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[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045150#msg1045150 date=1264720841]
Well, as you gathered from my clarification, my question was prompting such a discussion rather than another moan-fest.
I don't think Rafa trusts him to play in the midfield two either right now, which is why I'm a little disappointed that he's not tried a midfield three that might afford Aquilani a little more protection and Rafa a little more confidence.
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Well he's always going to play second fiddle to Gerrard in the attacking part of that triumverate. He obviously won't displace Mascherano. Which leaves him in competition with Lucas, and I can see why Rafa prefers the Brazilian right now to be honest.
Well, as you gathered from my clarification, my question was prompting such a discussion rather than another moan-fest.
I don't think Rafa trusts him to play in the midfield two either right now, which is why I'm a little disappointed that he's not tried a midfield three that might afford Aquilani a little more protection and Rafa a little more confidence.
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Well he's always going to play second fiddle to Gerrard in the attacking part of that triumverate. He obviously won't displace Mascherano. Which leaves him in competition with Lucas, and I can see why Rafa prefers the Brazilian right now to be honest.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045136#msg1045136 date=1264719943]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045126#msg1045126 date=1264719068]
I was enquiring as to the possible logic behind such a decision as opposed to the likelihood of it coming to pass.
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Well, I don't really see the point in putting up 'preferred teams', when it's never likely to come to pass.
Similarly, I prefer to discuss why Rafa chooses to do something, as opposed to complaining about it. Not saying you do, obviously.
There's an easy excuse and scapegoat out there for anyone with ever decision Rafa makes. I just find it pointless, lazy, and laregly missing the point.
Anyway, back to Aquilani. I don't think Rafa trusts him. For various reasons really. How will he gain that trust/improve/gel with other players/become a Premier League player? By playing regularly of course. Right now, I don't think Rafa's prepared to give him that freedom. We're simply not equipped to carry someone.
Actually carry someone's not fair, and not really the term I was after. But I think (hope) you get my point.
[/quote][quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045150#msg1045150 date=1264720841]
Well, as you gathered from my clarification, my question was prompting such a discussion rather than another moan-fest.
I don't think Rafa trusts him to play in the midfield two either right now, which is why I'm a little disappointed that he's not tried a midfield three that might afford Aquilani a little more protection and Rafa a little more confidence.
You're right, the team can ill afford a liability in an important position but many would argue - probably quite successfully - that we've suffered from that a fair bit this season anyways.
Most of all I want to understand whether Aquilani is viewed by Rafa as someone who can play week in, week out. The price tag and the circumstances in which he arrived all suggest that he should be, but it'd be nice to get a few more reassuring signs.
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I'll save you both the time you're wasting on your elongated chalk board theories. Your intellectual soccer jousting. The hours you spend analysing players who don't even play for us, like 'Yak', the new Tibetan Maradonna.
Rafa =
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045126#msg1045126 date=1264719068]
I was enquiring as to the possible logic behind such a decision as opposed to the likelihood of it coming to pass.
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Well, I don't really see the point in putting up 'preferred teams', when it's never likely to come to pass.
Similarly, I prefer to discuss why Rafa chooses to do something, as opposed to complaining about it. Not saying you do, obviously.
There's an easy excuse and scapegoat out there for anyone with ever decision Rafa makes. I just find it pointless, lazy, and laregly missing the point.
Anyway, back to Aquilani. I don't think Rafa trusts him. For various reasons really. How will he gain that trust/improve/gel with other players/become a Premier League player? By playing regularly of course. Right now, I don't think Rafa's prepared to give him that freedom. We're simply not equipped to carry someone.
Actually carry someone's not fair, and not really the term I was after. But I think (hope) you get my point.
[/quote][quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045150#msg1045150 date=1264720841]
Well, as you gathered from my clarification, my question was prompting such a discussion rather than another moan-fest.
I don't think Rafa trusts him to play in the midfield two either right now, which is why I'm a little disappointed that he's not tried a midfield three that might afford Aquilani a little more protection and Rafa a little more confidence.
You're right, the team can ill afford a liability in an important position but many would argue - probably quite successfully - that we've suffered from that a fair bit this season anyways.
Most of all I want to understand whether Aquilani is viewed by Rafa as someone who can play week in, week out. The price tag and the circumstances in which he arrived all suggest that he should be, but it'd be nice to get a few more reassuring signs.
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I'll save you both the time you're wasting on your elongated chalk board theories. Your intellectual soccer jousting. The hours you spend analysing players who don't even play for us, like 'Yak', the new Tibetan Maradonna.
Rafa =
Lucas may lack in certain departments but yeah, he works his bollocks off and will follow his instructions to the letter. It's not hard to see why he keeps his place under Rafa. That said, in the last couple of games, he's been poor.
I'd rather see Rafa change the the setup. Make it a midfield three and force the widemen further up to support the attacker when in possession as opposed to the 'support striker'.
Even if Lucas starts games and Aquilani is used as a sub, I think its worth trying.
I'd rather see Rafa change the the setup. Make it a midfield three and force the widemen further up to support the attacker when in possession as opposed to the 'support striker'.
Even if Lucas starts games and Aquilani is used as a sub, I think its worth trying.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045167#msg1045167 date=1264721315]
I'd rather see Rafa change the the setup. Make it a midfield three and force the widemen further up to support the attacker when in possession as opposed to the 'support striker'.
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I don't really think the setup needs changing that much to be honest. I can see why everyone wants us to become a lot more attacking, and create more goalscoring opportunities obviously, but I think most of us not being able to do that recently is down to confidence being at an all-time low, trying to keep cleansheets, playing timidly (is that a word?), and desperatly trying to keep our shape as opposed to playing free of the shackles.
We'll improve from an attacking perspective by getting our better attacking players - Torres, Benayoun, Riera, Gerrard - back in the team and playing togethor again.
I'd rather see Rafa change the the setup. Make it a midfield three and force the widemen further up to support the attacker when in possession as opposed to the 'support striker'.
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I don't really think the setup needs changing that much to be honest. I can see why everyone wants us to become a lot more attacking, and create more goalscoring opportunities obviously, but I think most of us not being able to do that recently is down to confidence being at an all-time low, trying to keep cleansheets, playing timidly (is that a word?), and desperatly trying to keep our shape as opposed to playing free of the shackles.
We'll improve from an attacking perspective by getting our better attacking players - Torres, Benayoun, Riera, Gerrard - back in the team and playing togethor again.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045156#msg1045156 date=1264721056]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045150#msg1045150 date=1264720841]
Well, as you gathered from my clarification, my question was prompting such a discussion rather than another moan-fest.
I don't think Rafa trusts him to play in the midfield two either right now, which is why I'm a little disappointed that he's not tried a midfield three that might afford Aquilani a little more protection and Rafa a little more confidence.
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Well he's always going to play second fiddle to Gerrard in the attacking part of that triumverate. He obviously won't displace Mascherano. Which leaves him in competition with Lucas, and I can see why Rafa prefers the Brazilian right now to be honest.
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Perhaps in certain games but why against Wolves? There was no excuse to settle for that stale inept midfield performance, yet no substitution was made to freshen it up. I find it very odd. Rafa said Aqualani is the man who can make the pass in the final third yet didn't feel the need/or want, to test the theory out at Wolves.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045150#msg1045150 date=1264720841]
Well, as you gathered from my clarification, my question was prompting such a discussion rather than another moan-fest.
I don't think Rafa trusts him to play in the midfield two either right now, which is why I'm a little disappointed that he's not tried a midfield three that might afford Aquilani a little more protection and Rafa a little more confidence.
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Well he's always going to play second fiddle to Gerrard in the attacking part of that triumverate. He obviously won't displace Mascherano. Which leaves him in competition with Lucas, and I can see why Rafa prefers the Brazilian right now to be honest.
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Perhaps in certain games but why against Wolves? There was no excuse to settle for that stale inept midfield performance, yet no substitution was made to freshen it up. I find it very odd. Rafa said Aqualani is the man who can make the pass in the final third yet didn't feel the need/or want, to test the theory out at Wolves.
I think you misunderstand. A 4-5-1 (or 4-3-3 in attack) is hardly playing free of the shackles and there is nothing I'd like to see more than this team keep it's shape and play properly.
My reasoning for advocating this is ultimately to become more creative, sure, but firstly and most importantly to improve our possession game, which has largely been diabolical all season long.
By compressing the midfield and placing the players closer together, the idea is that we'd hopefully see less of players trying to force the play for lack of a decent passing option. The long ball is useless because we have no height and first time ball is often useless because we have no pace. Slow build up is the way to go.
My reasoning for advocating this is ultimately to become more creative, sure, but firstly and most importantly to improve our possession game, which has largely been diabolical all season long.
By compressing the midfield and placing the players closer together, the idea is that we'd hopefully see less of players trying to force the play for lack of a decent passing option. The long ball is useless because we have no height and first time ball is often useless because we have no pace. Slow build up is the way to go.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045172#msg1045172 date=1264721528]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045167#msg1045167 date=1264721315]
I'd rather see Rafa change the the setup. Make it a midfield three and force the widemen further up to support the attacker when in possession as opposed to the 'support striker'.
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I don't really think the setup needs changing that much to be honest. I can see why everyone wants us to become a lot more attacking, and create more goalscoring opportunities obviously, but I think most of us not being able to do that recently is down to confidence being at an all-time low, trying to keep cleansheets, playing timidly (is that a word?), and desperatly trying to keep our shape as opposed to playing free of the shackles.
We'll improve from an attacking perspective by getting our better attacking players - Torres, Benayoun, Riera, Gerrard - back in the team and playing togethor again.
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Yeah good points there mate. What about Johnson too? He will add to our attacking play as well when he returns.
We've been fucked over terribly by injuries this season.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045167#msg1045167 date=1264721315]
I'd rather see Rafa change the the setup. Make it a midfield three and force the widemen further up to support the attacker when in possession as opposed to the 'support striker'.
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I don't really think the setup needs changing that much to be honest. I can see why everyone wants us to become a lot more attacking, and create more goalscoring opportunities obviously, but I think most of us not being able to do that recently is down to confidence being at an all-time low, trying to keep cleansheets, playing timidly (is that a word?), and desperatly trying to keep our shape as opposed to playing free of the shackles.
We'll improve from an attacking perspective by getting our better attacking players - Torres, Benayoun, Riera, Gerrard - back in the team and playing togethor again.
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Yeah good points there mate. What about Johnson too? He will add to our attacking play as well when he returns.
We've been fucked over terribly by injuries this season.
Unfortunately he can't defend for fucking toffee.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38673.msg1045176#msg1045176 date=1264722015]
I think you misunderstand. A 4-5-1 (or 4-3-3 in attack) is hardly playing free of the shackles and there is nothing I'd like to see more than this team keep it's shape and play properly.
My reasoning for advocating this is ultimately to become more creative, sure, but firstly and most importantly to improve our possession game, which has largely been diabolical all season long.
By compressing the midfield and placing the players closer together, the idea is that we'd hopefully see less of players trying to force the play for lack of a decent passing option. The long ball is useless because we have no height and first time ball is often useless because we have no pace. Slow build up is the way to go.
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Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
I think you misunderstand. A 4-5-1 (or 4-3-3 in attack) is hardly playing free of the shackles and there is nothing I'd like to see more than this team keep it's shape and play properly.
My reasoning for advocating this is ultimately to become more creative, sure, but firstly and most importantly to improve our possession game, which has largely been diabolical all season long.
By compressing the midfield and placing the players closer together, the idea is that we'd hopefully see less of players trying to force the play for lack of a decent passing option. The long ball is useless because we have no height and first time ball is often useless because we have no pace. Slow build up is the way to go.
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Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=38673.msg1044178#msg1044178 date=1264622624]
Cant we just forfeit? Or just play the kids. Anything but watching that shite again.
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Ha ha sad but true.
Cant we just forfeit? Or just play the kids. Anything but watching that shite again.
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Ha ha sad but true.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=38673.msg1045205#msg1045205 date=1264726070]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
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Wow.
Good point.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
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Wow.
Good point.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=38673.msg1045205#msg1045205 date=1264726070]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
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So, we need to change our tactics and formations, thus making players either play in less comfortbale roles or positions than they're accustomed to, whilst at the same time ensue that we don't have a "square pegs round holes" scenario?
Gotcha.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
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So, we need to change our tactics and formations, thus making players either play in less comfortbale roles or positions than they're accustomed to, whilst at the same time ensue that we don't have a "square pegs round holes" scenario?
Gotcha.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045207#msg1045207 date=1264726345]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=38673.msg1045205#msg1045205 date=1264726070]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
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So, we need to change our tactics and formations, thus making players either play in less comfortbale roles or positions than they're accustomed to, whilst at the same time ensue that we don't have a "square pegs round holes" scenario?
Gotcha.
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Hmm let's see. Yossi likes to play on the right or in the hole. Currently he is f*cked off on left.
Lucas has always said he is a Gerrard type of attacking player but sits deep with Masher.
Degan is right back being told he is winger now.
Aurelio is left back being asked to play everywhere.
Kuyt is a striker who is asked to play as a right winger.
So as you can see if nothing else these players should know all about playing in different positions.
If Rafa actually played each player in there preferred roles we'd have a very decent 1st 11 who were happy with their place in the team.
Or when everyone is fit.
--------------------Reina-----------------
GJ---------Carra-----------Agger----Aurelio
Gerrard/Kuyt--Masher----Aqualani/Gerrrard----Reira
-------------------Yossi-------------------
-------------------Torres------------------
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=38673.msg1045205#msg1045205 date=1264726070]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38673.msg1045184#msg1045184 date=1264723259]
Erm, I think we're actually saying (or advocating) the same thing to be honest. Besides, the 4-5-1/4-3-3 is effectively what we played with all last season, and ended up scoring more often than Warren Beatty then. The difference between then and now is that we don't have the same players in the team.
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That's why we need to change tactics and formation. We don't have the squad for it anymore.
Square pegs round holes.
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So, we need to change our tactics and formations, thus making players either play in less comfortbale roles or positions than they're accustomed to, whilst at the same time ensue that we don't have a "square pegs round holes" scenario?
Gotcha.
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Hmm let's see. Yossi likes to play on the right or in the hole. Currently he is f*cked off on left.
Lucas has always said he is a Gerrard type of attacking player but sits deep with Masher.
Degan is right back being told he is winger now.
Aurelio is left back being asked to play everywhere.
Kuyt is a striker who is asked to play as a right winger.
So as you can see if nothing else these players should know all about playing in different positions.
If Rafa actually played each player in there preferred roles we'd have a very decent 1st 11 who were happy with their place in the team.
Or when everyone is fit.
--------------------Reina-----------------
GJ---------Carra-----------Agger----Aurelio
Gerrard/Kuyt--Masher----Aqualani/Gerrrard----Reira
-------------------Yossi-------------------
-------------------Torres------------------
When everyone is fit (and confident), the 4231 can work wonderfully - as we saw in the second half of last season. The point is that our best players are not fit and/or confident.
I'd like to see us play 442 at home, certainly against teams like Bolton - and especially when Torres is injured, as none of our other 'strikers' are capable of playing that lone striker role.
What we need most of all, however, is the positive, ultra-determined spirit that we saw against Spurs but which evaporated, for whatever reason, against Wolves.
The players have got to conjure this themselves, though, seeing as Rafa clearly can't manage it - and, as Sunny said in another thread, you can't rely on the supporters to wave flags at the bus every single game.
I'd like to see us play 442 at home, certainly against teams like Bolton - and especially when Torres is injured, as none of our other 'strikers' are capable of playing that lone striker role.
What we need most of all, however, is the positive, ultra-determined spirit that we saw against Spurs but which evaporated, for whatever reason, against Wolves.
The players have got to conjure this themselves, though, seeing as Rafa clearly can't manage it - and, as Sunny said in another thread, you can't rely on the supporters to wave flags at the bus every single game.
Jussi Jaaskelainen
Steinsson, Knight, Cahill, Ricketts
Taylor, Cohen, Muamba, Yong-Lee
Klasnic, Davies
Thats how they lined up last time out. Not alot of quality in there really. I wouldn't opt for the 2 slow wingers Maxi/Riera combination as if we sling cross after cross in we won't get alot of joy from Cahill and Knight in the air. I guess if we set up as usual they will line up with an extra man in midfield against us and get Muamba to follow Gerrard about so he could be in for a frustrating day again.
Im off with.
-------------------Reina
Carragher, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Aurelio
-------Mascherano, Gerrard,
Babel-----------Aquilani----------Riera
------------------Kuyt
I know Babel's not very good but his pace gives Gerrard and Aquilani something to hit in behind and another kind of threat for Bolton to contend with.
Steinsson, Knight, Cahill, Ricketts
Taylor, Cohen, Muamba, Yong-Lee
Klasnic, Davies
Thats how they lined up last time out. Not alot of quality in there really. I wouldn't opt for the 2 slow wingers Maxi/Riera combination as if we sling cross after cross in we won't get alot of joy from Cahill and Knight in the air. I guess if we set up as usual they will line up with an extra man in midfield against us and get Muamba to follow Gerrard about so he could be in for a frustrating day again.
Im off with.
-------------------Reina
Carragher, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Aurelio
-------Mascherano, Gerrard,
Babel-----------Aquilani----------Riera
------------------Kuyt
I know Babel's not very good but his pace gives Gerrard and Aquilani something to hit in behind and another kind of threat for Bolton to contend with.
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the_khl
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The chance of Babel playing on behalf of Maxi equals zero.
Personally I'd keep Insua at LB as he has been decent of late, otherwise you're probably spot on. (If Agger still isn't fit that is).
Personally I'd keep Insua at LB as he has been decent of late, otherwise you're probably spot on. (If Agger still isn't fit that is).
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The chance of Babel playing on behalf of Maxi equals zero.
Personally I'd keep Insua at LB as he has been decent of late, otherwise you're probably spot on. (If Agger still isn't fit that is).
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Im miles off with my selection. Rafa will go with Lucas, Insua and Maxi for starters and i don't think im going to give up my Saturday afternoon to watch us look laboured and lacking in inspiration. Think ill head to the races instead.
The chance of Babel playing on behalf of Maxi equals zero.
Personally I'd keep Insua at LB as he has been decent of late, otherwise you're probably spot on. (If Agger still isn't fit that is).
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Im miles off with my selection. Rafa will go with Lucas, Insua and Maxi for starters and i don't think im going to give up my Saturday afternoon to watch us look laboured and lacking in inspiration. Think ill head to the races instead.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38673.msg1045371#msg1045371 date=1264760772]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38673.msg1045368#msg1045368 date=1264760348]
The chance of Babel playing on behalf of Maxi equals zero.
Personally I'd keep Insua at LB as he has been decent of late, otherwise you're probably spot on. (If Agger still isn't fit that is).
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Im miles off with my selection. Rafa will go with Lucas, Insua and Maxi for starters and i don't think im going to give up my Saturday afternoon to watch us look laboured and lacking in inspiration. Think ill head to the races instead.
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I'm rather confident we won't see Lucas start.
.....................Masher.......................
......Gerrard................Aquilani.........
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38673.msg1045368#msg1045368 date=1264760348]
The chance of Babel playing on behalf of Maxi equals zero.
Personally I'd keep Insua at LB as he has been decent of late, otherwise you're probably spot on. (If Agger still isn't fit that is).
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Im miles off with my selection. Rafa will go with Lucas, Insua and Maxi for starters and i don't think im going to give up my Saturday afternoon to watch us look laboured and lacking in inspiration. Think ill head to the races instead.
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I'm rather confident we won't see Lucas start.
.....................Masher.......................
......Gerrard................Aquilani.........
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Squiggles
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The 4-2-3-1 formation worked because of Xabi Alonso. His accurate and quick passing allowed the ball to be spread quickly to the players ahead of him, giving them a head start on the opposition. Bentez recognised this when he alluded that Aquilano would play "between Gerrard and Mascherano" - a slight tweek maybe, but nonetheless an acceptance that the 4-2-3-1 was meant to be dead.
Since then caution has took over, of course, and we're persisting with Lucas in that role, and it so obviously isn't working.
Since then caution has took over, of course, and we're persisting with Lucas in that role, and it so obviously isn't working.
Any team news yet?
Is this the OFFICIAL match thread SG? I think it should be.
Let's see stu, I'm sure someone will get over excited and start a new one for no reason.
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the_khl
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Someone better make this the official match thread and do so quick, otherwise some dimwit will start a new one and people on here will feel equally confused and sad.
Yes, that dimwit will be me. I'm not affraid.
Yes, that dimwit will be me. I'm not affraid.
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the_khl
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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38673.msg1046016#msg1046016 date=1264856278]
Let's see stu, I'm sure someone will get over excited and start a new one for no reason.
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It's all in your own hands. You can do it.
CHANGE THE TITLE!
EDIT Oops it' Mark's thread. Where's the silly bugger when you need him?
Let's see stu, I'm sure someone will get over excited and start a new one for no reason.
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It's all in your own hands. You can do it.
CHANGE THE TITLE!
EDIT Oops it' Mark's thread. Where's the silly bugger when you need him?
i'd love him to play
-----------------reina-----------------
----degen-----carra----skrtel--------aurelio
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babel------------gerrard-----------------riera
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-----------------kuyt-----------------------
wouldn't happen in a million years mind.
-----------------reina-----------------
----degen-----carra----skrtel--------aurelio
---------------masch===--------
babel------------gerrard-----------------riera
----------------------aqualami-------------
-----------------kuyt-----------------------
wouldn't happen in a million years mind.
It's amazing how much better Babel gets in people's imaginations when he hasn't played for a while.
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