Brewster's possible millions
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Which out of Salah, Firmino or Mane would he be regularly replacing?
Sorry - don’t see it, unless one is injured.
You’ve misread my post or missed one of the key points.
I don’t think a loan to a lesser team works, because their is no incentive for the club that takes a player in loan to develop the player - hence they often don’t play as much.
Signing for a team that has a model based on giving young players playing time to develop them into highly profitable assets is different.
Any striker at Liverpool is likely to have limited playing time given our front 3.
Oops LFC stats or wherever I took that from needs updating !
I saw that loan point Steve but was debating the 'sale as opposed to staying' conundrum for Brewster (it likely doesn't apply of course to every youngster) from your Guardian quote. As in, even moving to a mid-table BL team wouldn't guarantee him starts or match time.
We've lierallli got one good striker in the whole squad. The chances would be there.
Isnt this just what we have done for fucking years? Pinch under 20 talent from overseas and here after they did much of the work.
Suso, Sterling, Pacheco etc
I dont see the point fucking moaning about it.
Maybe tell them we wont report them if they stick a first option clause in his contract for us and let the kid go.
He isnt gonna displace Mane, Salah or Firmino is he. Maybe hes not happy playing the 2 carling cup games we play every year before getting knocked out.
Suso, Sterling, Pacheco etc
I dont see the point fucking moaning about it.
Maybe tell them we wont report them if they stick a first option clause in his contract for us and let the kid go.
He isnt gonna displace Mane, Salah or Firmino is he. Maybe hes not happy playing the 2 carling cup games we play every year before getting knocked out.
But if he was rated as Macca etc are saying why have the twin spastics of Solanke and Ings been on the bench? Why has Woodburn been the one given chances.
Brewster was a bit crippled for half the season
More crippled than Ings is when he starts?
The desperation to deny that there was actually a great talent in the Academy is bizarre as well as sad. As for whom he'd replace in he first place, he would probably have alternated and improved Klopp's rotation policy. The point is he would have provided better competition, a much better threat from the bench as well as a new and better option in terms of rotation.
Im deffo not denying it Macca, I dont watch the youth football.
I just dont get how if he is better than Solanke and Ings he never featured and is now off tk Germany
I don't leave think he will go but if he thinks he is better than us he is clearly blind and by all means...
Maybe he just doesn't fit in and doesn't want to be there...
I think he would be silly to fuck off myself as we are boss and also Klopp raises players up...
Keeping hold of a miserable player who is not willing to sign for whatever reason... Meh... not bothered really...
Maybe he just doesn't fit in and doesn't want to be there...
I think he would be silly to fuck off myself as we are boss and also Klopp raises players up...
Keeping hold of a miserable player who is not willing to sign for whatever reason... Meh... not bothered really...
He had been accelerated through the yoot system into the U23s and was on the verge. If truth be told, he still doesn't look physically right for the demands of the PL, but he had featured on the bench before he had a terrible injury. He's going to be ace, but he actually wasn't ready to play a major role this season. At the rate of development at that age, next year could have been an entirely different matter.
There hasn't been one player in 20 years who has come through our youth system, left and done anything to suggest we were wrong to keep them, apart from Sterling - if he even counts given we nicked him from QPR when he was 16 or so.
Admittedly, until TAA this season, there hasn't been one who has actually contributed to the first team at all since Sterling.
Will be interesting to watch Conor Coady in the Premier league next season, see how he's progressed.
Admittedly, until TAA this season, there hasn't been one who has actually contributed to the first team at all since Sterling.
Will be interesting to watch Conor Coady in the Premier league next season, see how he's progressed.
Eh? Do you mean wrong to let them go, or keep them earlier on?
Neither, just that whatever happens - stay longer, leave earlier - the outcome is the same and nobody we've let go has done anything to prove that decision wrong. Nor has staying longer made much difference, either.
But my wider point is I think that young players simply need to have the confidence to leave big clubs, and either demand loans to ensure they first-team football, or just leave and get it.
I understand that there aren't many players like Macca, Owen, Fowler and Gerrard, who simply bulldoze their way into the first team at 18or whatever through sheer talent, and I do get that to do so at Liverpool is so hard given the expectations, pressure and quality. But that's the same at other big, rich clubs. Chelsea are a great example of a club overloaded with young players.
Look at De Bruyne, Salah, Lukaku, Bertrand, Ake and Loftus-Cheek. They knew they wouldn't get enough chances at Chelsea, so left in order to play first-team football, and they were far more "established" than most youth players.
If you haven't made a break-through by the time you're 20, just go.
Yes. The appalling decline in the youth league system hasn't helped at all. They drift through without any real preparation for senior competitive football.
I'm pleased we've started taking more care not only to pick good loan clubs but also to pressure them to play the players. An exception this season has been Ryan Kent at Bristol City. That was a real echo of the bad old days. Bristol City begged us to let him go there, then the manager decides he doesn't fit his style of play, consigns him to the stands and then sends him back saying 'he's a great player' whose value has 'gone up' thanks to the experience. Utterly useless and a waste of time.
I'm pleased we've started taking more care not only to pick good loan clubs but also to pressure them to play the players. An exception this season has been Ryan Kent at Bristol City. That was a real echo of the bad old days. Bristol City begged us to let him go there, then the manager decides he doesn't fit his style of play, consigns him to the stands and then sends him back saying 'he's a great player' whose value has 'gone up' thanks to the experience. Utterly useless and a waste of time.
If Sterling doesn't count then nor does Brewster. We picked him from Chelsea when he was already 15 and v highly rated.
He's definitely got the potential to be a starter for us. His finishing is top top class.
There’s also a huge, huge amount of luck and being in the right place at the right time; be that the right manager, club or even the right injury to a player who gives you the opportunity.
Clyne and Moreno’s injuries this season gave opportunities to the likes of TAA (and Robertson, but he’s a bit old to be part of the discussion)
Pretty sure Harry Kane also took advantage of that sort of opportunity, although it was probably more to do with Soldado being fucking shit
Clyne and Moreno’s injuries this season gave opportunities to the likes of TAA (and Robertson, but he’s a bit old to be part of the discussion)
Pretty sure Harry Kane also took advantage of that sort of opportunity, although it was probably more to do with Soldado being fucking shit
He came back from the World Cup and was given time off. And then he got a really bad injury. In between time, very sensibly, he was introduced to first team training while being played for the under 18s and under 23s. There was a plan to start giving him some minutes for the first team, which would then be expanded if he really looked ready, with a view to pushing on next season. There's hardly any mystery. He only turned 18 a month ago.
Now it looks as though Yan Dhanda - another fine prospect - is off to Swansea, not on loan but a transfer. This is going to be a very tricky process - we need to hold on to some of our best young attacking talents, and bring in a couple of top class experienced attackers, in spite of the fact that Mane, Salah and Firmino look pretty much set in stone as our front line. The likes of Dhanda are moving because they don't think they'll get enough chances, leaving us with the second tier of talents in the Academy, and who among the senior players will sign knowing they'll probably spend most of their time watching the regular trio? We do need genuinely high class alternatives in the squad, a mixture of up-and-coming and tried-and-tested, but we're in danger of being undermined by our own success here in terms of the first team. We've gone from losing the likes of Sterling because they see other clubs as being better bets for success, to losing similar talents because they see us as being too successful to give them much of a chance. It's progress, but it needs careful management.
Is Brewster definitely gone Mac?
I don't think we'll have that much trouble getting in one quality forward.
Even if none of the front three got injured you would be looking at them playing a big chunk of games just through rotation.
Couple in injury/suspensions with that & they could end up playing a huge role.
Provided they're good enough to be able to play in at least two of the front three roles then they will get games, & a lot of them imo.
It's getting further strength in depth upfront that may be an issue, but Frankie is definitely improving & could solve that issue if he continues to do so, at which point we may see two of the front three rested against certain teams, although the way that front four cut through that low block of Brighton it wouldn't surprise me to see him deployed instead of a midfielder against teams that park the bus as well.
Even if none of the front three got injured you would be looking at them playing a big chunk of games just through rotation.
Couple in injury/suspensions with that & they could end up playing a huge role.
Provided they're good enough to be able to play in at least two of the front three roles then they will get games, & a lot of them imo.
It's getting further strength in depth upfront that may be an issue, but Frankie is definitely improving & could solve that issue if he continues to do so, at which point we may see two of the front three rested against certain teams, although the way that front four cut through that low block of Brighton it wouldn't surprise me to see him deployed instead of a midfielder against teams that park the bus as well.
Twitter noises saying he's been released? He looked impressive in the clips I've seen him in. Can't agree upon a contract or deemed not good enough (highly unlikely)? Didn't we pay WBA £500k for him? 😕
We offered him a very good new (incentivised) contract but he wouldn't consider it.
Seems odd
Club rallied round him after his injury
Ridiculous support with his racism interview
Klopp gives him a massive shout-out several times this season (last one being at the football writers awards), and has said he's a massive part of his plans
I cannot fathom why he thinks it's right to move now. A loan sure, but not a transfer
the new craze:
[article]Tottenham Hotspur are set to lose both academy talents Keanan Bennetts and Reo Griffiths this summer with the duo expected to join the growing list of young, English players heading to Germany, according to the Evening Standard.
Bennetts looks set to join Borussia Monchengladbach, whilst Griffiths has been linked with a move to Red Bull Leipzig as they both go in search of first-team football.
The news comes as a huge blow for Spurs, with both Bennetts and Griffiths two of the club’s most highly rated academy players.
Bennetts to Monchengladbach
Bennetts would join fellow countrymen Mandela Egbo and potentially Reece Oxford at Gladbach, with the German club hoping to complete a permanent deal for the West Ham United midfielder.
The Bundesliga have a growing contingent of young, English players, which also includes the likes of Ademola Lookman and Jadon Sancho – both who were rumoured as wildcards for Gareth Southgate’s England World Cup squad.[/article]
[article]Tottenham Hotspur are set to lose both academy talents Keanan Bennetts and Reo Griffiths this summer with the duo expected to join the growing list of young, English players heading to Germany, according to the Evening Standard.
Bennetts looks set to join Borussia Monchengladbach, whilst Griffiths has been linked with a move to Red Bull Leipzig as they both go in search of first-team football.
The news comes as a huge blow for Spurs, with both Bennetts and Griffiths two of the club’s most highly rated academy players.
Bennetts to Monchengladbach
Bennetts would join fellow countrymen Mandela Egbo and potentially Reece Oxford at Gladbach, with the German club hoping to complete a permanent deal for the West Ham United midfielder.
The Bundesliga have a growing contingent of young, English players, which also includes the likes of Ademola Lookman and Jadon Sancho – both who were rumoured as wildcards for Gareth Southgate’s England World Cup squad.[/article]
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