Dalglish Opposes Hodgson as Liverpool Manager

[rebel23]

Go Dalglish !

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Kenny Dalglish opposes Liverpool appointing Roy Hodgson.

Tony Barrett June 21 2010 7:28PM


Kenny Dalglish will consider his future at Liverpool if they appoint Roy Hodgson as manager, with club officials having been made aware that their kingmaker is not supportive of the proposed coronation.

Hodgson, the odds-on favourite to succeed Rafael Benítez, is the favoured candidate of the Anfield hierarchy, despite not having won a trophy in English football. It has even been suggested that his expected move from Fulham could be completed by the end of this week.

But having informed the board of his opinion that he would be the right man for the job, Dalglish, 59, has made it abundantly clear that he feels he is a better candidate for the position than Hodgson, despite his longstanding friendship with the Fulham manager.

Should Liverpool not back Dalglish’s judgment after giving him the task of spearheading their search for a new manager then they will run the risk of making his position untenable, less than a year after he returned to the club in a dual role combining ambassadorial duties with a post at the Liverpool Academy in Kirkby.

Dalglish enjoys immense popular support among the Liverpool fanbase because of his legendary status at the club he served with great success as player and manager.

A Times online survey has indicated that he is the man most Liverpool supporters would like to see replace Benítez, with 57.5 per cent of those who took part in the poll backing Dalglish. Hodgson, by contrast, attracted only 6.5 per cent of the vote, in keeping with the prevailing feeling at the club that he may have succeeded in gaining support from the board, but winning over the supporters is likely to be a more arduous task.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article2566617.ece

 

[SummerOnions]

I love articles with no quotes, they could make me believe anything.

 

[rebel23]

Barrett doesn't write bullshit about LFC

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Barrett's certainly better than most.

 

[SummerOnions]

Maybe.

Also, have the times premiumed their website?

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Yeah, they think others will follow suit.

 

[keniget]

Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.

 

[Rosco]

Barrett's pretty solid, but his opinion pieces are usually not something I'd generally agree with.

 

[SummerOnions]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40695.msg1124538#msg1124538 date=1277158834]
Yeah, they think others will follow suit.
[/quote]

Crap.

 

[Squiggles]

I hope Dalglish does not throw his toys out the pram about this.

The last thing we need is more negative publicity and he's clearly good to have around the club.

 

[mark1975]

Barrett doesn't write shite, generally, but this story was reported about a fortnight ago, it's hardly breaking news.

 

[Buddha]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124540#msg1124540 date=1277158999]
Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.
[/quote]

He was also tasked with finding and recommending the next manager. If they appoint Hodgson they've completely disregarded his role.

 

[Richey]

I agree, but weren't there other stories that he stood down from that role because he wanted the job himself?

 

[TheBunnyman]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40695.msg1124571#msg1124571 date=1277163700]
I hope Dalglish does not throw his toys out the pram about this.

The last thing we need is more negative publicity and he's clearly good to have around the club.
[/quote]

Yeah. This is not good.

 

[Insignificance]

I expect Tom hicks to come out and demonstrate who is the boss by hiring Hodgson.... Fucking cunt...

 

[Squiggles]

[quote author=Buddha link=topic=40695.msg1124596#msg1124596 date=1277190510]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124540#msg1124540 date=1277158999]
Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.
[/quote]

He was also tasked with finding and recommending the next manager. If they appoint Hodgson they've completely disregarded his role.
[/quote]

He was part of a team. It's not solely down to him. Disagreeing Dalglish isn't the man for the job is not "disregarding his role".

 

[keniget]

[quote author=Buddha link=topic=40695.msg1124596#msg1124596 date=1277190510]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124540#msg1124540 date=1277158999]
Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.
[/quote]

He was also tasked with finding and recommending the next manager. If they appoint Hodgson they've completely disregarded his role.
[/quote]

Not him alone though, right?

Either way, when you're tasked to headhunt someone, you're not really expected to go "well, actually sod that, I'll just do the job myself".

 

[keniget]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40695.msg1124604#msg1124604 date=1277192879]It's not solely down to him. Disagreeing Dalglish isn't the man for the job is not "disregarding his role".
[/quote]

And that too.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124605#msg1124605 date=1277192965]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=40695.msg1124596#msg1124596 date=1277190510]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124540#msg1124540 date=1277158999]
Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.
[/quote]

He was also tasked with finding and recommending the next manager. If they appoint Hodgson they've completely disregarded his role.
[/quote]

Not him alone though, right?

Either way, when you're tasked to headhunt someone, you're not really expected to go "well, actually sod that, I'll just do the job myself".
[/quote]

I agree Ken

As Mark said , this was rather old news anyway wasn't it?

regards

 

[Buddha]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124605#msg1124605 date=1277192965]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=40695.msg1124596#msg1124596 date=1277190510]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124540#msg1124540 date=1277158999]
Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.
[/quote]

He was also tasked with finding and recommending the next manager. If they appoint Hodgson they've completely disregarded his role.
[/quote]

Not him alone though, right?

Either way, when you're tasked to headhunt someone, you're not really expected to go "well, actually sod that, I'll just do the job myself".
[/quote]

It was Dalglish and Purslow I think.

My reading of the situation is not that Dalglish considers himself the best manager around, just that he's clear that signing Hodgson is not the way forward - and that he is a better candidate then Woy. It's certainly unusual to say that when asked to recommend someone, but all the more significant that Dalglish has. He's never struck me as someone preoccupied with themselves.

Given Dalglish has offered a strong opinion on the idea of Woy (either don't hire him or hire me instead), I'd say the best way forward is to heed his advice and either hire Dalglish or someone else.

Of course, I don't want Hodgson anywhere near Anfield, nice man that he undoubtedly is.

 

[jexykrodic]

Until a top Manager becomes available we should entrust the job to Dalglish it'll get some positive media coverage, galvanise the players to stay and get fractious fans onside.

As for Hodgson, LFC should offer to start his pension early and buy him a house in NZ on the understanding we keep his passport.

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Buddha link=topic=40695.msg1124639#msg1124639 date=1277198746]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124605#msg1124605 date=1277192965]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=40695.msg1124596#msg1124596 date=1277190510]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40695.msg1124540#msg1124540 date=1277158999]
Is it not a bit much to get all upset about not being appointed manager after only being brought back as ambassador / Academy whatever?

Hope this is not true.
[/quote]

He was also tasked with finding and recommending the next manager. If they appoint Hodgson they've completely disregarded his role.
[/quote]

Not him alone though, right?

Either way, when you're tasked to headhunt someone, you're not really expected to go "well, actually sod that, I'll just do the job myself".
[/quote]

It was Dalglish and Purslow I think.

My reading of the situation is not that Dalglish considers himself the best manager around, just that he's clear that signing Hodgson is not the way forward - and that he is a better candidate then Woy. It's certainly unusual to say that when asked to recommend someone, but all the more significant that Dalglish has. He's never struck me as someone preoccupied with themselves.

Given Dalglish has offered a strong opinion on the idea of Woy (either don't hire him or hire me instead), I'd say the best way forward is to heed his advice and either hire Dalglish or someone else.

Of course, I don't want Hodgson anywhere near Anfield, nice man that he undoubtedly is.
[/quote]


That's my take on it too; in fact I'd go so far as to suggest that if there's any real opposition from Dalglish regarding Hodgson, it's because he's holding out for better (as are we all).

 

[Squiggles]

Which "top manager" to come along?

Who do we have in mind?

The pro-Dalglish crew are very vague with their ideas

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40695.msg1124650#msg1124650 date=1277199501]
Which "top manager" to come along?

Who do we have in mind?

The pro-Dalglish crew are very vague with their ideas
[/quote]

The problem seem to be that we havent creafted a way forward. We dont have given credentials to base the hunt for a new manager on. What are we really looking at? Are we turning into a more british style, then we need to be very patience, because the whole set up is today very continental. But if that was a decision made, we would have to stick to the idea whatever happened wit Hodgson. We can not twist and turn if we meet any obstacles on the way. The club has to decide in what direction they want to go and then hire a manager, not just hire a manager and see which way the club turns.

Unfortunately we do not have a strong management to make the correct decisions on this, hence Dalglish was a perfect match for the management to find the next step. If they decide to not listen to him, they are really risking the clubs short term, and so also long term future here.

 

[LadyRed]

I thought Hodgson had been ruled out for the job? He's playing pundit in SA, so you wouldn't imagine we're negociating with him at the mo.

What happened with Pellergrini?

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=40695.msg1124658#msg1124658 date=1277200031]
I thought Hodgson had been ruled out for the job? He's playing pundit in SA, so you wouldn't imagine we're negociating with him at the mo.

What happened with Pellergrini?
[/quote]

There is really no reason for this story to be more true than the ones stating that Hodgson would sort out his Anfield contract before he went to SA. All stories these days seem to be pure speculation.

 

[jexykrodic]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40695.msg1124650#msg1124650 date=1277199501]
Which "top manager" to come along?

Who do we have in mind?

The pro-Dalglish crew are very vague with their ideas
[/quote]

My top manager would be Mourinho appointed by new owners, given the expected length taken for a sale go ahead and the duration of Mourinho's current contract it may be a good fit.

As for vague, can there be anything more vague than appointing Hodgson who has had a long career during which he's maintained a scrupulously unsuccessful record and whose main USP is his niceness.

Anybody but Benitez works up to the point you sack him after that you get to the point we're at now when the realisation that we've chucked the baby out with the bath water registers. It's what you get when you follow the whim of the media. The club's a fuckin' soap opera.

 

[LadyRed]

I'm so frustrated. I just want to know what's what. Enough with this drama already.

 

[rebel23]

Pellegrini is a top manager, he's just managed at the biggest club in Spain, got their record points total in the league and is contractually free


managing Fulham and Blackburn is a world away from that

 

[Squiggles]

[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=40695.msg1124665#msg1124665 date=1277200160]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40695.msg1124650#msg1124650 date=1277199501]
Which "top manager" to come along?

Who do we have in mind?

The pro-Dalglish crew are very vague with their ideas
[/quote]

My top manager would be Mourinho appointed by new owners, given the expected length taken for a sale go ahead and the duration of Mourinho's current contract it may be a good fit.

As for vague, can there be anything more vague than appointing Hodgson who has had a long career during which he's maintained a scrupulously unsuccessful record and whose main USP is his niceness.

Anybody but Benitez works up to the point you sack him after that you get to the point we're at now when the realisation that we've chucked the baby out with the bath water registers. It's what you get when you follow the whim of the media. The club's a fuckin' soap opera.
[/quote]

Uh, I think you need to look up what vague means.

As for Mourinho, get real. We don't know how long it will take to get sold. We don't know how long he'll last at Madrid. And even if we do attract new owners, chances are he'll *still* have better offers when he does leave Madrid. People are living with their heads in the clouds.

Hodgson and Pellegrinni are the realistic candidates, because they have over-achieved with their clubs in recent years and both have now managed big teams. Like it or not, they tick more boxes than Dalglish for the short term, and in times of crisis, its the short term we have to consider. Not fantasy tales that Mourinho might come and manage us in a few years time.

And even if he did, he could replace Hodgson or Pellegrinni no problem.

And we should not threatened by the scare-tactics saying all our big players will leave unless we appoint Dalglish. Masher wants off anyway, even when Benitez was in charge, Gerrard might understandably be tempted by Madrid, which leaves only Torres who reportedly reaffirmed his commitment to the club today.

The case for Dalglish just doesn't stack up.