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he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
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he is also playing in a team all over the fucking place.

I think only truly special players can come into a team and singlehandidly improve that team despite being surrounded by utter mediocrity. look at what sami did for our defense when he arrived, that was nothing short of miraculous. way too much to ask carroll to have that sort of effect on the attack, that will take several players not just one.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
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Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
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Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


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people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
 
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[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


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people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
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Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310057#msg1310057 date=1301914498]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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Says the man who said Meireles wasn't good enough
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44801.msg1310060#msg1310060 date=1301914605]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310057#msg1310057 date=1301914498]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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Says the man who said Meireles wasn't good enough
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He's not. A little purple batch doesnt make him a good player. Average player and we need better.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44801.msg1310060#msg1310060 date=1301914605]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310057#msg1310057 date=1301914498]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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Says the man who said Meireles wasn't good enough
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Oh yeh and that Kenny as manager could be worse than Roy. Wrong. On both accounts.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310065#msg1310065 date=1301914687]

He's not. A little purple batch doesnt make him a good player. Average player and we need better.
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Rubbish. Whereas he's not well suited to playing out wide he's been one of our better players this year
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44801.msg1310054#msg1310054 date=1301914359]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


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people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
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Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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not an excuse an obsevation.

carroll is resonably good with the ball at this feet and will win the majority of headers in the box, yet;

a) we hoof the ball up to him and expect him to control it
b) we don't cross to him in the box

if carroll fails in a liverpool shirt then his team mates are going to have to shoulder some of the blame for that. carroll was filling his boots at newcastles and the main reason for that is newcastle played to his strengths. you could are Torres is suffering so the same reason (we played to his strengths and chelsea do not).
 
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[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


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people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
[/quote]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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I can't believe we banned Brendan and Sven still keeps at it, smearing his shit on the walls of SCM like a deranged lunatic.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


[/quote]I dont really know why im bothering, buuuuut.....
He's missed three months of the season and has still got 11 league goals, which is more than Torres, Drogba, Crouch, Defoe, Rooney, Van persie etc
He's the 4th highest scorer in the league.
People are suggesting that injury, rehabitation and our lack of width are issues.
You are against those, hes just shit to you....
deary me.

Ps-Kewell was amazing when he first played for us, so was diouf.
 
[quote author=cobrastatus link=topic=44801.msg1310073#msg1310073 date=1301914881]

I can't believe we banned Brendan and Sven still keeps at it, smearing his shit on the walls on SCM.
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He pops in about once or twice a month, deposits his unbalanced gloomy misery arse view then pops out again.
 
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44801.msg1310060#msg1310060 date=1301914605]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310057#msg1310057 date=1301914498]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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Says the man who said Meireles wasn't good enough
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Oh yeh and that Kenny as manager could be worse than Roy. Wrong. On both accounts.
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I know you are a bit slow but the poster asked is there a more depressing thought than Kenny being as bad coach as Roy. I answered that more depressing though than that is that he is worse than Roy.
 
Which you were wrong about. And insult anyone else on the forum and you're banned. I trust you're not too 'slow' to understand that ?
 
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[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310065#msg1310065 date=1301914687]

He's not. A little purple batch doesnt make him a good player. Average player and we need better.
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Rubbish. Whereas he's not well suited to playing out wide he's been one of our better players this year
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I think meireles will move down the pecking order is we do indeed get quality wide players because a central midfield of meireles and gerrard just isn't going to happen.
 
Meireles is a decent player. Played out of position a lot. He has a big part to play in the team, whether down the pecking order or not
 
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[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


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people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
[/quote]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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He's 'got his chance'?

Has he even played 5 games for Liverpool yet?
 
Sven usually pops up after a defeat

can't moan when you're winning can you?
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44801.msg1310054#msg1310054 date=1301914359]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


[/quote]

people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
[/quote]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
[/quote]

He's 'got his chance'?

Has he even played 5 games for Liverpool yet?
[/quote]Dude STOP making excuses, he has already started two games!! Thats 180 minutes minimum and he hasnt scored. Failure!! Get rid!!
 
I knew Sven only came out of the woodwork when we got beat, but he must be on a wind up here, surely?
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44801.msg1310137#msg1310137 date=1301920705]
Sven in moaning cunt shocker. Has he mentioned Riise yet?

Hapless bellend.
[/quote]No need to sink to his level Mark.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310057#msg1310057 date=1301914498]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44801.msg1310054#msg1310054 date=1301914359]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=44801.msg1310052#msg1310052 date=1301914193]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44801.msg1310048#msg1310048 date=1301913508]
he is only 22 too. moving to a new city with a lot of expectation. hes gonna struggle initially
[/quote]

Luis Suarez is also young, moving to a new city and country with lot of expectations. He delivers and doesnt struggle like Carroll, because he actually can play. Good players will deliver right away. They do not need a fucking time to settle to play good football. Torres, Alonso, Reina, Hyypiä, Babbel, Mascher, Didi all played well since day one.

How many of these bellends whos people has been defending and making excuses for has actually improved? Kewell, Baros, Crouch, Dossena, Keane, Aquilani etc.


[/quote]

people tend to pass to suarez's feet rather than boot the ball 5 feet over his head and expect him to control it.
[/quote]

Another excuse for Carroll.

Good players do not need fans to make excuses for them because they play well. Carroll has got his chance, time to move on and sell him.
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Are you for real?

What kind of fans have we supporting us? It is time to move on our record signing who has played about 4 games for us?

Jesus dude.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44801.msg1310153#msg1310153 date=1301923280]
Sven is just trolling and trying to get a response. No point.
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It's pretty pathetic.
 
I felt sorry for Carroll, he's great in the air, so Carragher and the likes spent all game smashing straight long ball hoofs to his general direction and expecting him to do the business.

He didn't once get it to feet in the second half, and only the one time I can think of in the first, when he fired a good low ball across the edge of the area for Kuyt. The one time he managed to find it at his feet in the second half, he forced Carson in a superb save.

We're not going to get the best out of him playing that way, that much should be clear to even the most blinkered bint on this forum. Those calling for him to be moving must be taking the piss.
Either that or they haven't got a clue about football.

We can't get the most of him until we address the width problem, which has been a problem for as long as I can remember.
 
I like Carroll as one of his best attributes is his finishing. Just like I said Meireles' best attribute is his shot long before he started banging them in for us. However, I do fear that the presence of Carroll does make Carragher's lack of technique even more annoying and a bit of a problem. Hope that goes away when we address LB, DM and wingers but if it doesn't, Carroll's inclusion gives a reason to replace Carragher. Anyone else see what I'm saying... granted its still wait and see.
 
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