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The bit I wonder about is, we've taken the moral high ground with this for so long, rightly so in my opinion. That we're different, we're working class, we're socialist, to be LFC is different.
How's it going to work when we're the same as Man City, our money comes from oppression, it's not about skill anymore, its' about spend. And on the back of what?
Are we comfortable with that just to compete? To be honest, I'm not.
 
LarryHagman said:
The bit I wonder about is, we've taken the moral high ground with this for so long, rightly so in my opinion. That we're different, we're working class, we're socialist, to be LFC is different.
How's it going to work when we're the same as Man City, our money comes from oppression, it's not about skill anymore, its' about spend. And on the back of what?
Are we comfortable with that just to compete? To be honest, I'm not.
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It's by no means clear that we'll be bought by one of those types of entities. We might just be bought by richer, skeezier American capitalists.
 
darkstarexodus said:
It's by no means clear that we'll be bought by one of those types of entities. We might just be bought by richer, skeezier American capitalists.
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Maybe. I just wonder how, if the worst happens, we'll react as fans and how Klopp will react, seeing as he's so against it when it's other teams.
 
LarryHagman said:
The bit I wonder about is, we've taken the moral high ground with this for so long, rightly so in my opinion. That we're different, we're working class, we're socialist, to be LFC is different.
How's it going to work when we're the same as Man City, our money comes from oppression, it's not about skill anymore, its' about spend. And on the back of what?
Are we comfortable with that just to compete? To be honest, I'm not.
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There are however the obvious issues with this stance in 2023.
We are no longer in the 1960s to 2,000 and you have to wonder how many of the global LFC fanbase even care? If it matters to half of the UK fan base then that's maybe 1/2 million tops. Of the global fan base of ca. 600m maybe another 1/2m if you're very lucky. That's less than 0.2% of the fan base.

Owners of the ilk you are referring to won't care about losing a few when the stadium is still packed out for every game and those fans won't care where the money comes from if we're buying top players and winning the PL/CL.
The owners won't care if there are a few fan groups of the kind that complained about the Glazers. Comes with the territory.
All they'll care about is growing the core value of the club via marketing & media contracts.

This is where we are at. This is where top level football is at.
 
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BTW as an addendum to the above I don't believe exclusion and isolation works.
If you want to change mentality then you need to engage. How that applies to football I've no idea - that's for the politicians and governing bodies to work out and for us to hope it's not via corruption.
 
Liverpool enter talks with Saudi Arabian and Qatari consortiums over a potential £3BILLION takeover as Fenway Sports Group set the wheels in motion for a sale at Anfield

[article]Liverpool have held discussions with two Middle East-based consortiums over a £3billion takeover.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that representatives of consortiums from Saudi Arabia and Qatar have expressed an interest in buying the club.

Several sources report that consortium officials have approached Fenway Sports Group director Mike Gordon - the man responsible for the sale of Liverpool - to register their interest.

It is understood both groups are private companies rather than state-owned.

However both consortiums are thought to have close links with their country’s ruling families.[/article]
 
King Binny said:
Liverpool enter talks with Saudi Arabian and Qatari consortiums over a potential £3BILLION takeover as Fenway Sports Group set the wheels in motion for a sale at Anfield

[article]Liverpool have held discussions with two Middle East-based consortiums over a £3billion takeover.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that representatives of consortiums from Saudi Arabia and Qatar have expressed an interest in buying the club.

Several sources report that consortium officials have approached Fenway Sports Group director Mike Gordon - the man responsible for the sale of Liverpool - to register their interest.

It is understood both groups are private companies rather than state-owned.

However both consortiums are thought to have close links with their country’s ruling families.[/article]
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Show me the money
 
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King Binny said:
Liverpool enter talks with Saudi Arabian and Qatari consortiums over a potential £3BILLION takeover as Fenway Sports Group set the wheels in motion for a sale at Anfield

[article]Liverpool have held discussions with two Middle East-based consortiums over a £3billion takeover.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that representatives of consortiums from Saudi Arabia and Qatar have expressed an interest in buying the club.

Several sources report that consortium officials have approached Fenway Sports Group director Mike Gordon - the man responsible for the sale of Liverpool - to register their interest.

It is understood both groups are private companies rather than state-owned.

However both consortiums are thought to have close links with their country’s ruling families.[/article]
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Here's the MoS link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...-consortiums-potential-3BILLION-takeover.html
 
King Binny said:
Liverpool enter talks with Saudi Arabian and Qatari consortiums over a potential £3BILLION takeover as Fenway Sports Group set the wheels in motion for a sale at Anfield

[article]Liverpool have held discussions with two Middle East-based consortiums over a £3billion takeover.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that representatives of consortiums from Saudi Arabia and Qatar have expressed an interest in buying the club.

Several sources report that consortium officials have approached Fenway Sports Group director Mike Gordon - the man responsible for the sale of Liverpool - to register their interest.

It is understood both groups are private companies rather than state-owned.

However both consortiums are thought to have close links with their country’s ruling families.[/article]
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Well, the majority have clamoured for more money for transfers. We might just end up having it.

That said, the source is the Daily Manc and it tends to make up stories.
 
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I’m desperately hoping Klopp will realise we may need him a few more years more than he planned with new owners coming in and a potential rebuild on the way. Nice silver lining if so.
 
If FSG do end up selling, Klopp may not be here for long afterwards. He wanted reassurance that they would stick around before he agreed his contract extension.
 
Judge Jules said:
If FSG do end up selling, Klopp may not be here for long afterwards. He wanted reassurance that they would stick around before he agreed his contract extension.
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I would think that his loyalties to players, club and city would come before the new owners if they agree to continue with the management as it is now - or even improve it.
 
I'm not saying he'd definitely go, but I do think it would be in the balance. He'd be wondering how close to the existing model any new management would be willing to stay, plus he'll have been around for a long time by then and he - or they, or both - might want a new start. Significant new investment would defo help though!
 
I can only see Klopp leaving if we are bought by the same type of owners that he has been vocal about being not good for football in general.
Other than that I can see him staying on for the rest of his contract.
 
King Binny said:
Liverpool enter talks with Saudi Arabian and Qatari consortiums over a potential £3BILLION takeover as Fenway Sports Group set the wheels in motion for a sale at Anfield

[article]Liverpool have held discussions with two Middle East-based consortiums over a £3billion takeover.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that representatives of consortiums from Saudi Arabia and Qatar have expressed an interest in buying the club.


It is understood both groups are private companies rather than state-owned.

However both consortiums are thought to have close links with their country’s ruling families.[/article]
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YUCK!


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I can’t see Klopp doing one if we have loaded owners. He seems like the kinda dude that would stick around to ensure the club is run as well as possible with whatever influence he may still retain under new owners. The odd player may come and go, but I can’t see the vast majority of our fan base being anything other than gutted should Klopp go. I’m sure the new owners would be wise enough to see that.

As for people no longer supporting the club if loaded but slightly dubious owners come in, as said above, that’s going to be a small minority. And the majority of that minority will soon come running back when the likes of Bellingham et al are signed up on big deals.

Footy fans are fickle.
 
Woland said:
I think he'd be in a difficult situation if we got bought by some backassward oil state. So would a lot of fans.
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After watching the Fifa and WC 2022 documentary I’d probably be finished with football if we are bought by owners from Saudi Arabia or Qatar.
 
Frogfish said:
I would think that his loyalties to players, club and city would come before the new owners if they agree to continue with the management as it is now - or even improve it.
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It depends how stable, or unstable his manager/owner relationship then becomes. Pretty sure it won't take long for him to see where it's going, and whether it will be a good relationship and one he feels he can work under. If it's a very hands-off ownership that takes a back seat and they aren't on hand to give clarity over where we are going, then I guess if he gets frustrated with it he won't stick around for long. We've been there before. I don't even think Klopp will be buttered up by an initial reasonable outlay in the transfer market, if he feels other things aren't right. There will also be demands on Klopp to deliver again, it goes both ways, we could end up with idiots like what Chelsea have had, someone totally trigger happy.
 
Frankly people claiming "I'll give up football" if so and so take over is complete BS for 99.9% of fans, a platitude said to enhance social standing, whereas the reality is : like fuck will they give up supporting Liverpool. It's in our blood, we could as much give it up as sit down with a razor and bucket and drain it out of us. I don't know why people bother to even say it (cue enraged snowflakes who'll claim they are in the 0.1% - until reality strikes).
 
Frogfish said:
Frankly people claiming "I'll give up football" if so and so take over is complete BS for 99.9% of fans, a platitude said to enhance social standing, whereas the reality is : like fuck will they give up supporting Liverpool. It's in our blood, we could as much give it up as sit down with a razor and bucket and drain it out of us. I don't know why people bother to even say it (cue enraged snowflakes who'll claim they are in the 0.1% - until reality strikes).
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I was having a similar conversation with an old City fan - he pretty said the same - you don’t like it, but you take it because the clubs in your blood and it’s all that left.

Id imagine winning stuff and bragging rights for everything from “best pre-tax profits” to “biggest burger sponsorship deal” soothes the pain somewhat.
 
Sheffield Wednesday is owned by a Saudi Prince, they're not exactly awash with money.
So far all we know is that they've entered talks, nothing more. I just don't see the point of fretting about owners. FSG will still be the club stewards in Jan, and unless we strengthen MF, we will be watching Games involving teams from Moldova
 
Frogfish said:
Frankly people claiming "I'll give up football" if so and so take over is complete BS for 99.9% of fans, a platitude said to enhance social standing, whereas the reality is : like fuck will they give up supporting Liverpool. It's in our blood, we could as much give it up as sit down with a razor and bucket and drain it out of us. I don't know why people bother to even say it (cue enraged snowflakes who'll claim they are in the 0.1% - until reality strikes).
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We'd probably shed more fans (on the whole) by turning into midtable mediocrity.
 
Frogfish said:
Frankly people claiming "I'll give up football" if so and so take over is complete BS for 99.9% of fans, a platitude said to enhance social standing, whereas the reality is : like fuck will they give up supporting Liverpool. It's in our blood, we could as much give it up as sit down with a razor and bucket and drain it out of us. I don't know why people bother to even say it (cue enraged snowflakes who'll claim they are in the 0.1% - until reality strikes).
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Yes, I obviously made that statement to enhance my social standing. God I hope it worked and that it was elevated to the top.
Hopefully my new social standing can give me the benefits I've been missing on this site.
 
My_Blood_Bleeds_Red said:
You say that now...but when we line up next season with Jude, Mbappe and Enzo/Rice, you'll be re-activating your fantasy football account again.
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My Fantasy football account will always be live. Thats to much fun regardless of which team you support.
I'd still be a Liverpool fan but not as passionate or involved. Which is pretty much what the few City fans I know said after they were taken over.

*Enhancing social status further
 
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