3 games. Better to get the points in sooner rather than later.

 

[LarryHagman]

Whilst we're all ecstatic at our latest result, there's some cheap shots in here that are complete bollocks.

"When I think back to where we were under Rodgers" - really? What, like nearly winning the League?

"..like many decent/average managers before him have done, he rode the wave of having 3 or 4 players in the form of their lives in one season." I hope for Klopp's sake we're not seeing another one unfold as we go. If we lose one of the front 3 and another delivers less next season, who knows? Like, Rodgers was good because of Suarez but Klopp is ace despite 30-goal Salah. Yeah, right.

I just don't know why we need this after a result like last night. Boring and revisionist.

The Porto game was one of our great European nights yet we have this nonsense. It might be worth waiting until we win something to turn the knife even further.

 

[manwithnoname]

Whilst we're all ecstatic at our latest result, there's some cheap shots in here that are complete bollocks.

"When I think back to where we were under Rodgers" - really? What, like nearly winning the League?

"..like many decent/average managers before him have done, he rode the wave of having 3 or 4 players in the form of their lives in one season." I hope for Klopp's sake we're not seeing another one unfold as we go. If we lose one of the front 3 and another delivers less next season, who knows? Like, Rodgers was good because of Suarez but Klopp is ace despite 30-goal Salah. Yeah, right.

I just don't know why we need this after a result like last night. Boring and revisionist.

The Porto game was one of our great European nights yet we have this nonsense. It might be worth waiting until we win something to turn the knife even further.

I don't think it's fair to try and dismiss entirely what Rodgers achieved at Liverpool, or claim it was just about the players he had, because he's clearly gone on to do an amazing job at Celtic, and his next club will be interesting too.

But there is some substance in comparing the glory of his "oh so close" second spot to Leicester's fluke title; it was a bit of a one-off. And he made some horrific decisions too.

As for comparing him to Klopp, I don't think anyone would be confused as to who is the better manager, or who they'd prefer to be in charge, but until he wins something, I'm not ready to eulogise him either.

 

[LarryHagman]

Benitez even gets a mention. He's like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. Anyone got his email address so I can thank him for last night?

 

[Jerry Laser]

If he wins the CL this season ala Benitez then he can put on a Bavarian Bierkeller outfit... some sexy suspenders and slap my bratwurst as much as he likes.....

 

[Judge Jules]

I dont know. I always tend to disagree with the sentiments on the Chelsea game. They were so weakened that day, that they were really there for the taking. I remember some kid playing centre back I'd never even heard of. I really thought we'd thump them by 3 or 4 that day.

We needed 7 points in 3 games. Better to get the points in sooner rather than later.

I see what you're saying, but I don't agree. They weren't that weak, they still had Mourinho in charge and, if there's one thing he can do well, it's park the bus (that kid defender of theirs for example played the game of his life). We could and should have beaten them, but given whom we were up against we needed to be more canny in how we set about it.

 

[gene hughes]

Rodgers did indeed get us closer than any other, and always deserves respect for that.

However, like many decent/average managers before him have done, he rode the wave of having 3 or 4 players in the form of their lives in one season. (See Leicester 2016)

With Jurgen a few times and Benitez before, you see performances that are beyond merely a few good players turnning it on. A professional, co-ordinated destruction of the opposition - according to a very specific plan. I never really saw that ever under Rodgers. Which is why he was probably so poor in Europe.

With Rodgers 2014 team, even at their best, you did get a bit of the feeling that he was merely throwing his best 11 out there like a pair of dice and hoping for Suarez and Sturridge magic.

I don’t remember it quite like that. I remember Rodgers being quite creative tactically at times. He played around a bit with Gerrard’s role, moved sterling and Coutinho around even playing sterling to great effect at the tip of a midfield diamond in a few games. I remember he even once had us play long balls over the Southampton midfield to beat their press and we won because of it. I’m not saying he was a genius but he did have tactics and try different things.

Of course as you say he had a few players in great form and that can bail you out when you get your tactics wrong.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

I dont know. I always tend to disagree with the sentiments on the Chelsea game. They were so weakened that day, that they were really there for the taking. I remember some kid playing centre back I'd never even heard of. I really thought we'd thump them by 3 or 4 that day.

We needed 7 points in 3 games. Better to get the points in sooner rather than later.

Fair point but we were really pressing it in that game and we were never going to destroy them like we did other teams. Mourinho teams rarely get pummelled. I remember Suarez getting enraged over Chelsea early time wasting in the first half of the game. We should have let them at it. They still had an outside shot at the league so the onus was really on them. Look at how high our centre backs were when Gerrard slipped too.There's going for it in a controlled manner and there's that.

 

[ILD]

With Rodgers 2014 team, even at their best, you did get a bit of the feeling that he was merely throwing his best 11 out there like a pair of dice and hoping for Suarez and Sturridge magic.

I don't think it's fair to try and dismiss entirely what Rodgers achieved at Liverpool, or claim it was just about the players he had, because he's clearly gone on to do an amazing job at Celtic, and his next club will be interesting too.

Yep, I still think that it's harsh to say Rodgers only did well that year because he had Suarez. We aren't saying Klopp is only doing well because we have Salah.

 

[Woland]

Maureen had an interview just before the game where he said his tactics in big games were to let the opposition to have the ball most of the time as more often than not they're decided by a mistake in possession. And look what happened. We did only need a draw, but it wasn't just Brodge who didn't seem to understand, it was the crowd. Chelsea started shithousing from the first minute and everyone started screaming at the ref for timewasting, where I was sat there wondering why. We didn't need to take the game to them at all.

Anyways, I'm getting PTSD. Let's park this now.

 

[Athens]

Who was the poster that started a thread a few months ago suggesting we get rid of him?

 

[doctor_mac]

Probably Oncy.

 

[the count]

Who was the poster that started a thread a few months ago suggesting we get rid of him?

Raz maybe?

 

[Red Mullet]

Who was the poster that started a thread a few months ago suggesting we get rid of him?

Shines the Rosco light to search through old threads.

 

[RedStar]

Yep, I still think that it's harsh to say Rodgers only did well that year because he had Suarez. We aren't saying Klopp is only doing well because we have Salah.

Thats because in relative terms we arent really doing that well, in the 13/14 season we finished on 84 points, 2 behind City who won it. The whole 'its only because of Suarez' thing was a blatant attempt to discredit Rodgers unfairly. There was always an element of snobbery about Rodgers in the media as if he just didnt belong at a big club, its baffling because its the sort of thing you expect fans of other clubs to start getting behind, not supporters of your own team. Compare that with how every media outlet couldnt stop fawning over Hodgson despite him being comically inept.

This season we are sitting 3rd, 18 points off the pace but thats mainly because so far City have been the most ruthless team in the history of the premier league. Theres no need to discredit Klopp because we arent going to come within a mile of winning the title and weve known it since about September.

 

[Ryan]

Just look at the gate of big virge. We're winning this.

gait

 

[moron]

Maureen had an interview just before the game where he said his tactics in big games were to let the opposition to have the ball most of the time as more often than not they're decided by a mistake in possession. And look what happened. We did only need a draw, but it wasn't just Brodge who didn't seem to understand, it was the crowd. Chelsea started shithousing from the first minute and everyone started screaming at the ref for timewasting, where I was sat there wondering why. We didn't need to take the game to them at all.

Anyways, I'm getting PTSD. Let's park this now.

You are right about what we should have done that afternoon. its hard to let go of that game and what happened.

 

[peekay]

Nice article: The Passion of Klopp

http://www.goal.com/story/the-passion-of-klopp/

 

[FoxForceFive]

Who was the poster that started a thread a few months ago suggesting we get rid of him?

I think it may have been RedNinja but he was trying to take the piss & everyone got the wrong end of the stick.

I may be mistaken though.