Post Match Bournemouth (A) 0-2 Saturday 1st Feb
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Another problem is MOTD not calling it as it is and turning fans against the refs even more.
So last week the pundits complained about Oliver getting threats sent to him, now they downplay a correct decision.
Yeah the refs are mainly shit in the Prem, but they did get it right this time and that should be emphasized if they actually want to cool down the bad rhetoric surrounding them.
The only question on the penalty is if there is contact or not. Contact in the slightest in that situation and it's nailed on.
I can understand not seeing the contact in real time but the replay makes it look pretty unquestionable.
I can understand not seeing the contact in real time but the replay makes it look pretty unquestionable.
Did they show, and highlight, the angle from behind where you can see the clip on Gakpo’s leg?
They did and still said it was soft.
And these cunts have played football??? Fuck me.
I do think if the ref didn’t give it, VAR wouldn’t have. Only one slow motion angle shows the shin contact properly.
If it hadn’t have been given I don’t think we’d have been as angry as have been with other decisions over the recent years.
I did feel the ref aired on the side of giving us most things today after Spurs away last year.
I’m guessing Arsenal fans are fuming.
100% this.
One of the knobheads things I did with my mates in high school was kick their trailing leg when walking. They go off balance walking. Exemplifying that when running what happens? You tumble. It’s a pen all day long
I thought it was a dive live, they showed nothing to indicate otherwise. The reverse angle is quite conclusive and it's an obvious penalty.
Yesterday's win is about the quality we have. Salah, Ali, were the main game changers.
That's why we pay them the big bucks and that is why we are where we are.
Without arguably Mo and Virg, are we still going to be ahead of teams like Bournemouth / Forest / Newcastle?
We will know next season.
That's why we pay them the big bucks and that is why we are where we are.
Without arguably Mo and Virg, are we still going to be ahead of teams like Bournemouth / Forest / Newcastle?
We will know next season.
Ha couldn’t have nailed it much better and if we were going to have an injury to a regular starter, TAA would be my choice.
All you have to do is look at the reaction of Cook - he knew he'd caught him hence the lack of response from him when the pen was given.
No we won't. Maybe in 2027.
Fans and pundits have to take some of the blame IMO when we/they blather on about "soft penalties", "common sense" and "letting the game flow". What those expressions actually mean is ignoring the rules and turning a blind eye to fouls, so when exactly should they or shouldn't they? There are too many poor referees at the top level in English football, but (maybe partly because I used to ref at college to stay fit between playing games myself) I have some sympathy if they get a bit confused about what the rest of us actually want from them.
But that's the thing, the inconsistency in application of the laws of the game over the years has allowed fans/pundits to create a spectrum over what is and isn't a pen/foul. Then that probably feeds in to the refs viewpoint.
I do agree everyone outside of refereeing makes it difficult for them, but they make it difficult for themselves. Like, every match there's an error of varying significance and a wide array of criteria for each ref to apply the rules.
I almost wish they were too harsh, or more like NFL refs (who still make errors) where the rules are rigidly followed.
I played both as a winger and a full back at Rugby and can assure you 'ankle taps' were extremely painful
The abuse of refs and the rise in fan conspiracy theories that their teams are somehow targeted with bad decisions are fuelled by the poor reporting of such incidents as the penalty yesterday.
MOTD calling it soft and not focusing on the angle that clearly shows contact really does the ref an injustice while a newspaper report I read on the game called the penalty contentious and said there was a suggestion that "Gakpo tripped himself up"
No there wasn't.
There was evidence that it was a clear trip but if you hadn't seen the actual coverage, as many will not because it wasn't shown live on UK TV, then it would be easy to form the opinion that Liverpool got a dodgy penalty and let your mind take you to whatever conspiratorial place you want to go as an opposing fan
MOTD calling it soft and not focusing on the angle that clearly shows contact really does the ref an injustice while a newspaper report I read on the game called the penalty contentious and said there was a suggestion that "Gakpo tripped himself up"
No there wasn't.
There was evidence that it was a clear trip but if you hadn't seen the actual coverage, as many will not because it wasn't shown live on UK TV, then it would be easy to form the opinion that Liverpool got a dodgy penalty and let your mind take you to whatever conspiratorial place you want to go as an opposing fan
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But if the ref didn't give it, there will only be 2 reasons. He either didn't think it was a pen, or he didn't see the trip and thought Cody fell on his own.
If he saw the trip and didn't think it was a pen then he has some explaining to do. If he didn't see the trip, VAR has to point out to him that a trip did happen, it's their job.
Either way, he should be told of the contact / trip had happened and the only correct decision is to award the pen. Cody didn't fall on his own accord, that's factual.
MOTD were pushing an agenda - they had a big image of the ref on the screen whilst talking about the pen and Macca's possible second yellow.
Gakpo (probably our second quickest player) was at full pace and someone ran into his ankle so no wonder he hit the deck.
Macca's incident could have been a second yellow, but it was borderline. We were right to take im straight off though.
Gakpo (probably our second quickest player) was at full pace and someone ran into his ankle so no wonder he hit the deck.
Macca's incident could have been a second yellow, but it was borderline. We were right to take im straight off though.
At first, I though Gakpo faked it but when reviewing the correct angle, it was as clear a nailed on pen as one can get.
Additionally, the lack of any protest from the Bournemouth player was telling. He knew it was a pen and was caught on camera saying that it was a foul to one of his teammates.
In actual fact, fair fucks to the ref - I thought England had a good game today - he could've easily missed that pen himself.
Additionally, the lack of any protest from the Bournemouth player was telling. He knew it was a pen and was caught on camera saying that it was a foul to one of his teammates.
In actual fact, fair fucks to the ref - I thought England had a good game today - he could've easily missed that pen himself.
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