Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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Re schools, I think there has been talk of no more than 15 pupils per classroom, while reception and early years teachers have rightfully pointed out that you just can't keep kids of that age apart.
As said, the government tried to normalise the collateral damage of dying NHS workers, by labelling them "heroes" and now they're doing the same with teachers.
The advice across the board is vague, which is pretty much what the whole "stay alert" campaign has been (how do you stay alert to an invisible threat?). Schools are sending out advice to parents that they themselves are applying to the governments ambiguous instructions. They don't know what they're doing but have at least said that they will assess and risk assess everything in order to only allow pupils back in a safe and minimal risk environment. That's all they can do, because they won't get any help or actual advice from the government, other than pointers based on what's gone on in other countries and a shrug off of responsibility. It's all on us, as always.
Our decision, at our cost and at risk to everyone, bar those Tory cunts.
As said, the government tried to normalise the collateral damage of dying NHS workers, by labelling them "heroes" and now they're doing the same with teachers.
The advice across the board is vague, which is pretty much what the whole "stay alert" campaign has been (how do you stay alert to an invisible threat?). Schools are sending out advice to parents that they themselves are applying to the governments ambiguous instructions. They don't know what they're doing but have at least said that they will assess and risk assess everything in order to only allow pupils back in a safe and minimal risk environment. That's all they can do, because they won't get any help or actual advice from the government, other than pointers based on what's gone on in other countries and a shrug off of responsibility. It's all on us, as always.
Our decision, at our cost and at risk to everyone, bar those Tory cunts.
We don't do conditional probability around these here parts. The risk of dying in a tower fire is tiny, so of course you should go back in.
Pretty much what @Woland says
It's damage limitation measures now..
And the Tories are more interested in bowing down to the 1% elite than protecting the individuals of this country..
Ffs Liverpool and Wirral have only just entered the peak of this virus 4 or 5 days ago, yet we are talking about sending our kids back to school..
Schools are not prepared at all, across the whole of this country.. Its utter fucking madness...
It's clear to me who is driving this.
Look at it again over the summer with September in mind to give the schools all the time in the world to prepare for this..
Imho. Remote learning should be priorty whilst then making schools safe and available for keyworkers children and vulnerable children, then gradual implementation of children moving forward..
Everyone has seem to forgot the fact that a kids may not fall ill, yes. But they can carry this disease, which then puts teachers and family of other children and teachers at risk.. Particularly those with underlying health conditions..
Apparently...
The Government Scientific Advisory Group haven't met since 14th April, who advised the Goverment last week that it was safe to reopen schools?
I can answer that.. the 1%. Elite
It's damage limitation measures now..
And the Tories are more interested in bowing down to the 1% elite than protecting the individuals of this country..
Ffs Liverpool and Wirral have only just entered the peak of this virus 4 or 5 days ago, yet we are talking about sending our kids back to school..
Schools are not prepared at all, across the whole of this country.. Its utter fucking madness...
It's clear to me who is driving this.
Look at it again over the summer with September in mind to give the schools all the time in the world to prepare for this..
Imho. Remote learning should be priorty whilst then making schools safe and available for keyworkers children and vulnerable children, then gradual implementation of children moving forward..
Everyone has seem to forgot the fact that a kids may not fall ill, yes. But they can carry this disease, which then puts teachers and family of other children and teachers at risk.. Particularly those with underlying health conditions..
Apparently...
The Government Scientific Advisory Group haven't met since 14th April, who advised the Goverment last week that it was safe to reopen schools?
I can answer that.. the 1%. Elite
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Didn't we have about 900 deaths a day at one point and not including care home deaths in that?
In terms of cases, percentage infected, and deaths, you are definitely past this peak.
Cases will hold at a plateau for a long period of time, and bump in places though. The question is, past reopening, will you have the capacity to effectively mobilize to quickly detect test and contact trace the thousands of new cases a day you will still have. (Hint: no)
So? In a month the death rate has halved, because we had a partial lockdown. It took a couple of weeks to go from zero to thousand, and it's taken a month to go from a thousand to half that. We're a case study in how to completely fuck this up.
Open the schools. Lick the shelves in Tesco. Whatever.
Open the schools. Lick the shelves in Tesco. Whatever.
Fuck am I sending my kids back any time soon. It’s safer for me to send them to their grandparents than send them in. Yet opening up schools is the instruction. I’ll be sending them to the in laws when I can and actually get a full days work done from home.
The government needs to get the infection rates down to manageable level then implement Testing, Track and Trace..
As I speak Due to the Governments all over the place advice..
Royden Park, Thurstaton, West Kirby and New Brighton on the Wirral are heaving..
It's utter utter madness, given as I said earlier, Wirral and Liverpool entered peak around 4 to 6 days ago
As I speak Due to the Governments all over the place advice..
Royden Park, Thurstaton, West Kirby and New Brighton on the Wirral are heaving..
It's utter utter madness, given as I said earlier, Wirral and Liverpool entered peak around 4 to 6 days ago
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Kids do fall ill. Just not enough for the government to give a shit about.
Just to add my next door neighbour who works in Arrowe Park, his department (any many others) have been banned from taking any annual leave in 2 weeks time, and anybody b who did have it booked, is been cancelled.. starting from June.
Tells you all you need to know..
Tells you all you need to know..
When’s Eton opening its doors?
I know that, they are also a massive carriers of all bugs n shit..
It all incredibly dillusional the bollox that's coming out of higher level government right now.
Not sure if reptiles can get it
Remember when Spain was completely fucked, but then we massively overtook it? Well five times less people died there than here today and they're not opening their schools until autumn at least.
By all means lick doorknobs for Boris if you want. I'm not into it personally
By all means lick doorknobs for Boris if you want. I'm not into it personally
A grand total of 6 parents said they'd send their kids in if our kids primary school reopened (not including the few that go already as they're kids of key workers).
Looks like they'll stay closed & point to that as the reason. Can't imagine it'd be much different anywhere else in the country, but then I'm constantly amazed at the sheer stupidity of the general public & their willingness to believe what the government tell them, so who the fuck knows.
Looks like they'll stay closed & point to that as the reason. Can't imagine it'd be much different anywhere else in the country, but then I'm constantly amazed at the sheer stupidity of the general public & their willingness to believe what the government tell them, so who the fuck knows.
I do actually think you are right that schools are not prepared. Just as shops (the other part of the easing proposal) are not prepared. No guidance yet on that phasing. My wife runs a shop and is still in the dark over it.
A couple of areas where we disagree though. Are you sure that SAGE hasn't met? Absolutely certain? They are meant to meet every Tuesday and Thursday. It could be the details haven't been published.
Who is this 1% elite exactly that benefits from allowing primary schools to open for three year groups? Wouldn't a 1% elite also be able to benefit from remote learning (by having an interest in any technologies needed for that)?
Schools have always been open for kids of key workers and kids from vulnerable families. I don't recall much fuss from that so presumably they were always safe in those circumstances?
I have already said in my opinion that it is a valid question as to whether it is necessary to open schools right now. However, it is not the case of opening ALL age groups is it? It's just a handful?
Oh, and Eton is a secondary school.
That's because the 2 weeks quarantine for arrivals is due to kick in again.
The plan is to open for reception, Y1 & Y6, then have all primary school kids in by mid June at the latest.
It's entirely planned to get parents back to work, the 'benefit' of four weeks in school in ridiculous conditions will be minimal at best (again, this is ignoring the fact you can't fit all the kids into school at once in the majority of schools as they don't have enough space to do so).
It's entirely planned to get parents back to work, the 'benefit' of four weeks in school in ridiculous conditions will be minimal at best (again, this is ignoring the fact you can't fit all the kids into school at once in the majority of schools as they don't have enough space to do so).
I've seen the plans for the company I work for, floor plans for when they reopen. Trust me. It's going to look very weird and draconian when they reopen.
No tables, no chairs, 2m high barriers, between staff and customers. You've probably started to see the barriers at local supermarkets. One way system, uber eats couriers have to stand on 'spots' outside..
Perspex manufacturers are going to be very busy.
Same for McDonalds and other fast food outlets. The new normal is going to look weird.
Government pushing for no face masks for staff, probably a language thing though, we've gone back with the wording face coverings.
I read about it.. however no updates since 14th April
https://www.gov.uk/government/group...mergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response
Elite.. probably the want their poorly paid servants back into work to stop hemorrhage the billions they are currently losing in the wake of this pandemic I guess..
Except their servants require free childcare..
Govt are wanting all primary schools kids back in by mid June.. it is just madness..
Oh and Eton is for Lizards, last I heard lizards cant get CV19.. so they shouldn't be closed till September anyway [emoji23]
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Nursery too..they conveniently miss that bit off. But look at the gov website. Nursery is clearly listed.
I think they'll get the 15 per class limit. Because more than 50% of parents will say fuck that.. and wait until September.
Based on parents round here it'll be more 95% plus.
Like I said, most of this country seems to be full of bootlickers though, so fuck knows.
The wife is in the obligatory whatsapp for my kids.
And with the exception of the kids of key workers. Only 2 other parents were 'vocal' in sending their kids back.
Every other parent it was 'let's wait until September'.
The proximity of the summer holidays is the main point for me. The upheaval, the logistics, everything, for a few weeks of school just aren't worth it.
Take these extra weeks, add in the holidays & schools have a decent amount of time to work out how to school whilst maintaining social distancing, & what budgets they need to put equipment in to do so.
As well as consulting with child psychologists about how to manage it (for example, play time can't be a thing, but neither can sitting kids in a class for 6 hours, dealing with the emotional side of kids not being able to hug & go near the friends, how teachers deal with young children having tantrums, or reception kids wetting themselves, or kids being ill etc).
Then get it all in place & contact the parents & send videos to the kids, using the key workers in the school to show them how to navigate it & what they will be doing to help prepare them in advance.
Obv in the meantime (hopefully) the r rate should have dropped further & the risk is less too.
Its not fucking rocket science.
Take these extra weeks, add in the holidays & schools have a decent amount of time to work out how to school whilst maintaining social distancing, & what budgets they need to put equipment in to do so.
As well as consulting with child psychologists about how to manage it (for example, play time can't be a thing, but neither can sitting kids in a class for 6 hours, dealing with the emotional side of kids not being able to hug & go near the friends, how teachers deal with young children having tantrums, or reception kids wetting themselves, or kids being ill etc).
Then get it all in place & contact the parents & send videos to the kids, using the key workers in the school to show them how to navigate it & what they will be doing to help prepare them in advance.
Obv in the meantime (hopefully) the r rate should have dropped further & the risk is less too.
Its not fucking rocket science.
Also, for me & Bex WFH, it's actually more of a PITA taking the kids to school & picking them up (esp as presumably it'll take an age to pick them up cos of social distancing), compared to half an hour printing their work & prepping it at the start of the day, maybe ten mins an hour helping them, & uploading their work. The latter is manageable, the former could easily be an hour dropping them off & another hour picking them up.