Bridge makes himself unavailabe

[Rosco]

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Don't you know Sky will be there to capture the 'historic' moment for us, in amazing High Definition obv.
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And why wouldn't they?
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Well if they just turned up, broadcast the football and gave opinion about the football that just took place, no worries. Their pre-match build up is all about what big stories could occur. No doubt they'll have whipped together some half arsed montage (in black and white) showing 'JT' & 'Bridgey' in an embrace after a match, first in Chelsea shirts, then in England shirts. The music will stop with a screech and the screen will rip in two. They may even colour their eyes in an angry red. Then it'll be back to hairy hands in the studio so he can smile smugly at us peasants.
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Ha ha ha, brilliant !
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One problem with that.


Keyes has shaved/waxed his hands.

 

[themn]

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Don't you know Sky will be there to capture the 'historic' moment for us, in amazing High Definition obv.
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And why wouldn't they?
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Well if they just turned up, broadcast the football and gave opinion about the football that just took place, no worries. Their pre-match build up is all about what big stories could occur. No doubt they'll have whipped together some half arsed montage (in black and white) showing 'JT' & 'Bridgey' in an embrace after a match, first in Chelsea shirts, then in England shirts. The music will stop with a screech and the screen will rip in two. They may even colour their eyes in an angry red. Then it'll be back to hairy hands in the studio so he can smile smugly at us peasants.
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Ha ha ha, brilliant !
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One problem with that.


Keyes has shaved/waxed his hands.
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Remember when you called me a "pedant *expletive forgotten*" ?

 

[Ryan]

Well Capello's come out and said "we still hope to have him in South Africa" so you can take it as fucking signed, sealed and delivered that he'd have been selected.

With that in mind, and the fact that Bridge deems the situation so bad that he won't meet up with Terry, never mind go to a World Cup with him, this is obviously a fucking issue for him. It's easy for a bunch of keyboard warriors to sit back and tell him to "man the fuck up", but clearly if you're going to give up the chance to go to probably your last ever World Cup, all the while knowing that your only competition for the left-back slot in Cole is crocked for the next 3 months, then I daresay Wayne's given this a bit of thought.

If Terry had any balls whatsoever, any fucking morals at all, he'd withdraw from the squad and let Bridge go. It'll never happen of course, because Terry's a great big fucking cunt obviously.

 

[refugee]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39052.msg1060369#msg1060369 date=1267138051]
Well Capello's come out and said "we still hope to have him in South Africa" so you can take it as fucking signed, sealed and delivered that he'd have been selected.

With that in mind, and the fact that Bridge deems the situation so bad that he won't meet up with Terry, never mind go to a World Cup with him, this is obviously a fucking issue for him. It's easy for a bunch of keyboard warriors to sit back and tell him to "man the fuck up", but clearly if you're going to give up the chance to go to probably your last ever World Cup, all the while knowing that your only competition for the left-back slot in Cole is crocked for the next 3 months, then I daresay Wayne's given this a bit of thought.

If Terry had any balls whatsoever, any fucking morals at all, he'd withdraw from the squad and let Bridge go. It'll never happen of course, because Terry's a great big fucking cunt obviously.
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Good post

 

[H]

What he ^^ said.

 

[themn]

I have to say I agree with what Ryan said.

 

[franklyfrank]

Top class post Ryan. Agree 100%

 

[Delinquent]

It's the World Cup, not a birthday party.

I wouldn't give up my place if I were John Terry. (Admittedly, I wouldn't be in his position in the first place, but still.) Wayne Bridge will regret this decision.

 

[Ryan]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39052.msg1060431#msg1060431 date=1267147935]
It's the World Cup, not a birthday party.

I wouldn't give up my place if I were John Terry. (Admittedly, I wouldn't be in his position in the first place, but still.) Wayne Bridge will regret this decision.
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He might regret not being there yeah, but I highly doubt he'll regret not being able to sit in the same dressing room as that fucker.

Richard Williams in the Guardian put it wonderfully: 'His dislike for Terry is greater than his love for the World Cup'.

 

[Delinquent]

That may be so but he's the one missing out, no one else. I wonder if he'll feel the same once the dust has settled.

I don't really care like, but I bet he will in a few years.

 

[Ryan]

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That may be so but he's the one missing out, no one else. I wonder if he'll feel the same once the dust has settled.

I don't really care like, but I bet he will in a few years.
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He's the one that's taken the moral highground here Del and actually acting like an adult, and he's being criticised. I don't understand that.

 

[Delinquent]

He could still go to the World Cup and be 'adult' about it. Dignified even.

I'm just a little surprised he's willing to let personal differences dictate the path of his international career. I think he's taking the easy option.

 

[Avmenon]

Agreed, it's ridiculous.

Your wife/gf whatever cheats on you and you punish yourself by ruling yourself out of the World Cup?

Granted, it wouldnt be easy to even be in the same room as that prick; but lots of professionals manage to get the job done even when they despise their own team-mates.

 

[darkstarexodus]

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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39052.msg1060442#msg1060442 date=1267148821]
That may be so but he's the one missing out, no one else. I wonder if he'll feel the same once the dust has settled.

I don't really care like, but I bet he will in a few years.
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He's the one that's taken the moral highground here Del and actually acting like an adult, and he's being criticised. I don't understand that.
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I think you're spot on in defending Bridge but it's rubbish to suggest Terry should withdraw from the squad. He is a massive, massive cunt but I don't think any player, let alone one who would do what Terry did to Bridge, would ever skip the World Cup by means of apology.

 

[Ryan]

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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39052.msg1060442#msg1060442 date=1267148821]
That may be so but he's the one missing out, no one else. I wonder if he'll feel the same once the dust has settled.

I don't really care like, but I bet he will in a few years.
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He's the one that's taken the moral highground here Del and actually acting like an adult, and he's being criticised. I don't understand that.
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I think you're spot on in defending Bridge but it's rubbish to suggest Terry should withdraw from the squad. He is a massive, massive cunt but I don't think any player, let alone one who would do what Terry did to Bridge, would ever skip the World Cup by means of apology.
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It's not "by means of apology" though is it?

They can't be togethor patently, thus Bridge has made the sacrifice. Why should he have to?

 

[darkstarexodus]

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That may be so but he's the one missing out, no one else. I wonder if he'll feel the same once the dust has settled.

I don't really care like, but I bet he will in a few years.
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He's the one that's taken the moral highground here Del and actually acting like an adult, and he's being criticised. I don't understand that.
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I think you're spot on in defending Bridge but it's rubbish to suggest Terry should withdraw from the squad. He is a massive, massive cunt but I don't think any player, let alone one who would do what Terry did to Bridge, would ever skip the World Cup by means of apology.
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It's not "by means of apology" though is it?

They can't be togethor patently, thus Bridge has made the sacrifice. Why should he have to?
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I'm not saying Bridge should "have" to make the sacrifice. I'm saying it's patently unrealistic to expect Terry to.

I really feel for Bridge and I definitely do not look down on him at all for making this decision. It would be very tough to work alongside a former close friend who had shagged your girl, the mother of your child. I don't know that I could do it, were I in his place. It's very sad and unfortunate for him and I have lots of sympathy.

The situation is compounded by the fact Terry has a face that just wants fucking kicking.

 

[Ryan]

He's an absolute fucking cunt of the greatest magnitude. I can't think of anyone I have less contempt for in the World of Football.

The thought of him lauding it up as Brave JT at the World Cup too, kissing the badge, chest jutting out, and celebrating like the horrible, despicable, pikey chav cunt he is should England achieve anything makes me wretch.

I've no real ill-feeling towards that England team, nor would it really bother me if they were in someway successful in South Africa, but the fact that Terry is involved and could gleen some satisfaction out of that success really irks me. I genuinely hope he gets injured in the meantime and can't make the squad. The fucking cunt.

 

[darkstarexodus]

What really galls me is not that Terry cheated on his own girl, or that he slept with a semi-available girl, but that he could do that to someone he considered a friend makes me angry, to be honest.

Normally I'd be throwing some lukewarm support behind the English team but actually seeing Terry lifting the Cup would inspire me to violence, Dantes-style. I don't normally wish injuries on players but, yeah, I wouldn't be upset if the cunt broke his ankle sometime between now and the summer. I want to see Mascherano get stuck in with him. Don't care if it's a red card. Or a three-game suspension. Boot the fucker. And I'll smile.

 

[Ryan]

They'd stick a picture of Wayne Bridge's gormless head in the Oxford English Dictionary under 'Karma' should he fucking snap Terry in two when they play each other Tomorrow.

Never gonna happen like cos Bridge seems to be the shy type, but Christ it would be fucking karmic heaven to see 'Lamps' having to go and pick Terry's leg up for him.

 

[TheBunnyman]

Terry's 'friends' have now been telling the media that 'Bridge was always a bottler'.

Classy.

 

[FoxForceFive]

For me it's missing the point Ryan.

Say England go on to win the World Cup. Bridge has then missed out on that, & that's Terry's fault too, he's let the fucker get stop him doing that as well as any other hurt he's caused him. Dont let the cunt win another battle.

Perhaps it's a strange attitude, but mine would always been one of 'fuck you' & doing my utmost to not let it effect things I wanted to do.

 

[Richey]

I recognise and agree on a moral basis that Terry should withdraw but on a practical level that might not solve very much.

Just say Terry does find a little bit of humility and remorse (won't happen of course, have we even seen an apology yet?) and decides to withdraw. Then we assume that Bridge then thinks it is okay for him to play.

Firstly it does kinda undermine the manager a little for players to be selecting themselves and setting conditions before the squad has even come close to being announced.

Secondly, Bridge is a decent player but ultimately is reserve full back. Terry, whatever you think of him (and don't get me wrong, I despise him) is a good and experienced centre back and is first choice. Like every World Cup there will come a time when England will struggle, something will go wrong or we will have an injury scare in the build up.
In those situations the scummier end of the media look for who to blame and the thicker end of the population all join in.
Say we draw 1-1 against some shit like the US for example and, the tabloids start asking saying things like "where's John Terry, true Englishman, proper leader?", aided by the inevitable photos of him on a beach somewhere looking all sad. Answer - he's not there because of that fella sat on the bench.

Result is Bridge is suddenly the bad guy again, Capello is incompetent and Terry is suddenly the victim.

 

[darkstarexodus]

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For me it's missing the point Ryan.

Say England go on to win the World Cup. Bridge has then missed out on that, & that's Terry's fault too, he's let the fucker get stop him doing that as well as any other hurt he's caused him. Dont let the cunt win another battle.

Perhaps it's a strange attitude, but mine would always been one of 'fuck you' & doing my utmost to not let it effect things I wanted to do.
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It would be nice for Bridge to be able to do this but I can understand why he's not.

 

[Red_Till_I_Die]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39052.msg1060431#msg1060431 date=1267147935]
It's the World Cup, not a birthday party.

I wouldn't give up my place if I were John Terry. (Admittedly, I wouldn't be in his position in the first place, but still.) Wayne Bridge will regret this decision.
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Yup. On both counts.

He should think himself lucky being part of a World Cup squad anyway.

 

[Judge Jules]

I'm quite sure Bridge already regrets it. He wasn't exactly faced with an easy choice. It's a measure of how devastated he must be that he still felt he had to do what he's done. There's no possible way it would have been right for him to force himself to ignore feelings that strong. I doubt his form would have been any good in those circumstances either.

 

[peekay]

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Agreed, it's ridiculous.

Your wife/gf whatever cheats on you and you punish yourself by ruling yourself out of the World Cup?

Granted, it wouldnt be easy to even be in the same room as that prick; but lots of professionals manage to get the job done even when they despise their own team-mates.
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Easier said that done.

Maybe, just maybe, in his mind he does not think world cup is just not worth it. Plenty of people have sacrificed chances of advancing their careers for the sake of their family and have come out feeling happy. I have seen a number of them in my family and circle of friends.

It is just unfair for people to put themselves in his boots and criticize him for it. He knows the entire picture and it is his feelings. Let us respect him for whatever decision he takes.

The only person who should be criticized is Terry. He did not even offer to step down as England captain until Capello took the decision.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

If Capello was as tough as people say then he should have dropped Terry.

 

[KopKing]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39052.msg1060369#msg1060369 date=1267138051]
Well Capello's come out and said "we still hope to have him in South Africa" so you can take it as fucking signed, sealed and delivered that he'd have been selected.

With that in mind, and the fact that Bridge deems the situation so bad that he won't meet up with Terry, never mind go to a World Cup with him, this is obviously a fucking issue for him. It's easy for a bunch of keyboard warriors to sit back and tell him to "man the fuck up", but clearly if you're going to give up the chance to go to probably your last ever World Cup, all the while knowing that your only competition for the left-back slot in Cole is crocked for the next 3 months, then I daresay Wayne's given this a bit of thought.

If Terry had any balls whatsoever, any fucking morals at all, he'd withdraw from the squad and let Bridge go. It'll never happen of course, because Terry's a great big fucking cunt obviously.
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Top post. Well said.

 

[ibromurph]

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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39052.msg1060369#msg1060369 date=1267138051]
Well Capello's come out and said "we still hope to have him in South Africa" so you can take it as fucking signed, sealed and delivered that he'd have been selected.

With that in mind, and the fact that Bridge deems the situation so bad that he won't meet up with Terry, never mind go to a World Cup with him, this is obviously a fucking issue for him. It's easy for a bunch of keyboard warriors to sit back and tell him to "man the fuck up", but clearly if you're going to give up the chance to go to probably your last ever World Cup, all the while knowing that your only competition for the left-back slot in Cole is crocked for the next 3 months, then I daresay Wayne's given this a bit of thought.

If Terry had any balls whatsoever, any fucking morals at all, he'd withdraw from the squad and let Bridge go. It'll never happen of course, because Terry's a great big fucking cunt obviously.
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Top post. Well said.
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+1.

I actually think what Bridge has done is pretty selfless and am surprised at some of the abuse he's received. "Turning his back on his country" read the headlines. My arse. If he had stayed in the team, most of these soulless hacks would be reporting about all the divisions in the squad and which player stood where on the whole debate. No doubt some clever journalist cnut would give us a 4-4-2 formation of team Bridge vs team Terry, all the while taking the focus away from the football. By Bridge withdrawing, he's actually given England a chance to focus on the football in the WC.

I respect Bridge for making this sacrifice. John Terry should be the one who gets any abuse.

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=39052.msg1060637#msg1060637 date=1267197523]
I actually think what Bridge has done is pretty selfless and am surprised at some of the abuse he's received. "Turning his back on his country" read the headlines. My arse. If he had stayed in the team, most of these soulless hacks would be reporting about all the divisions in the squad and which player stood where on the whole debate. No doubt some clever journalist cnut would give us a 4-4-2 formation of team Bridge vs team Terry, all the while taking the focus away from the football. By Bridge withdrawing, he's actually given England a chance to focus on the football in the WC.

I respect Bridge for making this sacrifice. John Terry should be the one who gets any abuse.
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That's definitely a fair point, well made.

And I think Terry will get a shitload of abuse from the 'eenggurllannndd' tubthumping fans that seem to attend any meaningless friendly ready to boo anyone & everyone.

I like supporting England, but there's so many retarded 'middle england' fans that follow them around can be a little embarrassing. At least this time they'll have a right to boo someone.