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You’ll always see arguments about states v businesses resident there v funds etc. City argue that they are not owned by the state, Newcastle the same, but there are those who think the ties are too close for comfort (eg although Newcastle is owned by the PIF, most people think MBS de facto controls it so it’s equivalent to state ownership).
The prohibition on owning two clubs, I think, is a Premiership rule, albeit one that might be mirrored in other national leagues, hence Red Bill can own two clubs in different leagues (also City with investments across the globe, including Europe).
It all comes down to sporting integrity - the Premier League won’t accept any half measures (hence also loan players can’t play against their parent clubs, but Spain, for example, allow that). UEFA seem to be more relaxed but I’m pretty sure there was some investigation when the Red Bull clubs played each other to ensure there would be no collusion / match fixing.

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UEFA ruled that the Red Bull clubs were not under common control so OK to both play in CL. They played each other in the Europa League in 2018.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40348340.amp
I know.. but it's bullshit, there is nothing to stop QSI setting up a similar structure.
 
You’ll always see arguments about states v businesses resident there v funds etc. City argue that they are not owned by the state, Newcastle the same, but there are those who think the ties are too close for comfort (eg although Newcastle is owned by the PIF, most people think MBS de facto controls it so it’s equivalent to state ownership).
The prohibition on owning two clubs, I think, is a Premiership rule, albeit one that might be mirrored in other national leagues, hence Red Bill can own two clubs in different leagues (also City with investments across the globe, including Europe).
It all comes down to sporting integrity - the Premier League won’t accept any half measures (hence also loan players can’t play against their parent clubs, but Spain, for example, allow that). UEFA seem to be more relaxed but I’m pretty sure there was some investigation when the Red Bull clubs played each other to ensure there would be no collusion / match fixing.

EDIT
UEFA ruled that the Red Bull clubs were not under common control so OK to both play in CL. They played each other in the Europa League in 2018.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40348340.amp
Top man, thanks.
 
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According to the Daily Mail, Liverpool is in talks with Qatar Investment Authority over a potential investment in the club. It’s claimed that QIA would be interested in a complete or partial takeover.

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Beyond members of the Royal Families in the ME and the inner core with in FSG, no one knows any better.
 
[article]Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group are now open to “selling a minority stake" in the club.

The Independent journalist Miguel Delaney has reported as much in his Reading the Game newsletter.

The alteration in strategic approach is claimed to be driven by the realisation that the market is currently not as open as first believed, when Chelsea were sold to Todd Boehly last Summer.

In his newsletter, Delaney said: “Liverpool's Fenway Sports Group are now looking at selling a minority stake as much as an outright sale, and the general belief among football industry insiders is that is down to a shift in the market.

“While the price Chelsea went for seemed to suggest it was open season, there is now a bit of trepidation.


“Liverpool have not had that much interest. While the Glazers want to sell United for around €6bn, meanwhile, Jim Ratcliffe's advisors value it at €4bn."[/article]
 
I thought they have said from the get go that selling a minority stake was a valid option. What "news" is this from Miguel?
 
[article]Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group are now open to “selling a minority stake" in the club.

The Independent journalist Miguel Delaney has reported as much in his Reading the Game newsletter.

The alteration in strategic approach is claimed to be driven by the realisation that the market is currently not as open as first believed, when Chelsea were sold to Todd Boehly last Summer.

In his newsletter, Delaney said: “Liverpool's Fenway Sports Group are now looking at selling a minority stake as much as an outright sale, and the general belief among football industry insiders is that is down to a shift in the market.

“While the price Chelsea went for seemed to suggest it was open season, there is now a bit of trepidation.

“Liverpool have not had that much interest. While the Glazers want to sell United for around €6bn, meanwhile, Jim Ratcliffe's advisors value it at €4bn."
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I mean Utd was always likely to be valued at less... Not because they haven't got the fan base, thats clearly bigger than ours. But the investment needed to bring the club in line with the rest would be about €1bn+ (Stadium upgrades, Training facilities etc etc).

Chelsea went for a London premium, rightly or wrongly.

When all is said and done, I'd expect Utd to go for similar to Chelsea if it's a full sale and us to be in the tier below.
 
I mean Utd was always likely to be valued at less... Not because they haven't got the fan base, thats clearly bigger than ours. But the investment needed to bring the club in line with the rest would be about €1bn+ (Stadium upgrades, Training facilities etc etc).

Chelsea went for a London premium, rightly or wrongly.

When all is said and done, I'd expect Utd to go for similar to Chelsea if it's a full sale and us to be in the tier below.

I posted an interview with James Pearce whom I confuse with Paul Joyce in the transfer thread. In that interview however long it was, he reveals nothing or actually knows nothing.
Liverpool under FSG are doing whatever they're doing and have stopped any leaks. The only person who might give any progress of a deal would be that member of the Bahrain Royal Family if he managed to speak to another Prince from the Al-Thani family
 
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Liverpool are in discussions with officials representing the Qatar Investment Authority (QIA) over a potential takeover according to a report.
In November, the Fenway Sports Group (FSG) employed the services of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to put together a sales presentation to encourage fresh investment to the club.

Despite their insistence that they remain fully committed to Liverpool, it has been reported that FSG would be open to a full takeover or minority investment.
Last week, rumours started to circulate on social media in respect of interest from Qatar but were eventually played down in some quarters.
A new report has emerged however from Alex Miller suggesting that the Anfield hierarchy are in talks with officials from QIA regarding a takeover.
The sports finance journalist claims in The Mail that the sovereign wealth fund of Qatar are interested in a full takeover or acquiring a majority shareholding but will walk away if an agreement cannot be found.
On the pitch, Liverpool were disappointing again in their 0-0 draw with Chelsea in the Premier League on Saturday and appear desperate for reinforcements if they are going to restore their position at top of the game.
Reds fans will be desperate therefore to see fresh investment in the club to enable manager Jurgen Klopp to oversee the rebuild his squad needs.
As to whether the reports of talks with QIA lead to anything remains to be seen but it seems to be a story that is not going away.


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Rehashed copy from elsewhere, one or two statements of the bleedin' obvious and, to top it all off, clumsy English that wouldn't pass GCSE. Classic Internet stuff.
 
QIA are in talks with Spurs per the Athletic and we aren't at the table, it'd be unlike them to post that unless it was advanced.
 
So apparently Ambani is the richest fella in Asia now, after Adani has lost more than 100B recently, due to corruption allegations.

Ambani will probably follow suit too, as they are all cut from the same stained cloth.
 


[article]US investment firm RedBird Capital Partners are considering upping their stake in Liverpool's owners.

It is understood preliminary talks between RedBird and Liverpool owners FSG have taken place.


The group paid £533million for an 11 per cent stake in FSG in 2021 - giving them an indirect stake in the Anfield club.

RedBird are now actively exploring whether to increase their investment in a move that could earn FSG £1billion and allow them to retain ownership of Liverpool.

A source close to the firm said: 'There is a growing feeling that FSG are not interested in selling Liverpool, and are increasingly drawn to the idea of selling another minority stakeholding. A further 20% sale of FSG could generate £1billion.'

RedBird have have distanced themselves from owning the club outright, however it is understood they may be receptive to increasing their stake with John Henry's company, having bought AC Milan and a majority shareholding in Toulouse.

FSG have also held preliminary talks with other interested parties including the Qatar Investment Authority.

It is understood QIA would prefer to buy a controlling stake in Liverpool, while FSG have signalled their preference for the sale of a minority share initially.

Liverpool fan group Spirit of Shankly and Manchester United Supporters Trust joined forces this week to call for the forthcoming Government White Paper on Football to strengthen the rules around who can own and run football clubs in England.

In a joint statement, they said: 'We welcome the plans for an Independent Regulator tasked with developing stronger rules around football club ownership, but there is a danger it will come too late for the country's two biggest and most successful clubs.'
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[article]US investment firm RedBird Capital Partners are considering upping their stake in Liverpool's owners.

It is understood preliminary talks between RedBird and Liverpool owners FSG have taken place.

The group paid £533million for an 11 per cent stake in FSG in 2021
- giving them an indirect stake in the Anfield club.

RedBird are now actively exploring whether to increase their investment in a move that could earn FSG £1billion and allow them to retain ownership of Liverpool.

A source close to the firm said: 'There is a growing feeling that FSG are not interested in selling Liverpool, and are increasingly drawn to the idea of selling another minority stakeholding. A further 20% sale of FSG could generate £1billion.'

RedBird have have distanced themselves from owning the club outright, however it is understood they may be receptive to increasing their stake with John Henry's company, having bought AC Milan and a majority shareholding in Toulouse.

FSG have also held preliminary talks with other interested parties including the Qatar Investment Authority.

It is understood QIA would prefer to buy a controlling stake in Liverpool, while FSG have signalled their preference for the sale of a minority share initially.

Liverpool fan group Spirit of Shankly and Manchester United Supporters Trust joined forces this week to call for the forthcoming Government White Paper on Football to strengthen the rules around who can own and run football clubs in England.

In a joint statement, they said: 'We welcome the plans for an Independent Regulator tasked with developing stronger rules around football club ownership, but there is a danger it will come too late for the country's two biggest and most successful clubs.'
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Absolute wankers, I wish they would just piss off now, you had it right, and then conpletely fucked it up, just fuck off and sell to those who have actual ambitions for this club. This is so fucked up its unreal, they keep giving us this next summer narrative while we are falling apart on the pitch.
 


[article]US investment firm RedBird Capital Partners are considering upping their stake in Liverpool's owners.

It is understood preliminary talks between RedBird and Liverpool owners FSG have taken place.

The group paid £533million for an 11 per cent stake in FSG in 2021
- giving them an indirect stake in the Anfield club.

RedBird are now actively exploring whether to increase their investment in a move that could earn FSG £1billion and allow them to retain ownership of Liverpool.

A source close to the firm said: 'There is a growing feeling that FSG are not interested in selling Liverpool, and are increasingly drawn to the idea of selling another minority stakeholding. A further 20% sale of FSG could generate £1billion.'

RedBird have have distanced themselves from owning the club outright, however it is understood they may be receptive to increasing their stake with John Henry's company, having bought AC Milan and a majority shareholding in Toulouse.

FSG have also held preliminary talks with other interested parties including the Qatar Investment Authority.

It is understood QIA would prefer to buy a controlling stake in Liverpool, while FSG have signalled their preference for the sale of a minority share initially.

Liverpool fan group Spirit of Shankly and Manchester United Supporters Trust joined forces this week to call for the forthcoming Government White Paper on Football to strengthen the rules around who can own and run football clubs in England.

In a joint statement, they said: 'We welcome the plans for an Independent Regulator tasked with developing stronger rules around football club ownership, but there is a danger it will come too late for the country's two biggest and most successful clubs.'
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While I have complained about FSG, I don't think I want any random investor over FSG. Having said that, I doubt the RedBird's investment will help us. Most likely that money will go into purchasing a NFL team or an NBA team.
 


[article]US investment firm RedBird Capital Partners are considering upping their stake in Liverpool's owners.

It is understood preliminary talks between RedBird and Liverpool owners FSG have taken place.

The group paid £533million for an 11 per cent stake in FSG in 2021
- giving them an indirect stake in the Anfield club.

RedBird are now actively exploring whether to increase their investment in a move that could earn FSG £1billion and allow them to retain ownership of Liverpool.

A source close to the firm said: 'There is a growing feeling that FSG are not interested in selling Liverpool, and are increasingly drawn to the idea of selling another minority stakeholding. A further 20% sale of FSG could generate £1billion.'

RedBird have have distanced themselves from owning the club outright, however it is understood they may be receptive to increasing their stake with John Henry's company, having bought AC Milan and a majority shareholding in Toulouse.

FSG have also held preliminary talks with other interested parties including the Qatar Investment Authority.

It is understood QIA would prefer to buy a controlling stake in Liverpool, while FSG have signalled their preference for the sale of a minority share initially.

Liverpool fan group Spirit of Shankly and Manchester United Supporters Trust joined forces this week to call for the forthcoming Government White Paper on Football to strengthen the rules around who can own and run football clubs in England.

In a joint statement, they said: 'We welcome the plans for an Independent Regulator tasked with developing stronger rules around football club ownership, but there is a danger it will come too late for the country's two biggest and most successful clubs.'
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I don't think anyone's made any offers purely because they're doing due diligence and finding out what the club is worth.

or there are no offers as nobody wants to buy us and our ageing squad and it’s lack of European football.

unless….. Some knight in shining armour has been waiting to snap us up once we fell out of the champs league places so they can grab us at a discount.
 


[article]US investment firm RedBird Capital Partners are considering upping their stake in Liverpool's owners.

It is understood preliminary talks between RedBird and Liverpool owners FSG have taken place.

The group paid £533million for an 11 per cent stake in FSG in 2021
- giving them an indirect stake in the Anfield club.

RedBird are now actively exploring whether to increase their investment in a move that could earn FSG £1billion and allow them to retain ownership of Liverpool.

A source close to the firm said: 'There is a growing feeling that FSG are not interested in selling Liverpool, and are increasingly drawn to the idea of selling another minority stakeholding. A further 20% sale of FSG could generate £1billion.'

RedBird have have distanced themselves from owning the club outright, however it is understood they may be receptive to increasing their stake with John Henry's company, having bought AC Milan and a majority shareholding in Toulouse.

FSG have also held preliminary talks with other interested parties including the Qatar Investment Authority.

It is understood QIA would prefer to buy a controlling stake in Liverpool, while FSG have signalled their preference for the sale of a minority share initially.

Liverpool fan group Spirit of Shankly and Manchester United Supporters Trust joined forces this week to call for the forthcoming Government White Paper on Football to strengthen the rules around who can own and run football clubs in England.

In a joint statement, they said: 'We welcome the plans for an Independent Regulator tasked with developing stronger rules around football club ownership, but there is a danger it will come too late for the country's two biggest and most successful clubs.'
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Things not rosy for RedBird at AC Milan either

RedBird must give Maldini and Massara more to keep Milan’s project going
[article]You cannot point to a single successful summer signing Maldini and Massara made, but the frugal investment strategy on behalf of Gerry Cardinale and RedBird off the back of a league title could not be more disappointing if you are a fan.

Amidst a horrific skid to start the new year, the winter market presented a real opportunity for RedBird to flex a bit of financial muscle and help strengthen a squad that is genuinely lacking in multiple phases.


The recent goalkeeping displays of Ciprian Tatarusanu meant a steady backup for top-choice option Mike Maignan was considered the bare minimum, followed by a winger and a central midfielder. As we saw, management did virtually nothing to bolster the roster.

Devis Vázquez, a 24-year-old keeper from Colombia, was the lone player to walk through the doors of Milanello this past month; a highly underwhelming purchase if you consider the numerous talks held for Atalanta’s Marco Sportiello who would have been an ideal candidate for the job.
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