Wasn’t she some old cook or something?
Buvac the Brain - gone
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Was wondering that myself. To each their own.
Wow, try singing this to the Mighty Mouse Theme tune.
We just lost a game 4-2 without Buvac - I am really hoping that Buvac the "brain" was something that Klopp used just to keep a close friend nearby and so that he would feel important. i.e. he really was not actually the brains behind our play because if he was then I dread to think what part Klopp is ? - is Klopp just the cheerleader ?
Our defending has gone backwards since City away in the CL.
Does that coincide with his withdrawal from the team?
Does that coincide with his withdrawal from the team?
Buvacs to the wall
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1 goal was a freaky OG which was just Lovren being Lovren and it's simpler to accept that he has a mistake in him every few games, and the other was just the referee giving a cheap penalty to atone for Trent's handball.
Sub Klavan was supposed to keep things tight at the back during the West Brom game when Buvac was still around and conceded, just like we did last night. One game doesn't show anything.
Klopp needs to fuck off that idea of putting Klavan on late, it doesn't tighten things up, it disrupts us and causes less cohesion and invites pressure. It's been proven time and time again.
I'd rather he bring on another mid and drop Gini and hendo deeper.
Adding a CB seems to disrupt the flow
Yeah, I've said this too. If he wants to protect the lead, change the shape of the midfield three or if we have the personnel to, change it and put on someone who can sit infront of the back four and provide more of a shield. It just causes more confusion and nervous play.
I think the players just need more coaching and experience. If they stopped going into a shell in the last 10-15 minutes and actually became compact, maintained a higher line with less distance between attack and defence, we’d be stronger with 3 at the back. As it stands Klavan seems to act like the alarm bell for playing shit.
Klopp and players need to sort that out.
I've never understood the need to mess around with a defense late in a game, unless there's an alarming problem. TAA was at sixes and sevens for more of the game last night and it was ample time to either put Clyne on or more protection infront of TAA, instead we waited and waited, watched it becoming more of a problem and then addressed the problems we were having by adding fuel to the fire.
Agreed, we lose our balance and just sit deeper. Whilst in some senses it might seem logical, with the way we play it doesn't. It would suit our style more to bring on a player with a role of stopping crosses coming in rather than someone to try and make it harder for them to get on the end of them.
Yeah, I wish Buvac the Brain had been there when we fell to pieces in the Europa League Final, and when we lost a three-nil lead earlier in this tournament, and imploded multiple times in other games. Oh, hang on, he was there, wasn't he? I like the fact that Klopp has less of a tendency to preen than any other top manager, but for once his generosity was mistaken when he talked-up his assistants. We'll be getting this crap now all the time until Buvac comes back or we get another assistant.
Well either way, Buvac or not, we need to overcome this tendency to crumble. It's been there for years now under a succession of managers.
No one can take anything away from our success this season, we've been fantastic and the most entertaining side we've seen in years. We have to eradicate the stupidity in the team though, and that stems from players like Lovren and Klavan, those two or more culpable than most and have repeatedly let us down, despite occasional spells of good form from both.
You accused this team of being bottlers for years, we haven't quite shaken that trait off yet. We got a fair amount of luck against City and Roma, but we also obliterated them with brilliance too. Madrid won't be so forgiving.
Whether Buvac was there when we gave away daft leads or not, if our form dips after this departure, then people will rightly ask questions. If we carry on with this level of progression, then no one can have any complaints about him going either.
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Yes. Obviously it doesn't help that the squad is so injury-ridden at such a cruel time - ideally we'd be able to refresh the midfield late on rather than reach for the Klavan, but as you say it's crucial that we find a way to fight better in the latter stages. I hope we get a hell of a lot of luck in the final, because winning a trophy could spark so many exciting things about this team, but unless we do that anxiety is going to be there.
I think both teams are there for the taking.
I was screaming at Klopp to bring Clyne on and move Trent to RM for about 25 minutes before he made a change. The extra cb never works.
[article]Forget the jolly japes, the smile, the endorsements and manic Germanic attitude. Put aside the madcap goal-filled football on display at Anfield, when teams offer to go one-to-one. Jurgen Klopp is a killer. He’s a man who won’t let anything stand in his way and this does not always sit well with those around you.
Sir Alex Ferguson used to like to big up his assistants, then relish their inevitable collapse when they stepped out from under his wings. Being the shoulder, the brains, the base is fine, but being all things to all men, women and shareholders, this is a different animal. While Steve McLaren’s relative successes on his own two feet will be considered not bad in the future. There is always the chance of a Brian Kidd waiting to happen.
When Klopp was signing up at Anfield I penned a piece that came back into a bit of vogue with his assistant’s leave of absence. As soon as I saw him stepping aside, I contacted mutual friends in Germany and the Republika Srpska. I got two varying stories.
“He was forced out after he showed an interest in the Hamburg job, that’s the story I was told. I didn’t push it out as it didn’t make sense. Until I heard he’d gotten a guarantee of a 30 million transfer war-chest to bring them back up.”
– Current sports reporter in Hesse who played with Zeljko Buvac at Neukirchen.
“Honestly, he just wanted out and is gone on gardening leave.”
– Childhood friend and confidante from Prijedor who is now working with one of Sarajevo’s big retailers.
From a range of sources there was the usual hearsay – they fell out; he’s got a drink problem; they did him for bungs; he was caught gambling on games (non-Liverpool); he owes money and was removed from the club; he’s been offered this or that job and interviewed for it and Liverpool suspended him.
Then, yesterday, the newsdesks exploded. He was wanted by Sven Mislintat – Arsenal’s Head of Recruitment – to be manager there. But this was put more succinctly by the Times as Zeljko becoming part of the club’s new coaching structure.
Ex-Liverpool player Danny Murphy decried his lack of experience, meanwhile Rio Ferdinand predicts it really is only for personal problems. Of course, media needed to figure out if the man could be a contender for the post that Arsene Wenger is soon leaving.
Klopp loses his right hand man for the crucial part of the season, including the Champions League Final, but nobody knows for how long. And everybody needs to know now.
Nobody wants to accept that Buvac moving to Arsenal might not be the worst thing for a club which has fallen far below a standard set before economic doping took full control. Buvac did a more than adequate job with limited resources at Neukirchen, albeit down the German pro ranks, but it counts.
What happened at Mainz 05 matters far more than what has followed at either Borussia Dortmund or Liverpool. It was his groundwork, scouting and negotiating that lifted the club to its new heights. Klopp was the face, Buvac, as we’ve been reminded of this week, the brain.
Anyone who knows German football will know Mainz were considered ‘harmless’, but under these two men and their colleagues, it became an unwelcome visitor or away destination. Zeljko has earned a shot at a good club, especially a mid-ranking, former power like Arsenal. The only fear would be he’ll be more Gross than Wenger and hounded out without giving it a full makeover, as Klopp has been afforded the time at Liverpool.
According to sources, Zeljko Buvac was given permission by Liverpool FC to interview for at least two jobs, though he only interviewed for one.
The Hamburg post was a smokescreen. He would never walk into a dysfunctional club where there is so much potential but so little love. While Hamburg will most likely rebound next year, there is also a chance that they will be stuck for two or three years in the 2.Bundesliga.
The relationship between Klopp and Buvac has had its ups and downs over a 17-year term, but they remain close. While an ‘insider’ tried to claim irreconcilable differences, this is not the case. There is an annoyance over one point, though it has not forced the hand of Liverpool’s paymasters. Instead, it’s to do with ambition.
The other job he was considered for and interviewed for, is the upcoming vacancy with Eintracht Frankfurt. Current boss Niko Kovac will move to Bayern Munich in the summer and Zeljko is in the running to move to the club and is gone on gardening leave in the meantime until the picture is clearer. Fredi Bobic is a fan, so too is club president Peter Fischer. Buvac is highly respected in German football circles – just as much as Klopp – and the opportunity to take over at Eintracht suits all parties.
While the deal is far from done, there appears to be no way back to Liverpool for the Bosian-Serb. His friend Jurgen would not reject him if the opportunity arose for Buvac to return, however there are elements at the club who would not shed tears at his departure. As far as the club and Buvac is concerned, his ambition is to be a manager at different club next season.
This story has not yet run its course and it might just follow the River Main.[/article]
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Klopp said as much yesterday, we were playing too deep. It is easy for us to say it here but once the 2nd half starts and we go into our shell, it's hard to remind all the players to move up as a unit. At some point especially late in the game, changing one or two personnels ain't going to get us out of that shell as proven when Solanke came on. So he threw on Klavan to protect the shell we have made.
It's easy to say it did not work on hindsight but I doubt Klopp has many other cards available in the 80th min.
And i agree it can be coached but we just don't seem to have it now or have the legs for the execution.
I think Klopp's high-intensity pressing game does take it out of our players and we lose momentum in the second half. I think that explains how Roma got two late goals at Anfield.
Having Lallana as a bench option could be crucial in the Final if we are touchwood in a phase of needing to keep things tight. His pressing game is supreme and it doesn't matter how rusty his first touch or passing is if he is coming on to press and harrass.
No, because they've been loaned for the rest of the season they are not permitted to play for us again until after the season is over- this included the CL.
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