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Bolton - Liverpool **MATCH THREAD**

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Hansern

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Unconfirmed early team news whispers suggest Rafa may go for a change against the Trotters today, playing an unfamiliar 4-3-3 formation. Sotirios will start as does everyone’s favourite Voronin. The captain is also set for a deeper role today.

Found this on another website, don't know how true it is, but it will be interesting to see how we line up.
 
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=35532.msg934358#msg934358 date=1251537179]
Unconfirmed early team news whispers suggest Rafa may go for a change against the Trotters today, playing an unfamiliar 4-3-3 formation. Sotirios will start as does everyone’s favourite Voronin. The captain is also set for a deeper role today.

Found this on another website, don't know how true it is, but it will be interesting to see how we line up.
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Oh great.......just what we need after start we had. Why cant we play exacly the same as the other night with Rafa beating the team out the dressing room door telling them to fucking play like fucking worthy league winners. I know its Bolton....but if he's fucking around with formations already...were fucked.
 
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If Voronin's dumped as a wide forward in a 433 we'll get laughed at

Even by fucking Bolton.
 
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I hope it's this:

---------------------Reina-----------------
--Johnson----Carra---Ayala/Skrtel--Insua
--Yossi------Gerrard---Masher-------Riera
----------------Kuyt-----Torres-------------
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35532.msg934368#msg934368 date=1251538189]
If Voronin's dumped as a wide forward in a 433 we'll get laughed at

Even by fucking Bolton.
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hmmm... it smacks of that disaster lineup against Reading a few years back.
 
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I hope Rafa still isn't caught up over his first game away at Bolton, he seems to always concentrate on stopping them rather than just beating them.
 
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---------------------Reina-----------------
--Johnson----Carra---Zorba--Insua
----Gerrard---Masher-------Riera
-------Kuyt-----Torres----Babel---------

if nothing else its attacking........
 
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35532.msg934391#msg934391 date=1251540657]
Lucas will play again
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To be fair to him he probably deserves to, as he has been one of the better players over the three games so far.
 
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=35532.msg934358#msg934358 date=1251537179]
Unconfirmed early team news whispers suggest Rafa may go for a change against the Trotters today, playing an unfamiliar 4-3-3 formation. Sotirios will start as does everyone’s favourite Voronin. The captain is also set for a deeper role today.

Found this on another website, don't know how true it is, but it will be interesting to see how we line up.
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If that's the case, I assume the team would look like this:

Reina

Magic - Carra - Zorba - Insua

Gerrard - Mascherano

Kuyt - Voronin - Yossi

Torres


which wouldn't be too bad. If it's genuinely a 433, with Voronin and Kuyt either side of Torres, and Lucas with Gerrard and Mascher in CM, then I'd be worried. Where's the width? Where's the creativity?
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35532.msg934386#msg934386 date=1251539820]
I hope Rafa still isn't caught up over his first game away at Bolton, he seems to always concentrate on stopping them rather than just beating them.
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I thought we thoroughly smashed them last year and that idea was put to bed?
 
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[quote author=Paddy link=topic=35532.msg934404#msg934404 date=1251542956]
This is going to be a torturous game.
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It is already.
 
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Yeah, I think we'll be alright.

Bolton don't have much to offer. Even if we're not at our best we should win this by two goals or more.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35532.msg934406#msg934406 date=1251543282]
Yeah, I think we'll be alright.

Bolton don't have much to offer. Even if we're not at our best we should win this by two goals or more.
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Ditto... Bolton are absolute muck
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35532.msg934406#msg934406 date=1251543282]
Yeah, I think we'll be alright.

Bolton don't have much to offer. Even if we're not at our best we should win this by two goals or more.
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But we look so nervous at set-pieces, and Zorba making his debut may hinder us more than it helps. I have a horrible feeling they'll score a couple of goals against us. Torres and Gerrard to wake the fuck up and be our 'get out of jail free' card.
 
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35532.msg934417#msg934417 date=1251544772]
Zorba ?
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Didn't you get the memo?
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35532.msg934419#msg934419 date=1251544983]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35532.msg934417#msg934417 date=1251544772]
Zorba ?
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Didn't you get the memo?

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Obviously not
 
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vermin has done nothing to merit a start and after costing us the villa game lucas shouldn't even be in the squad.

as for 433 you need 3 strikers for that and i can't see rafa either being so bold nor playing kuyt torres babel as a trio.

i'm more interested to see if riera starts.
 
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[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=35532.msg934367#msg934367 date=1251537928]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=35532.msg934358#msg934358 date=1251537179]
Unconfirmed early team news whispers suggest Rafa may go for a change against the Trotters today, playing an unfamiliar 4-3-3 formation. Sotirios will start as does everyone’s favourite Voronin. The captain is also set for a deeper role today.

Found this on another website, don't know how true it is, but it will be interesting to see how we line up.
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Oh great.......just what we need after start we had. Why cant we play exacly the same as the other night with Rafa beating the team out the dressing room door telling them to fucking play like fucking worthy league winners. I know its Bolton....but if he's fucking around with formations already...were fucked.
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We can't keep playing with Lucas as our central playmaker. He can't make the play.

Dropping Gerrard back, at least until Aquilani is fit, is exactly what is necessary as far as I'm concerned.
 
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i don't give a fuck about his decisions anymore thats his problem. all i want to see today 3pts and then him and poor the lucas to fuck off and stay out of my face for the next week
 
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[quote author=rage link=topic=35532.msg934422#msg934422 date=1251545441]
vermin has done nothing to merit a start and after costing us the villa game lucas shouldn't even be in the squad.

as for 433 you need 3 strikers for that and i can't see rafa either being so bold nor playing kuyt torres babel as a trio.

i'm more interested to see if riera starts.
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Ditto Gerrard then eh, for giving away a shocking pen straight after we'd just got back in the game?

Twat.
 
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God knows Im no Lucas fan, but Gerrard was just as much to blame for defeat against Villa as Lucas.
 
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=35532.msg934434#msg934434 date=1251546594]
[quote author=rage link=topic=35532.msg934422#msg934422 date=1251545441]
vermin has done nothing to merit a start and after costing us the villa game lucas shouldn't even be in the squad.

as for 433 you need 3 strikers for that and i can't see rafa either being so bold nor playing kuyt torres babel as a trio.

i'm more interested to see if riera starts.
[/quote]

Ditto Gerrard then eh, for giving away a shocking pen straight after we'd just got back in the game?

Twat.



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Why do you all bite? Rage is quite obviously putting on an act just to wind people up.
 
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Journalist: You've got a very strong bunch of individuals. Are they collectively in the right mindset after suffering two defeats in three games in the Premier League?

I think the team want to show we are good enough. We have more or less the same squad that got 86 points last season, so the players know they can play better. They know we can do things in different ways. We will try, but you never know in football. Bolton will be very difficult, but I can guarantee the players will be working hard and trying to win from the very first minute.

Journalist: Speaking to Bolton manager Gary Megson this week, he feels the criticism you and the club have received has been unjust and undeserved. Do you feel Liverpool are an easy target?

We are a top side and we went so close last season that maybe some people were expecting us to win a lot of games in a row, but the Premier League is very difficult. Again, we can talk about pre-season and a lot of players returning late, but we know we have to improve. The main thing for me now is to forget the mistakes as soon as possible and try to change, improve and play at the same level we did last season.

Journalist: Yossi Benayoun said after the last match the players are not used to losing two games in the space of a short time. Is this a period your players can use a character building exercise?

Our message has been the same last year and this year: we have to approach every game like it is the last one. We have to try and get three points in every single game and that's it. We can't see the table or be analysing games every time. We have lost two games and we are really disappointed, but now we have an opportunity to change things by winning against Bolton.

Journalist: The two games you did lose were to Tottenham and Aston Villa. They're going to take more points off the top sides this season, so things could equal out couldn't they?

Yes, I think so. I think this season Man City, Aston Villa and Tottenham will be very close. That means you can lose against anyone. These teams are good teams and I am sure that means it will be more difficult for the top sides to win every single game.

Journalist: After the defeat to Villa, a journalist asked you if you felt other teams had worked out your system now. You were quite robust in your answer and said the 86 points you picked up last season proved otherwise. You seem very confident you have a system that can do well...

4-4-2 is the most used system in England and 80 per cent of teams use this formation, so they know each other. Why is it different for us? Everyone knows the systems of the other teams, but especially 4-4-2. It is the most common formation in England. So if everybody knows this, why don't they beat each other every time? In football, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but it is not dependant on the system – it is down to the players.

Journalist: So it's about the players and their performance?

Yes. You can play 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2, but if you have good players on the pitch playing well it will be easier. Again I will say, if teams know our tactics, why don't they know the tactics of the teams that have played 4-4-2 for years? Everybody knows the systems, it is a question of how to manage the players on the pitch.

Journalist: People have also questioned the strength of the Liverpool squad...

It is correct we had some young players on the bench the other night, but Fabio Aurelio is a senior player who is injured, Agger is injured and we have Aquilani to come back. That is three players and if we put them on the bench people will say we have a good squad. It is a question of trying to keep everyone fit and ready. The young players will also have more experience after this year, so if everyone works together we will have a very good squad.

Journalist: Looking at the start to the season you've had, you've played a couple of tough teams and when you've had a spell like that you don't want to be going to the Reebok Stadium to face Bolton...

We know Bolton will be difficult. They are a physical team and they need to win, so it will be a tough, tough game. But the commitment of the players is good, and our training sessions have been really good, and we have to start winning games. Bolton are next up and we will try to do our job.

Journalist: You beat Bolton twice last season and your record against them in the Premier League is very good, so you can go there with confidence...

Every year is different, but at least we know we can do it, so that is positive. Every year you change players and the situation, so it will be different, but we are confident we can do it.

Journalist: Can you take any positives from your situation? As a manager, do you thrive on what you've got to achieve now?

I think in this situation you have to be calm and analyse things properly because every manager is under pressure from the beginning - the TV were asking me about Gary Megson being under pressure. Every single manager is under pressure if you lose one game. You have to look at the bigger picture. Okay, we have lost two games and people were expecting us to win three in a row. We can manage this by trying to be calm.
 
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